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Former 3-time Heavyweight Champion and current United States Champion "The Celtic Warrior" - Sheamus 1 1.96%
Former United States Champion "The King of Swing" - Cesaro 3 5.88%
Former 4-time Heavyweight Champion "The Mexican Aristocrat" - Alberto Del Rio 1 1.96%
Former WWE Tag Team Champion - Roman Reigns 10 19.61%
Former 14-time Heavyweight Champion - John Cena 25 49.02%
Former 12-time Heavyweight Champion "The Viper" - Randy Orton 7 13.73%
Former member of The New Nexus and the leader of the Wyatt Family - Bray Wyatt 4 7.84%
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:01 PM   #41
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Well Kurt Angle won the Olympics with a BROKEN FREAKING NECK so Bryan is a total poon.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:05 PM   #42
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I'd hope that Bryan doesn't end up crazy and delusional like Angle, Either.
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Well Kurt Angle won the Olympics with a BROKEN FREAKING NECK so Bryan is a total poon.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:46 AM   #44
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I'm hoping for something crazy like Dean Ambrose winning the briefcase, Reigns winning the title, and Ambrose immediately cashing it in and stealing it from him.

I mean, if they're going to do basically nothing with the Shield breaking up, they may as well.

In reality, I imagine it'll be Cena or Orton.
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I will be bummed if they give it to Cena. Not saying he doesn't deserve it since it has been awhile since he held the title but it is too obvious of a choice.
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Eh. I don't think obvious is bad when it comes to who holds the title. The obvious choice is usually the top guy. And the top guy should have the title. Makes it matter.
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I think what most are after is that obvious is bad because it takes the "wow" factor out of the end result.

Here's hoping that most of us are wrong and we get some sorta SWEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRVE.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:58 AM   #48
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That said, the comment isn't meant to take anything away from what should be a very entertaining match. Just that when Cena is in the picture, usually Cena wins and bleh.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:12 PM   #49
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There's a lot of interesting things they can set up from this match. None of them come from Cena winning.
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Hey, if Cena wins and drops the title to Bray I'll consider it a win.
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:46 PM   #51
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Eh...I'll bet even Cena doesn't want and/or think he needs a 15th title run.
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I had a huge thing typed up and it got deleted. Probably a relief to most of you. Basically, the only guys that really wouldn't make sense to give the big win to are Sheamus and Del Rio. It's not that they have no chance, but the other options are just far more compelling (yes, even Orton winning).

My heart would love to see it go to Cesaro, and I'd mark out if he did win the match, but I just can't see it happening. It wouldn't be the most shocking thing ever though. I see Reigns looking like the "true" winner of the match, only to be screwed out of it by Triple H. In the wake of that chaos, Orton ascends the ladder, but he is foiled by Cena, who battles him on the ladder and knocks him off. We get a moment where it looks very likely that Cena is going to be the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion. Suddenly, Cesaro springboards onto the ladder and uppercuts Cena off it. In my perfect world, Cesaro would then grab down the belts in a "Holy shit! He actually did it!" moment. Cena would then chase Cesaro heading into Battleground, Orton would battle Reigns, Wyatt would face Sheamus and Ambrose would face Rollins. But I see Wyatt dumping Cesaro off the ladder, pulling down the titles and achieving his absolution and becoming the "sure thing" that many think he is.
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Just that when Cena is in the picture, usually Cena wins and bleh.
The "Ugh, Cena wins" thing has been shown plenty of times to be untrue and a ridiculous thing for people to complain about. The guy loses more than any #1 face in the history of wrestling and people bitch like he's undefeated over the past 10 + years.

Even if he did actually win as much as people wanna believe, the top face should be nearly unbeatable to justify his spot in kayfabe and make it a huge deal when he does lose. He doesn't though. There's NO credibility to the "Ugh, Cena ALWAYS wins" complaint.
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Cena winning this match wouldn't even be a bad thing.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:23 AM   #55
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It isn't about how many wins/losses, just that most people want to see someone else in that spot. Sometimes that can be a good thing, other times not so much. I don't mind Cena too much, just ready to see some new talent. Love the fact that Bray has been catapulted to the top in his feud with Cena. Would like to see Cena used in that regard moving forward.
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Cena winning this match wouldn't even be a bad thing.
I am torn here. I understand they need to "play it safe" or whatever you wanna call it, and he is the safe bet. At the same time, there are many other great talents in the match that could use the rub. Not saying that they have to win to get the rub, a good talent will get the other talents "over" without having to win. More so than anything, I am just bored with Cena.
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I agree with you there. Cena winning wouldn't be bad, but I'm not sure if it would be the best option. A WWE.com poll asked who people most want to see clash with Brock Lesnar, and Roman Reigns was winning with like 50% of the vote. People are oozing for that match. Pull the trigger, make money now. Give Reigns the epic moment of winning the titles.

