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Old 12-08-2011, 11:03 AM   #481
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I did want Albert to leave. It's not that I hate the Cards. I like them just fine. It just makes for a much more interesting 2012 season with free agents on a different team. But, the Angels? I am kinda worried about them because they cream the Yankees every time. This might have been the straw that's gonna make either Texas or Seattle spend the money on Fielder. I wonder though if the Cardinals will put Berkman at first now. He had a extremely good 2011.
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And CJ Wilson has signed with the Angels too.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:07 AM   #484
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And CJ Wilson has signed with the Angels too.
Where did you read this? I just checked MLB.com no more then 10 seconds ago and I didn't read anything about that. Does anyone have a link to that?
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:08 AM   #485
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Shit, CJ on the Angels has a #2 behind Weaver is a strong 1-2. That's why I was hoping Cashman would go after him.
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Joel Sherman broke the C.J. Wilson news.

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I wonder how Angel fans feel now about signing a 45 year old for a 10 year contract.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:11 AM   #488
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MSN Sports and MLB Trade Rumors. Wilson took one less year to play for his home town.

That being said, Angels better win a World Series soon before these contracts come back to bite them in the ass.
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I wonder how Angel fans feel now about signing a 45 year old for a 10 year contract.
Where did you get 45 from? He's like 31 which means he will be like 42 or 43 when his contract is up.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:14 AM   #490
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Where did you get 45 from? He's like 31 which means he will be like 42 or 43 when his contract is up.
You missed the whole part of people questioning his age.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:15 AM   #491
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I did want Albert to leave. It's not that I hate the Cards. I like them just fine. It just makes for a much more interesting 2012 season with free agents on a different team. But, the Angels? I am kinda worried about them because they cream the Yankees every time. This might have been the straw that's gonna make either Texas or Seattle spend the money on Fielder. I wonder though if the Cardinals will put Berkman at first now. He had a extremely good 2011.
I think they would put Big Puma at 1B. He's played the position before so I don't see why it'd be an issue.
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Old 12-08-2011, 11:19 AM   #492
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I think the only reason people question Pujols' age is because he was just freakishly good at such a young age.
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Joel Sherman broke the C.J. Wilson news.

http://twitter.com/#!/Joelsherman1/s...07265420066816
For whatever reason there's a reporter on Twitter who constantly breaks news hours/days/weeks before anyone else and never gets any credit. Broke the Reyes signing in November and said they were just holding off on announcing it. And as far as the Wilson news...

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Old 12-08-2011, 11:32 AM   #494
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C.J. Wilson gets 5 years, 77.5 million.
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I really thought that Hank Steinbrenner was the only person stupid enough to give a 32 year old a 10 year contract.
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Cardinals fans can be disappointed but they shouldn't be angry like that forum guy. This is nowhere near as bad as LeBron. The guy won you two World Series and gave ten of the best years ever in baseball. I'll never fault a guy for taking the most money.
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I bet the Cubs fleece the Rangers for there top prospects for Garza now.
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The period that was the calm at the beginning of the GM meetings is now being replaced by the storm. Really wonder what shoe is going to drop next...where do you guys think Fielder is going to end up....putting my money on the Cubs or Rangers
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ESPN probably now will push Angels-Marlins as their "dream" World Series match for next year.

The bigger news for the Angels is with Pujols, they can now take over the LA market from the Dodgers which is something they've wanted ever since moving near LA.

at that Card fan message post just trashing Pujols even though he helped a lot in giving that team 2 titles and 3 WS appearances in the time he was with the club. I could see if he left for a rival for people to be angry but he left out of the NL which ends up being good for the Cardinals.

at the Astros, they leave the NL Central for the AL West and now have to deal with Pujols again.
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K-Rod is the biggest loser this offseason. He gladly took away his massive 2012 vesting option so that he could cash in as a free agent and go back to being a closer. Instead, he had to accept arbitration and will be back with the Brewers as a set up man.

Sucks for the Brewers too because now they have to pay him around $13 million.
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Well my internet is back up and running. That storm we had in the northeast had some heavy winds in it and partially knocked out my cable for most of the day.

Anyway. Pretty crazy what the Angels did today. They did in 2 days what the Cardinals couldn't do in roughly 2 years. C.J. Should have taken what he might have gotten from the Nats. But I think Buehrle signing first cost him some $.

