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View Poll Results: Would you like to see Cena break Flair'a 16x world title record?
Definitely 8 24.24%
Probably 2 6.06%
Matching the record would be best 1 3.03%
Cena should probably stay at 15 2 6.06%
Cena should definitely stay at 15 7 21.21%
Irrelevant 13 39.39%
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Old 10-14-2016, 04:25 PM   #41
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If Vince had such a magic talent for taking a guy and getting them over to the level of Hogan why didn't it work with literally anybody else he tried it with? Warrior failed as a Hogan replacement, Nash failed in 1995, latest case is Reigns.
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Old 10-14-2016, 04:38 PM   #42
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If Vince had such a magic talent for taking a guy and getting them over to the level of Hogan why didn't it work with literally anybody else he tried it with? Warrior failed as a Hogan replacement, Nash failed in 1995, latest case is Reigns.
Missed that whole Atitude Era minor bit of success.
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Old 10-14-2016, 04:39 PM   #43
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And Reigns hasn't been a failure. Network subs grew while he was on top.
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Old 10-14-2016, 04:51 PM   #44
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Reigns is a failure. You just said this on the last page.

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More people view WWE content today than in any point in their history. I don't think that's BECAUSE of Cena, I give all glory to Vince, but your "facts" are just not based in reality.
So Cena isn't responsible for a record number of people watching WWE but Reigns is a success because subscribers went up during his reign. I'm not really seeing your logic on this one.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:35 PM   #45
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Look at social media views (You Tube, FB, Twitter, Instagram, etc). More people worldwide are exposed to WWE programming than any other time in history. People who think the WWE is less popular are going by Neilsen television measures from ONE country, which are outdated and don't reflect how people consume entertainment in 2016.

As for revenue, do you knew what WWEs revenue was in 1987?
Got it. You dont have any idea what you're on about. Cool beans.
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:55 PM   #46
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I'm not sure if you guys missed it but this CyNick thing already happened last year. He eventually left, got bored and came back to do the same lame troll thing to a new group of posters. I suggest just going back and reading those threads before you get involved.
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Old 10-14-2016, 08:02 PM   #47
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Also Cena should break the record. With two world titles and hotshotting taking away the importance of title reigns nowadays it's gonna get broken soon enough anyway and then surpassed multiple times. Might as well let Cena set the new bar for the future since he's the biggest star of the era.
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Old 10-15-2016, 01:32 PM   #48
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The title belts get thrown about more than a cheap whore at a millionaire's orgy, means fuck all these days. Says it all that Cena is a 15 time champion in about a third of the time it took Flair.
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Old 10-15-2016, 01:37 PM   #49
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If Orton wasn't always injured, he might be hovering around 16 as well.
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Old 10-15-2016, 01:41 PM   #50
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Missed that whole Atitude Era minor bit of success.
That was a bit different though. Austin was the driving force behind the Attitude Era and he wasn't Vince's plan. Austin got over almost by accident and kudos to Vince for hitching his wagon to him, but Austin was never the ordained "The Guy" who they strapped a rocket to the same way they did with Warrior, Nash, Luger, Reigns, etc. he was a "good hand" that had a bad attitude the fans gravitated towards and Vince rolled with it.

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I'm not sure if you guys missed it but this CyNick thing already happened last year. He eventually left, got bored and came back to do the same lame troll thing to a new group of posters. I suggest just going back and reading those threads before you get involved.
Yup. Just realised he'll rationalise it that Vince planned the whole Austin ride all the way back to him being Chilly McFreeze.
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Old 10-15-2016, 01:42 PM   #51
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Different era guy. Cena has been the draw for WWE longer than any other star they've ever or are likely ever going to produce. More than deserves it.
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Old 10-15-2016, 04:00 PM   #52
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I'm not sure if you guys missed it but this CyNick thing already happened last year. He eventually left, got bored and came back to do the same lame troll thing to a new group of posters. I suggest just going back and reading those threads before you get involved.
Guy who has a gimmick of trying to discredit me accuses me of playing a gimmick. Noid level logic.
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That was a bit different though. Austin was the driving force behind the Attitude Era and he wasn't Vince's plan. Austin got over almost by accident and kudos to Vince for hitching his wagon to him, but Austin was never the ordained "The Guy" who they strapped a rocket to the same way they did with Warrior, Nash, Luger, Reigns, etc. he was a "good hand" that had a bad attitude the fans gravitated towards and Vince rolled with it.


