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Old 04-27-2015, 11:01 PM   #1
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Verne Gagne passes away



The list of people he trained is crazy... 93 Wrestlers including these guys

Greg Gagne
Ric Flair
Gene Anderson
Ole Anderson
Lars Anderson
Jim Brunzell
Ricky Steamboat
Curt Hennig
Bob Backlund
The Iron Sheik
Paul Ellering
Blackjack Mulligan
Brian Knobs
Jerry Sags
Scott Norton
Ken Patera
Larry Hennig
Jimmy Valiant
Baron von Raschke
Brad Rheingans
Buddy Rose
Sgt. Slaughter
John Nord
Jimmy Snuka
Bill Irwin
Scott Irwin
Bob Brown
The Undertaker

Pretty impressive list.

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Old 04-27-2015, 11:18 PM   #2
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Ive actually heard of him. Good job not putting this in the obscure rassler death thread. They say deaths come in threes: Ron Wright, Vern Gagne.....WHO'S NEXT?
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:19 AM   #3
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He didn't train most if those guys.

They went through his territory.
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:20 AM   #4
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Half of these troglodytes on the fucking net don't know who Verne is!! Pieces of shit!! I break your back with the camel clutch, I'll shit on your porch. There are too many people in this world and not enough batteries, go fuck Mickie James and try to make her cum.
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:21 AM   #5
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He also was a horrible promoter that ruined his company and helped kill the territories.

Great wrestler thougHow.
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:59 AM   #7
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:07 AM   #8
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This is so weird. I was watching iron sheik's interviews and decided to look up his wiki page (curious what his wife looked at) and then clicked Verne Gagne on Wikipedia (just a few minutes ago)

I haven't visited any wrestling websites or anything in a very long time, and then I see on his Wikipedia page that he had just died a few hours ago.

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Old 04-28-2015, 03:15 AM   #10
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Half of these troglodytes on the fucking net don't know who Verne is!! Pieces of shit!! I break your back with the camel clutch, I'll shit on your porch. There are too many people in this world and not enough batteries, go fuck Mickie James and try to make her cum.
AWA seemed like it would've been a good first place to get your start as a wrestler if you couldn't make the WWF back in the pre-WCW days. Dont unfortunately know too much about him other than that he was a great promoter, seems like he was a really nice guy too.

I remember for a while some ESPN channel (can't recall which) sometime in the last decade would sometimes show old full episodes of AWA shows, really cool stuff for me since I never really saw any of it growing up.

Shame we're really starting to see the last of the REALLY old guard of the industry disappear now. Verne I'm sure will be missed by many fans and industry friends he had alike, and the same goes for me.

Hopefully he gets maybe at least a 1-2 minute little video package on SD! this week, would be a very classy move on their part.
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Old 04-28-2015, 03:17 AM   #11
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Yeah, I actually heard of the guy.

Last I heard he was beating up people in a retirement home and breaking their hips. True fighter to the very end.

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Massive loss to the wrestling community. Awesome territory and probably the greatest developer of talent in history.
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Verne Gagne
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Verne Gagne
Birth name Laverne Clarence Gagne
Born February 26, 1926
Robbinsdale, Minnesota, United States
Died April 27, 2015 (aged 89)
Bloomington, Minnesota, United States
Professional wrestling career
Ring name(s) Verne Gagne
Billed height 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)[1]
Billed weight 215 lb (98 kg)[1]
Trained by Tony Stecher[2]
Joe Pazandak[2]
Debut May 3, 1949[2]
Retired 1981[1][3]
Laverne Clarence "Verne" Gagne[2] (February 26, 1926 – April 27, 2015) was an American professional wrestler, football player, wrestling trainer, and wrestling promoter. He was the owner and promoter of the Minneapolis, Minnesota-based American Wrestling Association (AWA), the predominant promotion throughout the Midwest and Manitoba for many years. He remained in this position until 1991, when the company folded.

Gagne was a 16-time World Heavyweight Champion, having held the AWA World Heavyweight Championship ten times, the World Heavyweight Championship (Omaha version) five times and the IWA World Heavyweight Championship once. Gagne holds the record for the longest combined reign as a world champion and is third, behind Bruno Sammartino and Lou Thesz, for the longest single world title reign. He is one of six men inducted into each of the WWE, WCW, Professional Wrestling and Wrestling Observer Newsletter halls of fame.

