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Old 10-08-2004, 07:25 PM   #1
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CPU fan/noise reduction

My computer is being annoyingly loud at the moment, not mad loud but louder than it should be, its as if the CPU fan is catching on something, but all the wires are out of the way, and I can't see anything wrong with the fan itself.

What problems usually occur with fans? I wouldn't mind getting it replaced if it made the computer quieter all the time, but there are two fans, so I dunno if I would have to replace both, or what. Do people make fans that specialize in noise reduction or something, cause that would be awesome.

I'm interested in watercooling too, i've had a look at a couple of online shops, and it looks like a starter kit would set me back around £175 which is pretty expensive, I dunno if watercooling would be a lot better than just getting a new fan or what. It looks pretty complex to set up too from some screenshots i've looked at, and knowing my luck it would probably leak and destroy all my hardware.

Any info/help with watercooling/fans would be very much appreciated.


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Old 10-08-2004, 07:52 PM   #2
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Checked your -power supply- fan?
Mine seems to get wires too close all the time, and it making buzzing noises periodically..
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Old 10-08-2004, 09:10 PM   #3
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My chipset fan had a problem when I first got the motherboard where it would sometimes hit the fan gaurd and making a buzzing noise. I took it off and it quit but the fan did later but that wasn't the gaurds fault. See if it's running up against anything. If you want, you can get some nice quiet fans for cheap. There are many many fans that are made just for noise reduction.

Watercooling can be expensive and require some case modification (if you need a place for your radiator and it's fans) but it keeps everything pretty cool. If you are going to overclock I suggest you go with watercooling but if you don't really know what you're doing it may just be better to get some high power fans and overclock with those.

In conclusion: if you're looking to save money and get some new fans, do that. It's the cheaper of the two and you can still get some great cooling with fans. If you're looking to do some serious overclocking then go with watercooling. You can get starter kits or prebuilt ones that will just sit on your computer (you will still need to buy the chipsets) and they can cause some problems if you don't know what you're doing. Remember, water + electronics don't go good together will they aren't controlled, so if there's a leak, you could be screwed. That never happens with fans though so keep that in mind.

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Old 10-09-2004, 05:06 AM   #4
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you dont need water cooling for what you do. too many complications and bullshits.

get a cpu fan with a copper core and a silent fan(yes they do make fans that are ment to run quiet.

http://www.coolermaster.com/

they make a lot of good fans and cases.
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Old 10-09-2004, 02:05 PM   #5
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Or the other solution is to get a simple fan bus to lower the voltage on the fans and shut them up.
My case is loud as hell when all fans are cranked up, running them all at a lower voltage makes a huge differance.
coolermaster makes some really good looking and functional fan controllers.
I personally like the Areogate 2, monitors temps and controls 4 fans with a nice blue lcd screen.
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Old 10-10-2004, 01:31 PM   #6
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I unscrewed the fan and there was a shitload of dust in the fan, and on the top of the heatsink thingy underneath, so I scraped most of it off, it's hard to tell whether i've fixed it or not, it's not making the annoying noise now, but it still sounds a tad dodgy.

I think I could do with a new fan altogether, I could really use a silent one, i'm not really into overclocking or anything so just the noise level is the only factor in buying one.

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Old 10-10-2004, 06:12 PM   #7
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Don't worry, my computer sounds like a fucking bandsaw or something.
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Don't worry, my computer sounds like a fucking bandsaw or something.
lol, get that checked out.
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Old 10-10-2004, 10:11 PM   #9
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No seriously, when I am at my computer desk, it feels like I am riding a John Deere.
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Old 10-26-2004, 09:59 PM   #10
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No seriously, when I am at my computer desk, it feels like I am riding a John Deere.

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Old 11-02-2004, 11:22 AM   #12
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So it has started being noisy again, some really weird noises at times, and last night the CPU fan didn't even start up when I turned the PC on.

I had to tap it with the screwdriver to get it going, it's the CPU fan that makes the noise, the case fan at the back seems a bit iffy too, leading me to believe that it is a power supply problem, rather than the fans themselves.

