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Old 11-30-2015, 10:01 PM   #401
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Old 12-01-2015, 10:23 AM   #402
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Are you sad that Mick proved his idle threats were just that?

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Old 12-01-2015, 11:48 AM   #403
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:44 PM   #404
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This is why I didn't make you the poster boy.

By the way, did you see that Wyatt bump through the table last night?
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Old 12-01-2015, 01:04 PM   #405
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No did it look pretty cool? Post a gif.
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Old 12-01-2015, 01:17 PM   #406
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No did it look pretty cool? Post a gif.
I have no idea how. Just watch the show.
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Old 12-01-2015, 01:24 PM   #407
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Kofi said in an interview that he himself want the group to be faces
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In the interview, Woods talked about their initial idea behind the positivity gimmick - and his version doesn't include Vince McMahon or Kevin Dunn telling the trio to dance or impersonate Tyler Perry:
...it's maybe one of the only positive things on television, because you turn on the news and there's death, murder, car crashes and everything. Here's a positive thing with three guys, all college educated, all college athletes, all very eloquent so we'll preach a positive message like ‘do well in life and go to school, make sure you work out you could be big and strong like E, make sure if you stretch a lot you can be flexible and agile like Kofi and make sure if you read your books you could be smart like Woods.'
And then we realized after a few months it turned into ‘people don't like those who are happy. So it's kind of like a play on society, essentially, people of American society.
Back in the 80s, if someone's happy, someone's doing well, someone's getting hardships, you cheered for that person. But now it's 2015, and they don't like that. They want someone who's grimy and who doesn't like people and who doesn't smile and isn't happy and wants to punt a puppy across a football field. If that happened, people would be watching and it would get 3 million views on YouTube because it's something that's horrible so essentially society has created this thing where people like to see car wrecks, and they want to see a hot mess and they want to see a fall from grace. So if you don't have those things people are going to boo you because that's not entertaining to them, they want to see a mess, they want to see somebody fall on the sidewalk and bust their lip on the ground. They don't like nice things.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:27 AM   #408
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- As noted, Thursday's Thanksgiving edition of WWE SmackDown drew a record-low 1.652 million viewers, down from the 2.229 the week before. The final rating for the show was a 1.15, down from the previous week's 1.64 rating. This is close to the lowest-rated SmackDown in Syfy history, going back to a 1.14 in December 2010 on their debut episode.
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Fun fact, TNA was averaging 1.17 rating with 1.61 million viewers in 2011. they literally reached TNA levels with smackdown last week
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:33 AM   #409
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Considering WWE barely gives a shit about Smackdown, why should the fans?
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Old 12-02-2015, 08:16 AM   #410
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Considering WWE barely gives a shit about Smackdown, why should the fans?
Have you READ the spoilers? Someone is very strong! Ratings will be too!
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:06 AM   #411
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Fun fact, TNA was averaging 1.17 rating with 1.61 million viewers in 2011. they literally reached TNA levels with smackdown last week
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Is this serious?

You guys should all be wrestling journalists. You are all qualified!

Real talk time with The CyNick. Smackdown was the 2nd most watched show in its timeslot on cable on Thursday.
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:13 AM   #412
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SmackDown has been completely irrelevant for years. Nothing new or interesting happens on there and pretty much any good SmackDown match will be repeated on Raw anyway.

SmackDown has been that way since the brand split ended. It's just sorta "there" as opposed to advancing any kind of story.
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:27 AM   #413
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But when it moves to USA it will be really important for 1 week.
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:21 AM   #414
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Raw was back up BTW

Football was down

Still trying to figure out of there is a correlation.
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:55 AM   #415
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According to showbuzzdaily.com, Monday’s edition of Raw did an average of 3.17 million viewers; this is up from last week’s 2.964 million viewers, which was a record low. Monday’s show did hours of 3.309 million viewers, 3.190 million viewers and 3.005 million viewers.
The NFL on ESPN (Ravens vs. Browns) drew 10.116 million viewers, and was #1 for the night. Raw gained around 200,000 viewers, while the Monday Night Football game was down nearly 4 million viewers. Raw was #3, trailing the NFL and Major Crimes. RAW was #5 for the night in the 18-49 demographic, they were behind the NFL, SportsCenter, Street Outlaws and Love & Hip-Hop.
hmm so they were #3 overall, and #5 18-49.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:11 PM   #416
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In terms of viewers, still well below their average. If it wasn't for last week's disaster, this week would have been the new record low for some perspective.