Early lifeEdit

Gagne was born in Robbinsdale, Minnesota and grew up on a farm in Corcoran, Minnesota. He left home at the age of 14 after his mother died from gayniggeraids. He went to Robbinsdale High School and excelled in football, baseball and wrestling, winning district, regional, and state championships in high school wrestling, as well as being named to the All-State Football Team. In 1943, he was recruited to play football at the University of Minnesota, where he was named to the All-Big Ten Team.

After one year of college, Gagne enlisted with the United States Marine Corps.[2] He chose to return to the University of Minnesota, where, as an amateur wrestler, he captured two NCAA titles. He was also an alternate for the U.S freestyle wrestling team at the 1948 Olympic Games; he later said that he might have wrestled in the Olympics, but his coaches had discovered that he had earned money winning a wrestling match at a carnival, thus putting his amateur standing in question.[4]

National Football LeagueEdit

Gagne joined the National Football League (NFL) soon after by being drafted in the 16th round (145th pick) of the 1947 NFL Draft by the Chicago Bears.[5] Bears owner George Halas prevented Gagne from pursuing both football and wrestling (likely due to former Bear Bronko Nagurski having moonlighted as a professional wrestler during the height of his NFL career), and forced Gagne to make a choice. In a 2006 interview for WWE, Verne's son Greg Gagne mentioned that wrestling was a much better paying job at the time than playing football (as recently as the 1970s, it was not uncommon for NFL players to have a second job during the NFL offseason to help make ends meet), and as a result Verne chose wrestling over football.[6]

Professional wrestling careerEdit

National Wrestling AllianceEdit
In 1949, Gagne decided to wrestle professionally, starting his career in Texas. In his debut, he defeated Abe Kashey, with former World Heavyweight boxing Champion Jack Dempsey as the referee. On November 13, 1950, Gagne captured the National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) Junior Heavyweight title in a tournament for the vacant championship.[2]

In September 1953, Gagne won the Chicago version of the NWA United States Championship.[2] Gagne became one of the most well-known stars in wrestling during the golden age of television, thanks to his exposure on the Dumont Network, where he wowed audiences with his technical prowess. He was rumored to be one of the highest paid wrestlers during the 1950s, reportedly earning a hundred thousand dollars a year.[7]

On June 14, 1957, Edouard Carpentier defeated NWA Champion Lou Thesz in Chicago. The NWA later overruled the decision of the referee in Chicago and gave the title back to Thesz. However, certain wrestling territories of the NWA including Nebraska refused to go along with the decision and continued to recognize Carpentier. Carpentier lost his title to Gagne in Omaha on August 9, 1958,[2] making him the recognized NWA World champion in the NWA territories that had recognized Carpentier, before dropping the belt three months later to Wilbur Snyder. By early 1960, the highly wealthy Gagne rarely wrestled and turned his focus towards building a wrestling promotion of his own.[7]

American Wrestling AssociationEdit
In 1960, Gagne formed his own promotion, the American Wrestling Association (AWA), instantly becoming its top star. That same year, Gagne was awarded the AWA World Heavyweight Championship, after Pat O'Connor failed to defend the title against the number one contender, Gagne. O'Connor had been the reigning NWA World champion and was given the AWA World Title by Gagne (although O'Connor and the NWA refused to acknowledge it) and was advised by the new AWA to grant Gagne a title match within 90 days or else the AWA would declare Gagne the new AWA World champion. Gagne would go on to become a nine-time AWA World Champion (some sources say ten), a record for the promotion. He also had one of the longest World Title reigns in wrestling history, holding the AWA Title from August 31, 1968 until November 8, 1975, a total of 7 years 3 months, when he finally lost the belt to Nick Bockwinkel, this reign was the third longest world title reign in history.[citation needed] As well as being the company's owner, Gagne would also train wrestlers from his farm in Chanhassen as well.