I cleaned the CPU fan, it should have no dust on it anymore, I dunno what to do really, apart from buy a new power supply/set of fans. They are cheap though, so I guess i'm not too fussed, but they are the only part inside my PC that I have no experience with replacing.
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:49 PM   #13
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fans are easy to replace.

you'll end up replacing the whole heatsink/fan combo. The heatsink is clipped to the motherboard, all you have to do is undo the clips, the the heatsink will come right off.
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:50 PM   #14
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oh yeah....dont let your computer run without a cpu fan....without it spinning, its only seconds before your cpu is too hot.
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It ran for like about 30 seconds (I had to open the case and get it going) so it better not be fucked now

I remember putting the heatsink thing on when I built the comp, that should be no problem, the power supply came ready with the case so i just have to sort that out i guess.

I might try a silent fan first, and see how that works out.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:42 PM   #16
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there will be 4 screws holding your ps to your case, and 4 more screws holding the ps casing on. take them apart, hopefully the fan in there isnt soldered to the board...i dont trust you with wire cutters and electrical tape.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:32 AM   #17
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I have a similar problem. The only difference being, it only gets really loud when my headphones are plugged in. I dunno WTF is up with that.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:49 AM   #18
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Mine is SO loud, but I am thinking it might just need to be cleaned, cause it's really dusty.
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Old 11-03-2004, 07:55 PM   #19
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:10 PM   #20
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I just had a look inside my PC now (since the cpu fan didnt start up again) and it's not actually connected to the power supply, it's plugged into the motherboard, so I might just try replacing that first.
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yeah its supposed to be connected to your motherboard, its temperature controlled, it will speed up when hot, slow down when cool etc.
sounds like your fan is failing. get a new one.
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Yeah I opened up the PSU, and ran the PC, and the fan inside it was fine, I think it might well be the CPU fan.

But the CPU fan is the one that doesn't start (sometimes) when I turn my PC on, and the case fan at the back will sometimes start spinning too fast I think, and make a loud noise.

If it was just the CPU fan then I would replace it, but i'm not sure.
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It's just a fan, replace it. It's not hard!
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Old 11-24-2004, 10:31 PM   #24
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Well yeah but I don't wanna end up replacing it with a silent one, when the problem might be the PSU which one night while I am asleep could set on fire and blow up the house and kill me

I think I will test the fan out on my old PC just to make sure, then replace it.
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If your wanting a quiet PSU, go for a thermaltake. Alot of people would recommend an enermax, but I've had nothing but problems with all of my Enermax PSUs, they have really bad 5v rails.
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the PSU fan runs fine and makes like no noise, i can hardly hear the fans at all when the CPU fan isnt running, so i'll just replace that one for now, and maybe the case one in time.
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http://www.spire-coolers.com/fcc.asp?ProdID=169

Just bought/installed this today.

Pretty hot, the knob on the back changes the fan speed

not sure what speed i'm supposed to have though so I put it halfway. Might get a silent case fan now too. :[
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Vantec for a case fan, they are the quietest/best
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Old 12-09-2004, 10:19 PM   #29
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hmm

When I put the fan to the lowest speed setting, it is nice and quiet, is it safe to keep it at that, since I would assume they would not make a setting too low so the CPU would overheat and die.

I don't even know how to czech if the CPU is at a good temperature or not
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:27 AM   #30
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Thats like my CPU fan, only mine's a thermaltake, and has 3 diffrent leds.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:08 AM   #31
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When you turn on your puter, you know the text that says Hit Del to enter setup... (might say f2 if not del) and you see that blue and yellow screen...its called youe bios, and its a pretty nifty thing. It even tells you the temp of your cpu.

personally, anything over 45 is too hot
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Old 12-10-2004, 06:41 AM   #32
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:16 AM   #33
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Just tried it now on full speed and minimum speed, the temperature went to like 38-45ºC maximum on both setting, its like it made no difference, I dunno how it would fare when i'm actually running programs and shit while using Windows.

The RPM difference from minimum to maximum speed was about 2500-4500 ish, would running it at 2500 be good enough? It's lovely and quiet now
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:51 AM   #34
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Yeah, 2500 should be enough. I only have mine running at 2700rpm, and it works fine.

Then again, I got 6 fans in the case.
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Nothing wrong with it being under 50.
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