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Old 02-23-2015, 11:59 AM   #1
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Did the right guy win?
So after Fastlane has concluded a lot of opinion's have surfaced on WWE's booking for the Wrestlemania main event. I was listening to Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez's post show wrap and Meltzer plainly said "it was a great match, but the wrong guy won". Do you agree?

I loved that main event last night, so to me they did the job of getting Reigns in a position where I accepted his win. I was strongly rooting for Bryan, and that was due to the match layout/psychology. I can however see the bottom line. The image WWE has always sought out for their top guy is so NOT Daniel Bryan. I personally think he dropped the ball almost as much as WWE did on him. What I am talking about is his physique. He was probably the smallest I have seen him in years. He wasn't out of shape cardio wise, don't get me wrong, he just didn't look like he's lifted a weight since his last run in WWE. As much as I want to see Bryan vs Lesnar, Reigns makes so much more sense in so many ways. I also loved seeing Reigns fight to escape the submission holds of Daniel Bryan, I will be interested to see if they go with a similar match style for Wrestlemania.

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Old 02-23-2015, 12:07 PM   #2
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The poll question is different than the thread question.

Roman should have won for the reasons you said. Daniel Bryan looks frail right now. Daniel Bryan going into WrestleMania 30 should have won last night. He's not that guy right now.

The right guy won, but Rusev should have won the Royal Rumble.
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:18 PM   #3
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I'm not remotely interested in Lesnar vs Reigns so I'm going to say no.
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:23 PM   #4
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When the end of WrestleMania features a crowd not giving a shit about a "hot up and coming young superstar" toppling the unstoppable beast and becoming WWE Champion and ushering in a new era...we'll know the answer.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:23 PM   #5
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I honestly have zero interest in watching a Roman vs. Brock Lesnar match. Honestly, most of the matches on the Wrestlemania card do nothing for me right now.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:27 PM   #6
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I like Reigns v.s. Lesnar cause it makes HHH v.s. Sting(The real main event) look super sweet.

On the assist for those that are upset, it is sad that we sometimes or for others have to always nitpick and enjoy certain bits of the show. I think we were spoiled in the Attitude Era with a wealth of great storylines and characters that we have grown distraught at the current product, but from a business aspect I see why all this is going down.
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Old 02-23-2015, 01:34 PM   #7
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Reigns was the right choice. Bryan is already an A-list wrassler, let's see them try and build someone else up to that level to have more viable feuds at the top of the ladder.
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Old 02-23-2015, 02:34 PM   #8
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Hate the whole, 'lets build someone else up' crap for WrestleMania. Any other time of the year I am fine with it but for the Superbowl of wrestling it does not work. I don't want to see the New England Patriots face the St. Louis Rams in the Superbowl because the NFL wants to build someone else up. I want to see the New England Patriots face the Seahawks because they are the two best teams.

I want the fucking best of the best for the final match at Mania. I don't want some up and comer bullcrap person that still needs to learn how to do a promo and give a excellent match 9 out of 10 times.
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Yet people bitch every time Cena headlines a Wrestlemania. Make up your damn minds.
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Old 02-23-2015, 02:37 PM   #10
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I like Reigns v.s. Lesnar cause it makes HHH v.s. Sting(The real main event) look super sweet.

On the assist for those that are upset, it is sad that we sometimes or for others have to always nitpick and enjoy certain bits of the show. I think we were spoiled in the Attitude Era with a wealth of great storylines and characters that we have grown distraught at the current product, but from a business aspect I see why all this is going down.
Probably why they went for it in the end.
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Old 02-23-2015, 02:41 PM   #11
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Yet people bitch every time Cena headlines a Wrestlemania. Make up your damn minds.
I would love to see Cena headline this year. Cena vs. Bryan would have been amazing to have for the title.
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Old 02-23-2015, 02:52 PM   #12
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Reigns was the right choice. Bryan is already an A-list wrassler, let's see them try and build someone else up to that level to have more viable feuds at the top of the ladder.
You're supposed to do that before the guy main events Wrestlemania, not after the fact. Thats my biggest problem with reigns winning. He has done NOTHING as a singles competitor. Thats why his rumble win and his placement in the mania main event have felt forced. He hasnt been built up properly, and has just been thrown into this position.