Some of Gagne's biggest feuds were against Gene Kiniski, Dr. Bill Miller (under a mask both as Dr. X and then Mr. M), Fritz Von Erich, Dr. X (Dick Beyer), The Crusher (Reggie Lisowski), Ray Stevens, Mad Dog Vachon, Larry "The Ax" Hennig, and Nick Bockwinkel. He always wrestled as a face, and utilized the sleeper hold as his finisher.

As promoter of the AWA, Gagne was known for putting on an "old school" show. He sought out wrestlers with amateur backgrounds over the hulking brutes who dominated wrestling in the 1980s. This led to a problem with his biggest draw, Hulk Hogan, whom Gagne had acquired after Hogan had been let go by the World Wrestling Federation and who Gagne also felt was not championship material, due to the fact that Hogan was a powerhouse wrestler and not a technical wrestler. Seeing Hogan as the company's top draw, Gagne did, however, let Hogan feud with Bockwinkel. Eventually, as noted on the 2006 Spectacular Legacy of AWA DVD, Gagne settled with making Hogan his champion after Hogan's feud with Bockwinkel ran its course in April 1983, but only under the condition that he would receive the bulk of the revenue Hogan made from both merchandise sales and his matches in Japan. Hogan refused. In late 1983, Hogan accepted an offer from Vincent K. McMahon to return to the WWF. The Iron Sheik, whom Gagne trained, has alleged that he was offered a cash bribe by the AWA's owner to inflict career threatening damage on Hogan's knee after it became apparent that he was going to go to the WWF. This allegation was supported by Hogan during an interview for A&E's Biography.

What followed was a purge of stars from various territories and promotions, including Gagne's AWA, by Vince McMahon, who wished to take his WWF "national" and do away with the traditional territorial system that dominated the North American pro wrestling landscape for decades. Unlike most of his contemporaries, by the mid 1980s, Gagne began promoting the AWA beyond the geographical bounds of the company's traditional territory. In September 1985, ESPN began broadcasting AWA Championship Wrestling, granting the AWA national exposure similar to what the World Wrestling Federation was experiencing. However, the AWA suffered numerous setbacks; AWA Championship Wrestling wasn't treated as a priority by ESPN, the show was sometimes not aired in its regular timeslot, sometimes it was preempted by live sporting events and occasional changes in timeslots without advertising the changes resulted in many fans being unable to tune in on a regular basis. Gagne's booking strategies for the wrestlers themselves continued to be more old school than those of the WWF in that Gagne felt the biggest stars should be the most talented technical wrestlers instead of wrestlers with charismatic personas and over-the-top personalities. Throughout the mid to late 1980s, the AWA would lose nearly every one of its top stars while ratings and live attendance continued to decline. By 1991, the damage had been done, and the AWA shut down, after 30 years. Gagne would eventually end up in bankruptcy court.[8]

Halls of fameEdit
In April 2006, Gagne was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame by his son, Greg Gagne. He is one of the few wrestlers to be in the WWE Hall of Fame, WCW Hall of Fame, Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame and Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame.[9]

ControversyEdit

On January 26, 2009, Gagne got into an altercation with Helmut Gutmann, a 97-year old resident of the facility, who fell and broke his hip. According to Gutmann's widow, Gagne picked him up and hurled him violently to the floor, then pulling back on his body, thus breaking his hip. She was not present during the altercation, however, and Bloomington, Minnesota police chief Jeff Potts said "The attack – which was not a wrestling body slam – happened quickly while the men were at a table, Bloomington Police Chief Jeff Potts said. It was more like 'a push and a shove' and it caused Gutmann to fall."[10]

Neither man had any recollection of the incident.[11] Gutmann was admitted to the hospital, and died on February 14 from complications from the injury.[12] On February 25, 2009, the man's death was officially ruled a homicide by the Hennepin County medical examiner's office.[11] On March 12, 2009, the Hennepin County Prosecutor's office officially announced that Gagne will not be criminally charged as a result of the death. Because of Gagne's dementia, he lacked the mental capacity necessary to have intended to harm Gutmann.[10]

