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Old 09-08-2015, 06:37 PM   #1
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Would you consider the NXT title a World title?
Its held by an Irishman that beat a Canadian in Japan and has defended it in the USA. Its also a developmental title to so. World title or not?
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:58 PM   #2
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Old 09-08-2015, 07:43 PM   #3
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No. I don't consider the original ECW Title to be a World Title either.
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:29 AM   #4
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I would say that the NXT belt is slightly above the Real Deal/TWA belt except when HABM Is champ but not as prestigious as the CHW title at all.
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:30 AM   #5
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No. I don't consider the original ECW Title to be a World Title either.
I don't understand how some can claim it was, and in the same breath say that the TNA Title isn't.
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Old 09-09-2015, 08:46 AM   #6
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Some magazines said it was once they got their TNN deal.
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:25 PM   #7
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TNA have had a TV deal for years. My issue isn't in saying that either are "World Titles" (as if it matters in a fictional sport), it's that either both are or both aren't. You can't have "ECW had a World Title because I loved ECW. TNA's doesn't count because lolTNA."
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Old 09-09-2015, 03:37 PM   #8
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Was kinda responding to Gertner with my post.
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Old 09-14-2015, 08:57 AM   #9
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I have no fucking clue how world titles are/should be defined. I think we need a definitive definition once and for all.
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:00 AM   #10
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Like... I think I would consider the NWA Title a world title based on its history even though it's not been on a visible stage in a ridiculously long time and I think it might currently be around the waist of Rob fucking Conway.

Definitely not the NXT Title though since it's not even the top title in the company it's a part of.
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Old 09-14-2015, 02:26 PM   #11
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Some guy called Jax Dane is the current NWA Champion.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:17 PM   #12
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Who cares?

David Arquette was a world champion, it's apparently not that prestigious.
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David Arquette could wrestle circles around Rob Conway
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If they call it a World Title, it is a world title. The NXT Title is not called a World Title, therefore it is not a World Title. Simple as that.
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Its held by an Irishman that beat a Canadian in Japan and has defended it in the USA. Its also a developmental title to so. World title or not?
Just wondering why you decided to post this in wrestling q&a instead of wrestling forum?
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:17 PM   #16
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It was a question. People gave answers.
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:50 PM   #17
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If they call it a World Title, it is a world title. The NXT Title is not called a World Title, therefore it is not a World Title. Simple as that.
But yet there were plenty of ECW matches for the title which were announced as being for the "ECW World Title", even though WWE has gone on record as saying that they never did and never will consider it a world title.

In that example, I would go with WWE and say it is definitely not a world title.

Just as the World Heavyweight Championship wasn't considered a world title during the brand split, but rather whomever held it while competing for RAW or SD! was considered that brand's locker room leader/brand captain, I look at the NXT Championship in the same way. It's not a world title. Whomever holds the belt should be considered the NXT locker room leader/brand captain.
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Old 01-16-2016, 09:57 AM   #18
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It was a question. People gave answers.
True, but did you think about posting it in the wrestling forum first?
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Old 01-16-2016, 02:27 PM   #19
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It's akin to a regional championship in the old territory days.
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It's akin to a regional championship in the old territory days.
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Its held by an Irishman that beat a Canadian in Japan and has defended it in the USA. Its also a developmental title to so. World title or not?
So, you're saying INTERCONTINENTAL?
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Old 01-17-2016, 11:22 PM   #22
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Could be saying "regional" like the U.S. region belts you have to earn in the first couple of Legends of Wrestling games before advancing to compete for the USA (#1) title.
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This is why I had such issue with the brand split bullshit. We have a world heavyweight champion which sounds prestigious and has the belt that looks legitimately like it's a prize. But.... We don't consider that to be a big a deal as the wwe champion which has a belt that looks like a toy.

And then we have the wwecw title that we have because......well nobody really knows.

I consider any company's top belt that does business around the world to be a world championship. So if tna or nwa or igwp do shows worldwide then yes even tna shpuld be considered a world title.

In that realm nxt is not one because it's not the top title in the company that owns it.

And just to be a stickler, the god damn u.s. Title shouldnt be defended on uk tours or in japan. Just like the television title being defended on wcw ppvs used to piss me off
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LOL, so the United States Championship, which is for whoever holds it to represent a land of opportunity and a melting pot of racial, cultural, and national diversities shouldn't be defended in places around the world because there's no way any Americans live in or have ever been to any other cpuntry than the USA, according to you?
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No, it shouldn't be defended outside the us because the title wouldn't be sanctioned to be defended in brazil or tokyo. If you were to knock out mayweather on a street corner it wouldn't make you wbc champion because their fights arent sanctioned on street corners
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I'm sure WWE would have the forethought to have both champion and challenger(s) sign on the dotted line for the title mstch regardless of if it took place in Brazil, Tokyo or Timbuktu for all anyone cares. The only person who has to sanction it officially is Vince as promoter.

You act as if they don't send out written press releases to venues to let them know of their future arrival to put on a show that also includes the matches to be held on the card. The only ones with any power to change the cards at all are the promoter and executives of the company. The venue and/or people who run it and/or work there get no say in the matter.

Also, nice job with the Mayweather scenario. Totally not full of holes at all. For instance, it's not like Mayweather retired last year after his fight with Pacquiao -- oh, wait he totally did. The 49-0 record thing. Also, of course boxing matches aren't held on street corners, LOL. But if I were a professional boxer who signed for a fight with the guy for his belt, or anyone for that matter, I'm sure whichever state's boxing commission or athletic commission or what have you would ssnction it. And in the unlikely event myself or anyone else were to KO him or win by split or unanimous decision or even TKO, that actually WOULD make that person WBC champion.
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Kind of agree with Norman, Its the United States Championship why would a Brazilian even care about the title. Really just need to do away with the US title and make either a TV title or a cruiserweight title, which is what it basically is now with Kalisto holding it.
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Old 01-30-2016, 12:36 PM   #29
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Also dislike it anytime a forigner has the US title and isnt a heel.
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Kind of agree with Norman, Its the United States Championship why would a Brazilian even care about the title. Really just need to do away with the US title and make either a TV title or a cruiserweight title, which is what it basically is now with Kalisto holding it.
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Old 02-01-2016, 02:49 PM   #32
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I'm sure WWE would have the forethought to have both champion and challenger(s) sign on the dotted line for the title mstch regardless of if it took place in Brazil, Tokyo or Timbuktu for all anyone cares.
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this is the point i was going for that i guess didnt come in clear. you can have a world title match in those countries because they are in the ,you know, world. To keep the title classification of the UNITED STATES title as a second tier to the world title (your top one) it would be a title that should only be able to be sanctioned to defend on said united states. that way your US champ is seen a champion but not THE champion and still ascending

and i am quite sure that damn and i know its fake, the discussion is that it would be wise for the company to portray things as real and legit as possible to gain favor with the adult audience
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Old 02-01-2016, 05:54 PM   #33
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Not at all.

It's an indy belt with worldwide promotion, but it definitely isn't a World Title.
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