Reigns goes on to face Randy Orton at Battleground. Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins can have a one-on-one match that provides us with that "great match." Coming out of Money in the Bank, Cena and Cesaro can still have issues without the title involved. Those two would have another great match at Money in the Bank (and think about how fresh Cena interacting with Paul Heyman would actually be). Sheamus and Bray Wyatt can extend their current rivalry into a bout for the United States Championship, even if it seems a step below Wyatt at this point in time. Maybe Wyatt can win the title and destroy it? That could be a way to retire one of the secondary titles and give Sheamus a reason to want to kick Wyatt's head off in some sort of violent gimmick match at SummerSlam. The Usos and The Family can have another clash, perhaps in a Ladder Match (despite Money in the Bank featuring two), which would allow the styles of Jimmy, Jey and Luke Harper to really shine.

For SummerSlam, you have Paul Heyman approach Triple H about taking care of Roman Reigns by sending Brock Lesnar after him. Cesaro is also charged with keeping down the returning Daniel Bryan. John Cena has an awkward teaming with Dean Ambrose heading into a tag team clash with Randy Orton & Seth Rollins. Then there's aforementioned gimmick match between Bray Wyatt and Sheamus.

Reigns then either faces Triple H or Cesaro at Night of Champions, with Daniel Bryan possibly facing either Triple H (if Cesaro gets the nod) or Bray Wyatt (if Triple H faces Reigns). In that scenario, put Cesaro against Sami Zayn, who wins the IC Title between now and then.
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Is the the closest kane has come in years to holding the WWF title? like legitimately storyline wise it seems like the right thing to do.
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Yeah it is def the closest he has been in a long time. I really hope he wins it now that he is in. Not too many people more deserving of a title run than he is.
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The "Ugh, Cena wins" thing has been shown plenty of times to be untrue and a ridiculous thing for people to complain about. The guy loses more than any #1 face in the history of wrestling and people bitch like he's undefeated over the past 10 + years.

Even if he did actually win as much as people wanna believe, the top face should be nearly unbeatable to justify his spot in kayfabe and make it a huge deal when he does lose. He doesn't though. There's NO credibility to the "Ugh, Cena ALWAYS wins" complaint.
There was for a long time though. The last 3 years have been a different story, but the 7 before that....it was more than likely "ugh Cena ALWAYS wins" mentality, and it had a little more merit.

I don't even think people get mad when Cena wins, its usually just how he ends up winning, or who he beats, in what circumstances.
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I think it is more or less because WWE basically choreograph Cena wins. You can pretty much call a Cena win from a mile away. It's something with how they build up to big Cena matches, almost like they are letting you know in advance that he is not to be underestimated. Can't exactly point out what it is, it is just a feeling I get during the build up.

Usually with other high caliber stars and matches, you are left wondering who will win or how or something. You just don't know what exactly is going to happen. 4/5 times with Cena, it's the exact same match. He comes out strong, then gets pummeled a bit, then goes super saiyan Cena and wins with the AA.

I dunno, it's like they just use Cena when they are phoning it in. Can't put my finger on it.

Really don't think he is winning this one though.
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and to be fair Kane took some time off after that match until the Royal Rumble
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:03 AM   #65
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I can see Cena winning because Brock/Cena III would be a huge main event for SummerSlam and even add more fuel to the fire.
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Old 06-27-2014, 04:48 AM   #66
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I want Brock to annihilate Cena at SummerSlam and become the first person to become a WWE World Heavyweight Champion and WWE Undisputed Champion.
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:50 AM   #67
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I don't even think people get mad when Cena wins, its usually just how he ends up winning, or who he beats, in what circumstances.
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I think it is more or less because WWE basically choreograph Cena wins. You can pretty much call a Cena win from a mile away. It's something with how they build up to big Cena matches, almost like they are letting you know in advance that he is not to be underestimated. Can't exactly point out what it is, it is just a feeling I get during the build up.

Usually with other high caliber stars and matches, you are left wondering who will win or how or something. You just don't know what exactly is going to happen. 4/5 times with Cena, it's the exact same match. He comes out strong, then gets pummeled a bit, then goes super saiyan Cena and wins with the AA.

I dunno, it's like they just use Cena when they are phoning it in. Can't put my finger on it.

