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Old 04-09-2016, 02:08 PM   #201
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100%. They were given the benefit of the doubt and proceeded to throw it back in our faces. Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman are going to have to be pretty stellar to get the momentum they squandered back.
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Old 04-09-2016, 05:20 PM   #202
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Feel like I'll still rush out to see Wonder Woman because Gal Gadot looks good and I love "wartime pieces", but I am definitely going to hold off on this one until I hear the reactions.
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:07 PM   #203
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Im down for wondy in theaters. She was truely the only thing that had me wrapped up in BvS.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:14 PM   #204
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More so because the studio behind this movie just put out a major turd and blatant money grab. It's not going to be uncommon for people to hold off on a movie related to BvS. Warner has to win some fans back.
I wish there was a term for this. Let's call it "The Goodwill Principle." Fans will give much more leeway with a franchise when the overall product has been largely good and devoid of the feeling of a re-hash or obvious money grab.

They came back after Iron Man 2 because everything done previously was good. Audiences were willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

On the other side of the spectrum, take a look at The Hunger Games. When they split the last book (the shortest of the three) into two movies, it was pretty blatant what they were doing. The audience was already invested in the franchise so they were going to see this thing through, the studio thought. Then they released a movie that was very subpar. Did great in its first weekend, but word of mouth caused there to be a big drop week-to-week. Oh, it made some decent coin, but it was nowhere near the amount that was expected. (Sound familiar?) The fourth movie was also "meh" and made even less money. Any plans for prequels/sequels/spinoffs went out the window. Not even worth a try. Their goose was cooked. It didn't even take a focus group to tell them the franchise was dead.

Warners is in serious trouble. Even a really fun Suicide Squad won't be enough. They need to put a string of films out that really strike a chord with audiences that isn't a carbon copy of Marvel. Thats quite alot to ask for.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:24 PM   #205
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Can't wait to see Wonder Woman. She was awesome in BvS. Really hope people don't ignore it because it's a woman superhero movie.
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Also, if being a carbon copy of Marvel is to be avoided, they arent off to a great start when the "Big Bad" is Darkseid who looks pretty similar to Thanos.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:26 PM   #207
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Super wish they forget Aqua Man is a person. Just leads to water spots randomly being placed in the Justice League movies when it's not needed.
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Old 04-09-2016, 11:33 PM   #208
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You know its bad when the joke version of Aquaman from Entourage piques your interest more than the real one.
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I'm pretty interested in this Aquaman, I like his look and am interested in how they do Atlantis. Don't think they are in any trouble being a carbon copy of Marvel because Dawn of Justice was far from anything like a Marvel movie. Feel like Marvel has set the precedent for what a comic book movie is and DC made a movie that didn't follow that precedent and I don't think that's a problem.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:08 AM   #210
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Really wish people actually knew more about Aquaman and his mythos/powers... Like, seriously, people need to stop with the stereotypical crap they got from the Justice Friends cartoon and shit. Aquaman is as strong and invulnerable as Wonder Woman, and probably as great a warrior as her too. The dude has gone toe to toe with Superman in the past for Christ's sake. He's not just the guy who talks to fish...
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:32 AM   #211
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Probably talking about Super Freinds. Justice Friends is something from Dextors Laboratory
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Old 04-10-2016, 01:35 AM   #213
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Lol I most certainly did mean Super Friends. God damn Dexter Lab making me do that. XD
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In the same boat, Lock Jaw. I read quite a few issues and enjoyed the hell out of them, but I've gotten so far behind on pretty much everything at this point that I'm lucky to read my usuals.
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Also, if being a carbon copy of Marvel is to be avoided, they arent off to a great start when the "Big Bad" is Darkseid who looks pretty similar to Thanos.
Ironically, Thanos was created as a direct ripoff of darkeid. Jim Starlin outright admitted it.
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"You snooze you lose".

Other than Darkseid though, what big villains does DC have that could possibly carry a DC cinematic universe? My minds gone completely blank.
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"You snooze you lose".

Other than Darkseid though, what big villains does DC have that could possibly carry a DC cinematic universe? My minds gone completely blank.
Ehhhh, im kinda drawing a blank here too. "Juggernaut, Bitch!: The Movie?"

That said, Im really pumped for this
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Ra's Al Ghul, Brainiac, Joker, Bizarro Superman, Hades
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Ra's Al Ghul, Brainiac, Joker, Bizarro Superman, Hades
Great villains, just not "big" ones, depending on the classification
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Yeah, I'm thinking more that "whole Earth is in danger" kinda big. Certainly not Al Ghul or the Joker, whom any member of the Justice League other than Batman could probably kill with one hand.
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Ironically, Thanos was created as a direct ripoff of darkeid. Jim Starlin outright admitted it.
apocalypse is a lot like him too
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It's under the same people? Director, writer, producer; all different.
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Apparently they have been doing "massive reshoots" ever since they heard the positive response to the trailer....

Because apparently the trailer didn't really match the "tone" of the movie, and pretty much all the "lighthearted" or "humorous" stuff was literally in the trailer...... so after they heard that people loved the trailer, they started working on trying to make the movie's tone actually match the trailer....


Makes sense.


When I watched the initial trailers, I always felt that there was a mismatch as far as tone went. Kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
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Starro the Conqueror would be a good villain... The one seen in REBELS comic book.... Though invading alien armada had been done to death....
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It's under the same people? Director, writer, producer; all different.
You're trolling, yeah?

Or do you actually not understand how studio heads effect movies from the ground up?
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That said, Im really pumped for this
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Anti-Monitor

Crime Syndicate

Braniac

Trigon(though he is more a Teen Titans Villian)

Vandal Savage

Amanda Waller(believe it or not)

Sinestro

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Luthor

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Oh yeah and Mongul. Crime Syndicate would be amazing if done right.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:18 PM   #230
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You're trolling, yeah?

Or do you actually not understand how studio heads effect movies from the ground up?
Lol nigga please.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:40 PM   #231
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If they make this movie as funny as Teen Titans GO! I'll watch it 100 times.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:47 PM   #232
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Ugh, I hope not. Don't like that show but mainly because of the animation. Really don't think this movie needs to be real funny though.
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Lol nigga please.
Gotcha. I thought you were. Otherwise i wouldn't even known where tonstart on that one.
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If they make this movie as funny as Teen Titans GO! I'll watch it 100 times.
I will fucking stab you in the neck, you piece of shit.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:46 PM   #235
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I will fucking stab you in the neck, you piece of shit.
I apologize for that. I overrated a tad bit there.
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Yeah, I'm thinking more that "whole Earth is in danger" kinda big. Certainly not Al Ghul or the Joker, whom any member of the Justice League other than Batman could probably kill with one hand.
Either could have the Justice League against each other, doesn't have to world in danger.

Crime Syndicate and Sinestro/Yellow Lantern Corps are top suggestions though. Ditto with Amanda Waller/Checkmate although as behind the scenes villain entity like Luthor.
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Old 04-10-2016, 08:23 PM   #238
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Brainiac would be a great villain for the Justice League to fight. Dude doesn't get enough love outside the comics. He's every bit as terrifying in concept as Darkseid.
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Old 04-10-2016, 08:58 PM   #239
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Would be "cool" if they could do Starro without it being "derivative", since he was the first threat the Justice League fought.

R.E.B.E.L.S. did a good "re-imagining" where they "revealed" that all the Starros seen before were just "scouts", and their "master" was an alien who ruled galaxies and was now coming himself with his huge ass armada from all the galaxies he rules.....

Was a good series....
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Hmmmmm.....
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