Anyway, the other big story of the day is that Yu Darvish got posted today. That auction runs until December 14.
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Weaver, Herin, Irvin Santana, and CJ Wilson

I'm gonna say it for them. DREAM TEAM.
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I was a little "weirded out" when the Cubs signed David DeJesus, I'll admit. I didn't like it.

Now, seeing that they have traded for 3B Ian Stewart, I'm really liking both deals, having DeJesus and Stewart.

I'm really digging the two moves. I feel good about 'em.
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Anyway. Pretty crazy what the Angels did today. They did in 2 days what the Cardinals couldn't do in roughly 2 years. C.J. Should have taken what he might have gotten from the Nats. But I think Buehrle signing first cost him some $.

Anyway, the other big story of the day is that Yu Darvish got posted today. That auction runs until December 14.
If the Jays don't outbid everybody I'll be pissed.
 
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Vernon Wells should benefit greatly from hitting in front of Pujols. Maybe now he'll start to live up to his big contract.
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Rays sign Matt Moore to a 5-year, $14 million deal with options that can make it an 8 year deal.

Incredible deal for the Rays. If Moore pans out he will be kicking himself in 3 years.
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When is Albert Pujols' press conference?

That's what I wanna know.
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For whatever reason there's a reporter on Twitter who constantly breaks news hours/days/weeks before anyone else and never gets any credit. Broke the Reyes signing in November and said they were just holding off on announcing it. And as far as the Wilson news...



No point linking to it as he's made his tweets private recently. If you have Twitter he's def worth a follow. Dude is on his shit and covers NFL, MLB and NHL
Who gives a shit? It's stupid enough that people follow the offseason so closely, saying things like they feel "euphoric" when their team signs a big free agent. Now you're interested in who breaks news first. Give me a break.
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Can we have an MLB Fantasy Offseason thread where we all pick which players go to which teams and draft reporters and get more points based on which reporter breaks the best news
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Dbacks get Trevor Cahill. With Kennedy, Hudson, and Cahill, AZ has a sick big 3.
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They should give 'em some antibiotics.
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Evening round up:

Yankees make it official today and bring back Steady Freddy Garcia. 1-year, $4 mil. with $1.575 mil. in incentives on games started.

Notables who went under the radar during all the madness during the week: Erik Bedard and Nate McLouth to the Pirates, Lyle Overbay to the D-Backs.

Should be a quiet few days up until Wednesday afternoon when the Yu Darvish bidding ends at 4:00 pm eastern.
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National League MVP Ryan Braun, who last season led the Milwaukee Brewers to their first division title in nearly three decades, has tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug and faces a 50-game suspension if the initial finding is upheld, two sources familiar with the case told "Outside the Lines."
Major League Baseball has not announced the positive test because Braun is disputing the result through arbitration.
A spokesman for Braun issued a statement Saturday: "There are highly unusual circumstances surrounding this case which will support Ryan's complete innocence and demonstrate there was absolutely no intentional violation of the program. While Ryan has impeccable character and no previous history, unfortunately, because of the process we have to maintain confidentiality and are not able to discuss it any further, but we are confident he will ultimately be exonerated."
The 28-year-old Braun had to provide a urine sample for testing during the playoffs, and he was notified of the positive test sometime in late October -- about a month before he was named the National League's most valuable player.
The positive result was triggered by elevated levels of testosterone in Braun's system, the sources also told "Outside the Lines." A subsequent, more comprehensive test revealed the testosterone was synthetic -- not produced by Braun's body.
Every individual naturally produces testosterone and a substance called epitestosterone, typically at a ratio of 1-to-1. In Major League Baseball, if the ratio comes in at 4-to-1 or higher during testing, a player is deemed to have tested positive. The sources did not indicate how high above the threshold Braun's sample tested.

AP Photo/Jeff RobersonMilwaukee Brewers' Ryan Braun carried the team to its first division title in nearly three decades last season, leading the league in slugging percentage at .597, with a .332 batting average, 33 home runs and 111 runs batted in.