Some people say bryan wouldn't be believable. Which is a completely stupid arguement, but i wont get into that right now. But reigns beating lesnar is even more unbelievable to me. Bryan has been slowly over the past few years to be a top guy. He went from nxt rookie to beating the wwe's top stars and every victory was believable, because they built him up right. Because of all that, and because of bryan's sheer talent in the ring, i can believe him barely squeaking out a victory.

Reigns doesn't have that history. He has had no feuds to build him him up on any signifigant level. He's not believable as a main event competitor, let alone as the guy to beat one of the most fearsome champs in wwe history.

Maybe in time he can be, but right now, bryan makes more sense and is by far the better story.
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I agree with all that, I'm just so irritated with people acting like Reigns ate their first-born child
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:59 PM   #14
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How about the possibility that Lesnar retains the title? Lesnar eventually loses to Cena who eventually loses to Reigns next year?
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Really hoping that Lesnar keeps the belt until next year when Daniel Bryan or Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, or some other up and comer that actually belongs in the main event dethrones him.
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:16 PM   #16
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You want to keep this part time championship thing until WrestleMania 32? I think it has to be over soon.

It doesn't have to end at WrestleMania 31 though. Either Reigns beats him or Rollins cashes in on him eventually. Lesnar retaining the championship and then Rollins cashing in on him at the Raw after Mania would be great.

Either way in the end the champion is somebody who shows up almost every week.
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Old 02-23-2015, 05:24 PM   #17
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Bryan probably wasn't the right guy to win and beat Lesnar, but Reigns certainly wasn't. This whole thing is just a mess and honestly it's caused me to loose all interest I have in pro-wrestling as I've come to realize that the writers have no clue how to write compelling television. Overall like James Steele said, we'll find out if from a business standpoint it was the right move when Roman actually does it, but from a creative standpoint it's just dumb. This is probably the first 'Mania I've had literally no interest in seeing. Even the undercard looks pointless and dumb.
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Hell i might even go to further to have the cash in tonight. Everybody is talking about if Roman Reigns ready to face Brock Lesnar for the championship. Flip the match on its head. Have Rollins become WWE Champion tonight.

Have Daniel Bryan involved somehow so he can have his David Vs. Goliath match at WrestleMania against Brock Lesnar. The WWE Championship match at WrestleMania is then Seth Rollins Vs. Roman Reigns.
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The right guy won if Bryan would have won it would have made WWE kook weak, and totally make the rumble irrelevant. I know a lot of you are Bryan fans and want to see him in the main event but he is the perfect person to give some credibility to the mid card titles. I would like to see Bryan Vs Rusev at WM for the US title. I wouldn't even mind if he won, plus that would keep the Yes movement happy I believe.
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Everybody says DB vs Brock is unrealistic, but that's why I want to see it. I want to see how Daniel Bryan would try and beat Brock Lesnar. Reigns vs Lesnar will be a slightly more athletic battle of the big men.
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I agree with all that, I'm just so irritated with people acting like Reigns ate their first-born child
Roman Reigns, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, owenbrown. Yeah, they're all about the same level.
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The card will be great and the matches will be really good, but there is a huge lack of "emotional investment" in the matches. WWE has 5 weeks to get me giddy about it and they usually do every year. I just don't think Roman Reigns is ready for the spot and he is extremely boring as a character. Believe that.
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Agree on the idea that the "wrong guy" won but if the WWE is dead set on crowning Cena's heir next month, Reigns winning was the only choice possible. Can't have Bryan diluting any of the Mania reactions meant solely for Reigns and the WWE made sure they broke all of Bryan's big moves to Reigns last night.