8pm getting weaker and 10pm hovering around the sub 3 million levels is what has been hurting the ratings the most for this year.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:39 PM   #417
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In 2013, the WWE had a viewership of over 4 million viewers on 30 editions of RAW.

In 2014, RAW broke the 4 million plus viewership mark on 34 episodes of the WWE’s flagship program.

In 2015, the WWE has only had RAW episodes that had over 4 million viewers watching a total of nine times. Seven of the nine times happened during WrestleMania season, where the WWE peaked the night after WrestleMania with a 5.36 million viewership. After that, the only other shows to crack over 4 million viewers was the go home show to Extreme Rules (4.038 million) and the night after the Money in the Bank pay per view (4.11 million).
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:49 PM   #418
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Yeah but WWE signed a deal with NBC which gave them a lot of money so that means WWE's product is good.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:53 PM   #419
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hmm so they were #3 overall, and #5 18-49.
They are #3 for viewership virtually every week. Usually behind football and sportscenter.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:57 PM   #420
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Yeah but WWE signed a deal with NBC which gave them a lot of money so that means WWE's product is good.
The key is understanding what is happening to the viewers. If they are still consuming WWE but in another manner, it's fine. If they completely left, it's not as fine.

That said, television as a whole is seeing viewership shrink, they key is understanding how WWE compares with the rest of cable. WWE ratings could decline every year but if they are declining slower than the rest of cable, their TV rights fees will increase.

The most important stat that is rarely talked about by anyone other than me is that they added a ton of new advertisers in the latest upfronts. That's the biggest driver of rights fees. At the end of the day you want to generate the most dollars.
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:30 PM   #421
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I don't care how much damn money they make as long as they put on a damn good show. Your the only one that talk about WWEs finances, no one else cares that KFC and Hardies are adverting on Raw.
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They are #3 for viewership virtually every week. Usually behind football and sportscenter.
It wasn't Sportscenter. They were behind a show called "Major Crimes".

But they dummy every competitor that isn't football. How can this be!?
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RAW used to be #2 until very recently which might explain where some of the lost RAW audience has been heading off to.

For some perspective, NFL lost around 4 million viewers this week because of the poor MNF matchup and yet the WWE barely capitalized on that pool if the number this week is still lower than 2 weeks ago. They gained 200,000 viewers on average from last week but are missing another 100,000 from the week prior.

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Hour one – 3,541,000 viewers
Hour two – 3,290,000 viewers
Hour three – 3,047,000 viewers
Average – 3,292,667 viewers
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They just decided to hit the reset button. That doesn't make it good writing, just understandable. And I dont think one angle being terrible means 'everything sucks'.

What I would recommend you do is look up Victor Newman vs Jack Abbott. And tell me there is 100% continuity between them being allies and enemies. The show those characters are on is the #1 daytime drama, and has been for years and years.
Now that you finally found it in you to give one of those awesome CyNick responses, let's break this down.

"I actually said in that thread that I thought it was lazy writing, but the issue was the talent screwed it up" is pretty much the most glaring example of how deep into the WWE apologist gimmick you are. Even when you can't think of an excuse to rationalize WWE's lazy writing, you still make it clear it was the talent's fault. You literally say "it's lazy writing but the issue was the talent screwed it up." What? A rational mind would say lazy writing is an issue. But even when admitting it, you try to pass off the blame as if it would all be fine if the talent could just perform the poorly written shit they're given well. Jesus.

And if Vince thinks that just dropping an intense feud that's been showcased and built for months on TV and having them become friends again between shows with no explanation is "understandable", he's not just out of touch in his old age, he's borderline retarded. And if you think it is, you are too. I won't even do the PC "Well, I guess we just have different opinions" thing. It's retarded. There's no two ways about it. Luckily, I DON'T think you actually believe that though and instead you're doing what you usually do which is try to rationalize the best you can put as little blame as possible on Vince/the writers for being inept.