Personal lifeEdit

Gagne was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease[13] (or possibly chronic traumatic encephalopathy caused by a lifetime of head injuries)[14] and had been living in the memory-loss section of a Bloomington, Minnesota health care facility.[13] From January 2012 (and possibly since the 2009 altercation), he had been living in the home of his daughter Beth and her husband Will until his death in April 2015.[15] He continued to make public appearances in his last years, aided by his son Greg.[16]

DeathEdit

On the night of April 27, 2015, Gagne died in Bloomington, Minnesota at the age of 89.[17]

In wrestlingEdit

Finishing moves
Sleeper hold
Signature moves
Belly to back suplex
Dropkick
Headscissors takedown – sometimes with opponent on apron[18]
Scoop slam
Championships and accomplishmentsEdit

Amateur wrestlingEdit
Amateur Athletic Union
Northwestern AAU Championship (1942)
National AAU Championship (1948, 1949)
Big Ten Conference
Big Ten Conference Championship (1944, 1947, 1948)
Minnesota State High School League
Minnesota State Championship (1943)
National Collegiate Athletic Association
NCAA Championship (1948, 1949)
Olympic Games
Member of 1948 United States Olympic Team[3]
Professional wrestlingEdit
Cauliflower Alley Club
Lou Thesz Award (2006)
International Pro Wrestling
IWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
NWA Chicago
NWA United States Heavyweight Championship (Chicago version) (2 time)[19]
NWA World Tag Team Championship (Chicago version) (1 time) – with Edouard Carpentier[20]
NWA Minneapolis Wrestling and Boxing Club / American Wrestling Association
AWA World Heavyweight Championship (10 times)[21]
AWA World Tag Team Championship (4 times) – with Moose Evans (1), The Crusher (1), Billy Robinson (1), and Mad Dog Vachon (1)[22]
NWA World Tag Team Championship (Minneapolis version) (4 times) – with Bronko Nagurski (1), Leo Nomellini (2), and Butch Levy (1)[23]
World Heavyweight Championship (Omaha version) (5 times)
NWA Tri-State
NWA World Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[24]
Omaha, Nebraska
World Heavyweight Championship (Omaha version) (5 times)[25]
Pro Wrestling Illustrated
Stanley Weston Award (1986)
PWI ranked him No. 158 of the 500 best singles wrestlers during the "PWI Years" in 2003
Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame
Class of 2004[26]
Robbinsdale High School's Athletic Hall of Fame
Inaugural Class (2013)[27]
Southwest Sports, Inc.
NWA Texas Heavyweight Championship (2 times)[28]
NWA World Tag Team Championship (Texas version) (1 time) – with Wilbur Snyder[29]
Tokyo Sports
Match of the Year Award (1981)- vs. Giant Baba on January 18[30]
World Championship Wrestling
WCW Hall of Fame (Class of 1993)[31]
World Wrestling Entertainment
WWE Hall of Fame (Class of 2006)[32]
Wrestling Observer Newsletter
Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame (Class of 1996)[17]
Wrestlers trained
Gagne trained, in whole or part, about 93 wrestlers, including:[33]

Greg Gagne[34]
Ric Flair[1][3]
Gene Anderson[34]
Ole Anderson[34]
Dick the Bruiser[34]
Lars Anderson[34]
Jim Brunzell[34]
Ricky Steamboat[1][3]
Curt Hennig[3]
Bob Backlund[1][3]
The Iron Sheik[3]
Blackjack Mulligan[34]
Scott Norton[34]
Ken Patera[1][3]
Jimmy Valiant[34]
Baron von Raschke[34]
Brad Rheingans[3]
Buddy Rose[34]
Bill Irwin[34]
Bob Brown[34]
Tony Halme[34]
FootnotesEdit

