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Old 05-08-2016, 07:37 AM   #241
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Somebody pick up the phone

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Random speculation from myself about that plot.

Captain America and Tony Stark aren't fighting each other because of the super hero registration act... They are fighting each other because Stark wants to kill The Winter Solider because the Winter Solider killed his Father, and Captain America obviously does not want Stark to kill the Winter Solider.


I think I'm on the money with this one.
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Because I fuckin called it.
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Old 05-08-2016, 07:41 AM   #242
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Also I'm going to make an empathetic statement...

I think Zemo is the one the best marvel movie villian yet. Loved how you thought it was like a world domination plot like any other movie, but then nope he was just normal dude who wanted revenge.

Great idea, and I think he's better then the real Zemo.
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Old 05-08-2016, 11:20 AM   #243
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Because I fuckin called it.
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Also I'm going to make an empathetic statement...

I think Zemo is the one the best marvel movie villian yet. Loved how you thought it was like a world domination plot like any other movie, but then nope he was just normal dude who wanted revenge.

Great idea, and I think he's better then the real Zemo.
i really agree. Nemo was very human. I felt like this whole movie, while very dark (despite on all audience tone,) told the most personal stories we've seen out of any superhero movie to date.
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Old 05-08-2016, 04:14 PM   #244
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......McLegend you are a dumb fuck. Everyone fucking called that when Winter Soldier came out and Hydra was revealed to be inside of SHIELD
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Old 05-08-2016, 04:20 PM   #245
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Also, they ARE fighting eachother because of the Registration Act or Sokovia Accords if you will.

And the fact Bucky killed Tony's parents was not only in the comic books (some versions at least) but it was like one the very first spoilers about this movie.
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......McLegend you are a dumb fuck. Everyone fucking called that when Winter Soldier came out and Hydra was revealed to be inside of SHIELD
No one called in the thread.

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Saw this last night. No need to restate everything's that's been said from a narrative and characterization standpoint. Had a blast watching and am glad I didn't wait to see it.

Black Panther and Spider-Man stole the show for me.

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I guess I'm the only guy not "going crazy" over Spider-Man.... Feel like he has "potential", but just based on this movie he isn't better than the other two there have been. I don't actually know if people are saying he is better, but they are saying he was "great" and stuff, to which I am like "he was alright".
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I guess I'm the only guy not "going crazy" over Spider-Man.... Feel like he has "potential", but just based on this movie he isn't better than the other two there have been. I don't actually know if people are saying he is better, but they are saying he was "great" and stuff, to which I am like "he was alright".
Yes, people ARE saying that he is better than the other two and I agree.

Mind you, I haven't seen the movie yet, only parts. Not only is the suit awesome, he really IS Peter Parker, a dorky teenager making quips in the middle of fights and being starstruck seeing all the superheroes and whatnot. Just being a teenager.

The other two, well, their jokes felt really forced, they spent way too much time being overdramatic and didn't feel like Parker at all.
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Old 05-09-2016, 06:04 PM   #252
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Old 05-09-2016, 06:17 PM   #253
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I wouldn't say best Spider-Man yet because we haven't actually seen him in a full movie. In terms of what he contributed to the film though, I found him to be great.

Also, Marissa Tomei is so pretty.
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I get they're wanna do something new, but I still find this really weird.
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Yes, people ARE saying that he is better than the other two and I agree.

Mind you, I haven't seen the movie yet, only parts. Not only is the suit awesome, he really IS Peter Parker, a dorky teenager making quips in the middle of fights and being starstruck seeing all the superheroes and whatnot. Just being a teenager.

The other two, well, their jokes felt really forced, they spent way too much time being overdramatic and didn't feel like Parker at all.
So this. He seemed like a real dorky teenager with super powers.
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Any real dorky teenager wouldn't talk about Empire Strikes Back like he did!

By the way, about that, was it just my imagination or did they "sample" a bit of Star Wars music when Spidey was roping up Giant Man's legs?
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I get they're wanna do something new, but I still find this really weird.
Honestly, it's much stranger for a kid that young to have a 90 year old aunt.
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Yeah.... Unless Peter's Dad and Ben Parker were like 20 years apart in age....
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Honestly, it's much stranger for a kid that young to have a 90 year old aunt.
True, but that's how she was always pictured. And I remember there was some explanation about the age difference between Ben and Richard Parkers but I don't remember what it was.
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I wouldn't say best Spider-Man yet because we haven't actually seen him in a full movie. In terms of what he contributed to the film though, I found him to be great.