Ideally Reigns would have been better off beating Rusev at Mania and using that rub to build towards next year's Mania coronation as the WWE's next mega star. Right now he's being rushed way too fast and still has a lot more star developing work needed.
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The right booking for WrestleMania 31 would have been for Daniel Bryan to win the 2015 Royal Rumble and challenge Brock Lesnar for the title. Roman Reigns should be facing Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns in a Triple Threat Match to find out who is truly the best member of The Shield. But given that Bryan didn't win the Rumble, Reigns beating him makes sense. The WWE are trying to build up Reigns, but I give zero fucks, and it is actually affecting my interest in all other aspects of the product. What they are doing would have been fantastic booking once upon a time, but the business is more exposed now, and Reigns' Superman push just isn't compelling and isn't guaranteed to make him a success story.

If I were going to WrestleMania, I'd honestly walk out before the title match. Seriously.
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Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar doesn't interest me in the slightest. Will just be the same as every other Lesnar match, with Reigns trying to match him power for power.

Bryan, who is super over anyway, should face Lesnar. The dynamics of the match would at least make this one stand out from Lesnar vs. Triple H/John Cena/Undertaker/maybe CM Punk.
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Great stuff on RAW, but it's still just masking the match we should have got.
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You want to keep this part time championship thing until WrestleMania 32? I think it has to be over soon.

It doesn't have to end at WrestleMania 31 though. Either Reigns beats him or Rollins cashes in on him eventually. Lesnar retaining the championship and then Rollins cashing in on him at the Raw after Mania would be great.

Either way in the end the champion is somebody who shows up almost every week.


I am 100% on board with this. I wouldn't even wait until Raw the next night, I would do it immediately after their match at WM. Lesnar and Reigns go through a war and Brock wins and keeps the belt, albeit in very bad shape. For a second you get the marks and some smarks saying "Well, I guess he isn't leaving after all."

BOOM: Rollins music hits, he cashes the case in and attacks Lesnar. Reigns seeing this going on; jumps back into the ring and comes at Rollins with a spear, but Rollins steps out of the way and Reigns hits Lesnar instead! Rollins dumps Reigns to the floor and turns around to find a hurt Lesnar attempting to get back to his feet. Rollins runs over towards Lesnar and drops him with the Curb Stomp! 1! 2! 3!

Honestly I feel like that is the best scenario. You hook the fans in with Brock winning after a brutal match, even thought it looks like he wants to leave and go do other things. Rollins cashes it in, and wins it. That sets up a great feud between Rollins and Lesnar (if he stays) or Roman (if he goes) because Roman will hate the fact that he helped Seth Rollins become the champ.

So Brock gets what he wants, which is going to UFC, Bellator, or whatever.

We get what we want, a new heel champion that can have great matches night after night, and he can tell us all how it was him that defeated the Beast Incarnate.

Roman wins because he can claim that he did all the damage to Lesnar, and it should be his belt. This program would keep him in the Main Event picture working with a great worker; and he can continue to learn while he works with Rollins.

And if Brock does decide to come back at some point, he can easily be inserted into that story arc.
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WM9 is the worst ending to a WrestleMania ever with Hogan winning the title robbing Bret and Yoko of their moment. Not sure why they would want to bring that back at WrestleMania. There hasn't been a cash in at WrestleMania for a reason. It might be because they don't think they had the right person yet. Or it's because they don't want to taint WrestleMania in that manner.
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Yes and No.


Yes in the sense that the WWE would look completely spineless if they had Bryan go over Reigns to counter the negative reactions from the Royal Rumble.


No in the sense that..........ah fuck it. See Fignuts' posts in this thread.
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Old 02-24-2015, 01:20 AM   #31
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You're supposed to do that before the guy main events Wrestlemania, not after the fact. Thats my biggest problem with reigns winning. He has done NOTHING as a singles competitor. Thats why his rumble win and his placement in the mania main event have felt forced. He hasnt been built up properly, and has just been thrown into this position.

Some people say bryan wouldn't be believable. Which is a completely stupid arguement, but i wont get into that right now. But reigns beating lesnar is even more unbelievable to me. Bryan has been slowly over the past few years to be a top guy. He went from nxt rookie to beating the wwe's top stars and every victory was believable, because they built him up right. Because of all that, and because of bryan's sheer talent in the ring, i can believe him barely squeaking out a victory.