"And I dont think one angle being terrible means 'everything sucks'."

No. My point with bringing it up is to try to find angles that are so out there in the "shitty writing" department that even you can't come up with a bullshit rationalization for it. This wasn't an isolated angle. It wasn't just a rare lapse of judgment that pushed them to do something insanely ridiculous with one angle. Lazy shit like that is the norm. See the Wade Barrett vignettes where he actually had a personality that stood out as a badass bareknuckle fighter and immediately came back as the paint-by-numbers chickenshit that every heel not named Brock Lesnar plays because the writers probably can't even spell the phrase "character depth". See Chris Jericho coming back after weeks of mysterious videos, not speaking, crying in the ring and then the big mystery of why all this was happening just... ending. See the start/stop pushes that happen with the entire roster and prevent anyone from gaining momentum over time.

When they try to write something with some substance, it ends up being the most poorly written clusterfuck of a story on television. Maybe sticking to something more simple they can sink their teeth into like "Nattie farts a lot" is the way to go. I remember one week she started farting. And then the situations where she would fart would get more uncomfortable. Just a brilliant story arch. 5 stars. I think I'd actually take some Russo-esque dumb ideas over no ideas at all. (Though to be fair to Vince Russo, I don't think any idea he ever had was as bad as a diva who has uncontrollable gas.)

And as far as the "Victor Newman vs Jack Abbott" thing, I have no idea what soap they're even from. It's odd that you seem to have a decent understanding of their story over the years considering you said all you watch is WWE, The Walking Dead and sports. Feel free to give a brief explanation but forgive me if I don't look up every little detail of the relationship between two people on a soap opera that's probably been on my entire life. I'd be willing to be it's not as egregious as the Bellas thing though. I'd be very surprised if they were wishing death on each other in one episode and then best friends the next without even an attempt at an explanation. Mainly because even daytime soaps have higher standards than that level of "derp dee derp" writing.
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I was really stoked about that specific Barrett return. Big fan of Barrett, but they definitely failed there
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They've dropped the ball with Barrett so many times. It's sad. He can talk, he can work, he's got good size. I really don't know what else they could want from the guy.

Shocked to find he's actually 35 years old already. So he's likely closer to retirement than he is to getting a main event push.
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He's english, doesn't really connect with the fans.
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The "Bad News" gimmick caught on, so they made him King of the Ring.
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Yeah, Barrett needs to do the whole "Bad News" thing again. People loved that!
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You're throwing out random things that Cornette apparently did. Do you have sources on this? Please please dont say the sheets or Cornette himself.

Ask Kevin Owens about Cornette as a booker/person in charge. Guys like you like and respect Owens, right?
You asked for things Cornette did and I gave them to you. Yes, Cornette is lying about the documented time he spent working for WWE. You are a hack troll and a cancer to logic.

And while I like Owens as a performer, he does seem like he would have been a twat to work with on the independent scene. I believe Cornette's side of that story more than Owens -- who I believe tells the truth as he sees it, but is just as stubborn as Corny and probably more of a mark for himself.
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At the end of the day Vince will be proven right. They are 3 black guys, basically playing over the top preachers, talking about positivity. They will be full fledged babyfaces at some point in 2016.
Wow. You cunt.
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Where I think he's full of shit is his access to inside information. I think (check that, I know with 100% certainty) his info is BS.
Lol, people talk to Meltzer. They've admitted to it. You troll cunt.
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Barrett and Sheamus should be feuding with The New Day over the Tag Team Titles right now. Barrett & Sheamus -- Bad News -- WWE Tag Team Champions.
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You cunt.


(you seem to have forgotten it that time.)
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Monday's WWE Raw television show (12/7) averaged 3.054 million viewers, according to Showbuzzdaily.com. Viewership was down from the 3.168 million average from last week (11/30).


Hour 1 = 3.270 million
Hour 2 = 3.042 million
Hour 3 = 2.850 million
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more info on the ratings:

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Monday's episode of WWE RAW is the second lowest audience for the show since permanently going to 3 hours in July of 2012. The audience is only 3% from the record-low 2.964 million viewers that the show averaged on November 23, 2015.
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So... was Raw shit on Monday?
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