"Verne Gagne's Hall of Fame profile". WWE. Retrieved May 24, 2011.
Hornbaker, Tim (2007). National Wrestling Alliance: The Untold Story of the Monopoly That Strangled Pro Wrestling. ECW Press. pp. 234–237. ISBN 978-1-55022-741-3.
Westcott, Brian. "Verne Gagne". Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum. Retrieved May 24, 2011.
Grasso, John (2014). Historical Dictionary of Wrestling. Maryland: Scarecrow Press. pp. 107–109. ISBN 978-0-8108-7925-6.
"1947 NFL Player Draft". databasefootball.com. Retrieved January 25, 2011.
The Spectacular Legacy of the AWA DVD
http://www.wrestling-titles.com/pers...e/crusade.html
In Re: Verne Gagne, Debtor http://wrestlingperspective.com/legal/1993/gagne.html
"Minnesota Wrestling Icon Verne Gagne Dead At 89". CBS Minnesota. April 28, 2015. Retrieved April 28, 2015.
No Criminal Charges Against Ex-Wrestler SI.com, March 12, 2009
Simons, Abby (February 25, 2009). "Gagne case: Death ruled a homicide". Minneapolis Star Tribune (Avista Capital Partners). Retrieved February 26, 2009.
Walsh, Paul (February 19, 2009). "Famed wrestler Gagne linked to death of man, 97". Minneapolis Star Tribune (Avista Capital Partners). Retrieved February 19, 2009.
Featherly, Kevin (February 18, 2009). "Legendary wrestler Verne Gagne and a tragic tale". MinnPost.com. Retrieved February 19, 2009.
Featherly, Kevin (February 20, 2009). "Verne Gagne and aging pro athletes: Studies focus on brain damage". MinnPost.com. Retrieved February 20, 2009.
Royce, Graydon (January 25, 2012). "Verne Gagne returns to screen in 'The Wrestler'". Star Tribune.
Powell, Jason. "AWA legend Verne Gagne dead at age 89". prowrestling.net. Retrieved 28 April 2015.
"Breaking News: wrestling legend, Observer first year Hall of Famer Verne Gagne passes away at 89". Wrestling Observer Newsletter. April 27, 2015. Retrieved April 28, 2015.
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NWA United States Heavyweight Title (Chicago) history At wrestling-titles.com
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AWA World Heavyweight Title history, wrestling-titles.com; accessed September 10, 2014.
AWA World Tag Team Title history At wrestling-titles.com
NWA World Tag Team Title (Minneapolis) history At wrestling-titles.com
NWA World Junior Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
World Heavyweight Title (Omaha) history At wrestling-titles.com
Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame Inductees At wrestling-titles.com
http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=81049
Texas Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
NWA World Tag Team Title (Texas) history At wrestling-titles.com
東京スポーツ プロレス大賞. Tokyo Sports (in Japanese). Retrieved January 20, 2014.
WCW Hall of Fame Inductees At wrestling-titles.com
WWF/WWE Hall of Fame Inductees At wrestling-titles.com
Evan Denbaum (March 15, 2006). "Greg Gagne on his father's upcoming induction into the WWE Hall of Fame". WWE.
Verne Gagne's profile at WrestlingData.com
ReferencesEdit

Dave Meltzer & John F. Molinaro (2002). Top 100 Pro Wrestlers of all Time. Winding Stair Press. ISBN 1-55366-305-5.
External linksEdit

Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame Profile of Verne Gagne
WWE Hall of Fame Profile of Verne Gagne
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Wrestling history would look a lot different if not for Verne Gagne. He had a major impact on the last days of the territories and had a hand in developing some of the biggest stars of the industry. If he'd been a better businessman he might have been a legend on the same level as Vince McMahon. It would have been amazing to have AWA alive and well during the Monday Night Wars.
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AWA was the first wrestling I was introduced to by my grandparents here in Minnesota. Even went to the old Civic Center in St. Paul and saw my first live match with Nick Bockwinkle. It's also where I fist saw my favorite tag team, The Road Warriors.
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Verne Gagne had such a huge and lasting impact on the business.

People tend to only remember the sad final years of the AWA from ESPN Classics. AWA however from 1960 to around 1984 was one of the top promotions in the country.

It isn't like it was some rinky dink local promotion running your local vfw halls.

AWA produced and carried many of the top talent at one time or another - Hogan, Heenan, Ventura, Road Warriors, Fabulous Ones, Nick Bockwinkel, Crusher, Ray Stevens, Iron Sheik, Curt Hennig, Scott Hall, Shawn Michaels, Vachons & many more.

Verne in his younger years was also one helluva worker too.

His feuds with Billy Robinson and Nick Bockwinkel are legendary.

I am shocked and saddened to find out his passing this morning.




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