Also, Marissa Tomei is so pretty.
Nah a full full only reflects the writing.

The 35 min or so of screen time he has had is more than enough to know what he is bringing to the role.
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Spidey was perfect, imo. My fave version is the Josh Keaton Spectacular Spidey which in turn echoed Ultimate Spidey (comic) so seeing a kid be Spider-Man was a long time coming for me.
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I would't mind seeing a grown-up Peter some day, maybe in ten years time or whatever if they need to reboot again, or maybe as Tom Holland just gets older himself. Whilst this Peter (which was spot-on btw), is most definitely "a kid", McGuire and Garfield were still portraying a young Peter themselves.

In Civil War (the comics) Peter is definitely a grown-up. Not sure if there is an official indication of Peters age in the comics floating around, but he's gotta be at least late 20's early 30's right? It'd be kinda interesting to see that portrayed on the big screen some day.
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Yeah.... Unless Peter's Dad and Ben Parker were like 20 years apart in age....
I couldn't care less. As a matter of fact, it's about time we had a hot Aunt May
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Yeah! I want a dark Aunt May movie. Set after the death of Uncle Ben.
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Saw this earlier today. I liked it, and again this sets up a lot of future movies.
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He's graduated college and has his own company so at this point I've always assumed him to be in his late twenties or early thirties at the least.
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I love how previous films were major motivators for tony and caps stance on the zakovia act. Tony's guilt over the destruction caused by his creations, and caps mistrust of the government after hydra hijacked everything are much better reasons than "I can see into the future because I'm so smart!" and "No, but FREEDOM, tho."
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Torn on it... I knew going in that there was no way they were going to follow the massive storyline. However I wish that the speedball fight that started it all was in the movie. I liked that it was action from beginning to end and the black panther was well done. Some key comic book parts of the story were missing. (Thor killing giant man) but with the allowed time, I would have named it something else. Good movie can't wait for part two.
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Really hate the "they deviated from the comic book" criticism. It's a different story, in a different "world".
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I never have a problem with films deviating from the comic books but it is cool when they throw in scenes directly from comic books. Dawn of Justice was full of them.
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Really hate the "they deviated from the comic book" criticism. It's a different story, in a different "world".
Right, which is why the TV/Film entries are called the Marvel Cinematic Universe, just as different as 616 and 1610.
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Torn on it... I knew going in that there was no way they were going to follow the massive storyline. However I wish that the speedball fight that started it all was in the movie. I liked that it was action from beginning to end and the black panther was well done. Some key comic book parts of the story were missing. (Thor killing giant man) but with the allowed time, I would have named it something else. Good movie can't wait for part two.
I'm sorry, but I think your expectations of staying true to the source is way too high. To the the point where the film would suffer if they actually did.

The new warriors incident worked for the comics, in that world of thousands of superhumans and decades of history. In the MCU, with it's tightly woven overarching plot, it makes much more sense to directly involve the avengers' actions as the reason for the reg act. It's the same reason they made stark create ultron instead of introducing hank pym.

They're condensing decades of marvel history within this much smaller universe. To make it work smoothly, sacrifices will need to be made in some of the adaptations.

And no, they shouldn't have called it something else, because no matter what else happened in civil war, the main driving plot was the war of ideologies between cap and tony, and as I stated above, I think the movie actually did it better than the comic.
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I never have a problem with films deviating from the comic books but it is cool when they throw in scenes directly from comic books. Dawn of Justice was full of them.
Marked out super hard for the "No. You move." speech getting in.
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I thoug that movie was actually better then the comic.

Only things I wanted in the movie that were in the book was...

1)Captain America fighting dirty (maybe we got that in the movie? Maybe)
2) Captain America's line "Winning everything, but the arguement."

Other then that everything in the movie was better then the book.
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Yeah, Ragnarok killed Goliath. Really glad that part wasn't in the movie as it would have been to much. Really no need for the New Warriors or other character from the comics. Could have had War Machine die to mimick that scene but I think it was alright. Just wish Crossbones wouldn't have died so early.
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Finally got round to seeing this, really enjoyed it. I'm liking how Spider-man was portrayed as the wise cracking kid that he is, his interactions with Stark were great and makes me more inclined to go see Homecoming when it comes out.

Didn't know a huge amount about Black Panther before so this was a decent introduction to him and his background. Again, how he came across here makes me want to see his solo movie when that's released.

LOVED the airport battle, I haven't seen Ant-Man yet so was really shocked when he went giant (not sure if he does it in his film), so that was a cool moment for me.
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