Yup. Just realised he'll rationalise it that Vince planned the whole Austin ride all the way back to him being Chilly McFreeze.
Austin wasn't Vince's plan? So he just wrote himself in the main event every night? Smart strategy. This is why the WWE laughs at your type of fan.

I highly recommend Bruce Prichard's podcast. Will help you guys out a lot.
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Old 10-15-2016, 04:07 PM   #54
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Reigns is a failure. You just said this on the last page.



So Cena isn't responsible for a record number of people watching WWE but Reigns is a success because subscribers went up during his reign. I'm not really seeing your logic on this one.
Both Cena and Reigns have been successful. Reigns only recently got the top spot. While in the top spot he helped drive record network subs. Not entirely because of him, just like the growth of WWE with Cena in the lead spot wasnt all because of him. But both guys were successful in the top spot leading the company to increased revenues and network subs.
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Got it. You dont have any idea what you're on about. Cool beans.
Sounds like a statement from someone with no facts.
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:00 PM   #56
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Old 10-16-2016, 05:48 AM   #58
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It's a booked accomplishment. I don't care as long as the product I'm watching is entertaining.

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Pretty much. Like the woman on the soap opera who gets the most show ending slaps. Still, Xena chasing it makes it a good.storyline, but I don't care if he does it or not.
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Old 10-16-2016, 06:35 AM   #59
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Austin wasn't Vince's plan? So he just wrote himself in the main event every night? Smart strategy. This is why the WWE laughs at your type of fan.

I highly recommend Bruce Prichard's podcast. Will help you guys out a lot.
The effect of Austin 3:16 was not planned, Micheals was always the man until he got hurt and Vince pulled the trigger out of Necessity.
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Lies, lies, and more lies!

Vince planned the Curtail Call at MSG expressly so that he could punish HHH by taking away his scheduled KOTR win so that Austin could get the nod and cut the Austin 3:16 promo that Vince wrote for him.
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I think the most frustrating thing about CyNick's posts are the lack of argument structure. I couldn't give a shit about the content, because he's just wrong, but the lack of a proper foundation is what bothers me. But I guess that is the gimmick.
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Old 10-16-2016, 06:41 PM   #63
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You have the exact same gimmick...
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Nah noids gimmick is have an over active imagination and the ability to write essays on a whim.
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Used to be his gimmick, now he just argues and calls you names or says "this is why wrestling is the way it is." While continuing to write terrible essays about Ivory taking over the booking.
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Old 10-16-2016, 08:33 PM   #66
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I think the most frustrating thing about CyNick's posts are the lack of argument structure. I couldn't give a shit about the content, because he's just wrong, but the lack of a proper foundation is what bothers me. But I guess that is the gimmick.
What am I wrong about? That Austin magically got into main event angles and then magically won the Rumble multiple times and then magically was featured in a high profile angle with Mike Tyson and then magically main evented wrestlemania? You might want to check your foundation, it's cracking and the basement is flooded.
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:36 PM   #71
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Old 10-17-2016, 04:44 PM   #72
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Old 10-17-2016, 05:00 PM   #73
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Old 10-17-2016, 05:47 PM   #74
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Old 10-17-2016, 07:31 PM   #75
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Used to be his gimmick, now he just argues and calls you names or says "this is why wrestling is the way it is." While continuing to write terrible essays about Ivory taking over the booking.
No, that's just you, mr. adamle. After working out a few times you misread most of what is said, I stopped trying reason with you. You're like a puppy I like to work up. /Heel Noid
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Old 10-17-2016, 07:32 PM   #76
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Destor is still King of the Forum to me.

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I'll anex the wrestling forum.

We are now an independent nation. LETS BUILD A WALL
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