To affirm the results and strengthen its case, MLB asked the World Anti-Doping Agency lab in Montreal, which conducts its testing, to perform a secondary test to determine whether the testosterone spike resulted from natural variations within Braun's body or from an artificial source. The test indicated the testosterone was exogenous, meaning it came from outside his body.
Brewers spokesman Tyler Barnes said Saturday that the team had not been contacted by the commissioner's office and the team had no knowledge of a failed test. Messages left for MLB officials were not returned. Greg Bouris, spokesman for the Major League Baseball Players Association, declined comment.
Since being informed of the results, Braun has been disputing his case. The outfielder has told those around him that he did not knowingly take any banned substances and hoped to prove that during the arbitration process, said one of the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case. No major league player has ever successfully appealed a positive test.
MLB's Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Policy calls for strict liability among players, meaning if a player tests positive, the league is "not required to otherwise establish intent, fault, negligence or knowing use of a Prohibited Substance on the Player's part to establish such a violation."
Even if a player can establish he did not knowingly take a banned substance, he must show he was not in any way negligent to appeal successfully. For example, taking a dietary supplement that contains an unlabeled performance-enhancing drug would not be sufficient grounds for appeal, but if he were to show that he ingested something that was either tampered with or no player reasonably could have assumed to have been contaminated, the appeal might succeed.
Once criticized for protecting its biggest stars from scandal, the league is now faced with the possibility of suspending one of the game's best and most-admired players.
Braun had never been linked to PEDs previously; in fact, at the 2009 All-Star Game in St. Louis, when commissioner Bud Selig addressed efforts by Albert Pujols to tamp down questions about steroid use, he invoked Braun as a shining example of the sport's tough testing policy.
"Albert Pujols is absolutely right. He has been tested since he started playing," Selig said. "So has Ryan Howard. So has Ryan Braun, Ryan Zimmerman. Since they were in the minors."
About a month before that, Selig was quoted in The Arizona Republic as saying, "Our minor league testing program is in its ninth year, and that means all the great young players in baseball, from Ryan Howard to Ryan Braun, have all been tested for nine years. There's a system in place, and it's working. We know we have the toughest testing program in major league sports."
Earlier that spring, after Alex Rodriguez was exposed for using steroids, Braun spoke to MLB.com about the "mistakes" made by the superstar. Braun said he met Rodriguez in 2001 during a recruiting trip to the University of Miami.
Asked if he were surprised that Rodriguez had been exposed as a steroid user, Braun was quoted saying, "I don't know if I would say I was surprised. I feel like it was so rampant, so prevalent, in baseball during that time period that not much surprises me anymore. If anything, I was surprised he got caught, that it came out this long after he supposedly did it."
On whether he had ever been tempted to try performance-enhancing drugs, Braun said, "It's never something that I sought."
MLB.com wrote that Braun then showed "a flash of his sense of humor and his well-documented self-confidence" by adding, "I would never do it because if I took steroids, I would hit 60 or 70 home runs."
Braun was speaking to the website prior to the news conference at which Rodriguez admitted his use.
"... The best thing he can do is come out, admit to everything and be completely honest," Braun said. "The situation will die a lot faster if he tells the whole truth."
Since breaking into the majors in 2007 at 23, Braun has emerged as one of the sport's top young players. He won the NL Rookie of the Year in 2007 and was an All-Star each of the past four seasons.
In his rookie season, Braun hit 34 homers and drove in 97 runs, while amassing a .634 slugging percentage in just 113 games. He had 37 home runs and 106 RBI the following year, then saw his power numbers decline modestly over the next two seasons. He still hit 25 home run runs and had a .501 slugging percentage in 2010.
In April, Braun signed a five-year contract extension worth $105 million. He then went out and had his best season ever, carrying the Brewers to their first division title in nearly three decades. He led the league in slugging percentage at .597, with a .332 batting average, 33 home runs, 111 runs batted in, 109 runs scored and 33 stolen bases.
Braun turned 28 on Nov. 17 and five days later was named the NL MVP. Now, though, he's looking at a 50-game suspension to open the 2012 season, and, of course, all sorts of questions about what role steroids have played in his success.
Mark Fainaru-Wada and T.J. Quinn are investigative reporters with ESPN's enterprise unit. Fainaru-Wada can be reached at markfwespn@gmail.com. Quinn can be reached at tjquinn31@yahoo.com.
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