Really don't think he is winning this one though.
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Pretty much. Also any Cena gimmick match ends in a 'duct-tape' BS finish these days. You're right about being able to call certain wins and spots from a mile away.
I wish I could go back and read all the comments from the three of you when Cena was facing Daniel Bryan or Randy Orton or Edge before that or Rob Van Dam or CM Punk or The fucking Miz...

Because for the most part, people were bitching that "Ugh, we already know Cena is gonna win" and then promptly shut the fuck up when he didn't win only to act like he "ALWAYS wins in these situations" the next time. That's my point. Most main attractions RARELY lost. Nor should they have. And people understood why. Cena loses WAY too much and people just ignore it and complain that he doesn't lose enough. It's ridiculous. Cena should lose so sparingly that other guys, in kayfabe, should strive to do what he does. Yet he doesn't even come close to that and people bitch. Makes no sense.
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Guys, I think we are overlooking a surprise entrant winning: MG Purse.
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I wish I could go back and read all the comments from the three of you when Cena was facing Daniel Bryan or Randy Orton or Edge before that or Rob Van Dam or CM Punk or The fucking Miz...

Because for the most part, people were bitching that "Ugh, we already know Cena is gonna win" and then promptly shut the fuck up when he didn't win only to act like he "ALWAYS wins in these situations" the next time. That's my point. Most main attractions RARELY lost. Nor should they have. And people understood why. Cena loses WAY too much and people just ignore it and complain that he doesn't lose enough. It's ridiculous. Cena should lose so sparingly that other guys, in kayfabe, should strive to do what he does. Yet he doesn't even come close to that and people bitch. Makes no sense.
Go back. Find my posts. You can't. I didn't post that much, especially in this forum. But you know what you're talking about. So do it. Hell, if you actually read this thread you would see I don't even have Cena on my radar for this match. I said a heel is going to win it, and I think it will be Bray.

But I digress. You are right. Everyone should strive to be given the title 14 times. With the same gimmick. The same order of moves almost every match. The same tired old routine.

Get real. People have been right in calling his wins WAY more often than they were wrong. It's how he is booked. He may lose more often than not in the build up to big matches. But when it comes time for the big one, I'd say about 75% of the time he goes Super Cena and wins.
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I did say "for the most part". I don't know for sure if you are personally part of that majority but the rest of that post makes you sound like it.

You say "People have been right in calling his wins WAY more often than they were wrong." ... as if the top face in the company should lose half of his matches. They're wrong a lot. At a higher rate than they would have been with any other top face ever. The guy has put so many guys over I'm surprised beating Cena is still effective. Yet every time people go right back to acting like he never loses the next month.
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Seth Rollins wins the first match, then cashes in on Cena or Reigns after he wins his match.
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Have you considered that maybe people are just tired of stale old Cena actually being the top face in the company? Maybe that's why people are so stoked over Daniel Bryan? Because he's fresh and it's good to see someone else getting a run as the top face instead of the same guy it has been for the last decade?

I don't even particularly like Daniel Bryan but just the fact that he was in the top spot for once made the product have a completely different feel than it has for awhile now. That's a good thing.

People fear Cena returning to the spotlight and the title picture. It's been what, a couple years since he had the title now. I honestly don't have a problem with him getting the title at this point because it has been so long and he does alot for the company. Do I like the thought of him at the top again? No. But I understand it. But you have to realize with Bryan out now, people are probably like "UHG Cena is gonna get Bryan's push now". People have not forgotten that for several years there Cena was champion more often than not and that whenever he lost the title, you knew he was going to get it back within a few months. Everyone is just tired of the 'same old thing', and unfortunately for Cena, he is the center piece of that perceived 'same old thing'. He is the king of the PG era.
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Seth Rollins wins the first match, then cashes in on Cena or Reigns after he wins his match.
I can see this happening. Rollins wins the match, Reigns wins the title (unfortunately, because he isn't ready for that quite yet, IMO).

Rollins then challenges Reigns for the title, and is about to win when Ambrose comes out and interferes, getting Reigns DQ'ed while still getting to keep the title, and adding some extra flair to the Rollins/Ambrose feud. It also upsets Reigns that Ambrose costs him a possible clean win in his first title defense and forms a rift between them that explains away The Shield breaking up completely.
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Old 06-30-2014, 07:04 AM   #76
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Hopefully Rollins decides not to wait and cashes in tonight.
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No interest in Cena v Lesnar at all

Finish to the MITB felt..... I dunno the right word for it... dull maybe? The briefcase ladder match was leagues above the title ladder match tonight.
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Hopefully Rollins decides not to wait and cashes in tonight.
Really thought he would have last night after a post-match beatdown by DEMON KANE *pyro explodes* and/or everyone else.

But no, the majority saw it coming a mile away
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