Reigns doesn't have that history. He has had no feuds to build him him up on any signifigant level. He's not believable as a main event competitor, let alone as the guy to beat one of the most fearsome champs in wwe history.

Maybe in time he can be, but right now, bryan makes more sense and is by far the better story.
100 percent agree. All I can add is I know i feel this way, maybe others do too, that Reigns BUILD was started at the last rumble. He was meant to be built from there to the top. Then bad booking, stop starts, and injury slowed him from breaking out, and now we have him still here where they wanted him,

So forced. He was a great memeber of the Shield then all of a sudden MANIA MAIN EVENT. I try to compare it to Batista because I feel thats the mold they are using but even then, he started breaking away to "TOP THREAT" awhile before the rumble.
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You want to keep this part time championship thing until WrestleMania 32? I think it has to be over soon.

It doesn't have to end at WrestleMania 31 though. Either Reigns beats him or Rollins cashes in on him eventually. Lesnar retaining the championship and then Rollins cashing in on him at the Raw after Mania would be great.

Either way in the end the champion is somebody who shows up almost every week.
Aside from being involved in a few more PPV's I don't mind Lesnar not being involved as much. IMO the fact that the title isn't defended every other week and passed around like a cheap whore makes it more valuable.

To me that is what made 80's Hogan work
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WM9 is the worst ending to a WrestleMania ever with Hogan winning the title robbing Bret and Yoko of their moment. Not sure why they would want to bring that back at WrestleMania. There hasn't been a cash in at WrestleMania for a reason. It might be because they don't think they had the right person yet. Or it's because they don't want to taint WrestleMania in that manner.
A cash in at Mania would have made sense if Bryan were going over Lesnar. I say that because it would then cement Rollins as THE heel of the this generation. He would be so passionately hated that he would possibly need an actual security detail. WWE needs a heel at that level of heat rather than just a "RAWR, I BEAT YOU NOW!" big fella. Rollins is almost there, people already dislike his character, but something is still missing.

Him cashing in on Reigns OR Lesnar is very uneventful in my mind. I could see Reigns going over and Rollins cashing in on Reigns, but it isn't going to garner the reaction it could if the people actually gave a shit about the WM main event in the first place. I could also see them doing that to try to get more crowd support for Reigns.

Cashing in on Lesnar is just..... well, seems boring to me.
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WWE is taking a HUGE chance putting Reigns in the main event of their biggest PPV with the crowd shitting on him.... I understand that its mostly the IWC and the marks will cheer for whoever Vince wants them to, but I can guarantee that it Mania ends with Reigns standing over a fallen Brock Lesnar, the crowd will not be happy....only way that it will work is if they are setting up a Brock faceturn and Heyman double-cross, with him jumping ship to support "The Next Next Big Thing" in Reigns.....
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Hate the whole, 'lets build someone else up' crap for WrestleMania. Any other time of the year I am fine with it but for the Superbowl of wrestling it does not work. I don't want to see the New England Patriots face the St. Louis Rams in the Superbowl because the NFL wants to build someone else up. I want to see the New England Patriots face the Seahawks because they are the two best teams.

I want the fucking best of the best for the final match at Mania. I don't want some up and comer bullcrap person that still needs to learn how to do a promo and give a excellent match 9 out of 10 times.
Nice burn on our piece of shit football team.
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I do indeed think the right man. Going all in on Reigns from the controversial "superstar of the year" voting to the royal rumble hotshot win, they almost have to keep the push going.

Having him lose risks the integrity of his character long-term. They have made their bed. They've banked on Reigns being the man going forward despite the time and arguably the character and performer himself not being ready. Time to lay in said bed and run with it.
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Maybe Reigns will prove to be the next Hogan and become the new right gay guy for the job.
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Roman Reigns, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, owenbrown. Yeah, they're all about the same level.
True, though I think Lenin, Mussolini and Tojo must be rolling in their graves that they're considered less evil than owen.
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Nice burn on our piece of shit football team.
Won't be yours for very much longer I don't think.
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