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Old 09-16-2013, 08:42 PM   #721
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I hope Dexter makes it, I still love him.
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Was that the most useless U.S. marshall on a tv show ever or what. And as already mentioned, just makes no sense for Dexter to give Saxon to the police at that point.
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Old 09-16-2013, 11:08 PM   #723
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This has been quite the letdown. At first I thought my head was going to explode with this and Breaking Bad ending a week apart. Now I'm just waiting for the "meh" undercard next week to give way to the main event the following Sunday.

Iggy pretty much hit it on the nose. For the final season I thought the main bad was going to be someone from the past come back to haunt Dex. Who could it have been? I dunno. Just not invested in a build to end a series when most characters involved have been introduced this year.

And why the hell is Mosuka's daughter here??
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To show Masuka's growth as a person, he is now a "responsible dad".
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Also, hard to have the main bad be someone from the past when everyone from the past is dead.

Unless Astor and Cody turned out to be the main bad.
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That would have been pretty sweet actually. Like they both blame Dexter for their mom's death and have become total psychopaths who want to destroy Dexter, and then find out what Dexter really is, and they become even more psychopathic because of it.
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I just think the main plot for the final season should've just been Dexter on the run.

Have him get blamed for LaGuerta's murder, and he takes the fall to protect Deb and so he runs. Someone eventually puts all the pieces together about Dexter like LaGuerta did and we get a huge Miami vs Dexter chase, which would put Dexter back into his old trying not to get caught routine, rather than just nonchalantly meandering through the world killing whoever and whenever he wants. Deb could've been involved in the chase but keeps helping Dexter out and warning him of the police's plans. Then someone like Miller begins to get suspicious of Deb helping Dexter out, but Quinn defends her etc etc. Quinn could finally find Deb and Dexter talking together and realises he was wrong all along, and so Dexter kills Quinn out of necessity.

That's then the final straw for Deb who eventually sees the light and joins the chase for Dexter for real. Then at the end you could have a bunch of different options that would be pretty good. Dexter kills himself to protect Deb one last time/Deb kills Dexter and seemingly "becomes" him/Jamie Batista in a bikini for the last 10 minutes of the show.

Dunno, that's just off the top of my head now with little to no thought and nothing fleshed out but I'd be 5000% more interested in something like that than stuff with Vogel, Saxon, Vince's daughter, Elway, kid who was Dexters apprentice whose name I forgot, random detective that was in like 3 episodes who seemed smarter than every other member of the police on the show.
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To show Masuka's growth as a person, he is now a "responsible dad".
Glad to see him grow so much, so suddenly with a random introduction of a long lost daughter with zero depth in the final season. Was such an integral part of the show.

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Also, hard to have the main bad be someone from the past when everyone from the past is dead.

Unless Astor and Cody turned out to be the main bad.
Well....Yah. I just want to see Lila's tits again.
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Glad to see him grow so much, so suddenly with a random introduction of a long lost daughter with zero depth in the final season. Was such an integral part of the show.
Hey, the daughter has enough depth. (We saw her bewbs)
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I agree with basically all of the criticisms posted on the past page or so.

That all being said, I have been enjoying this season. I whole-heartedly feel that the show peaked during season 4 and has been treading water ever since. Also agree that season 2 (with a different ending) would have been a much more engaging final season to the show.

I don't have much else to add. Just feel like the show has been going through the motions the past couple years. When the series was first premiered it was such a novel and cool idea, the aura of the show was fresh and I loved every episode. Season 2 had some good drama and season 4 was one of my favourite television seasons ever.

Since then though the "main bad guy" of each season has been largely forgettable IMO. This season, I GET that they want to do the whole "Dexter is evolving" angle but it just isn't... I don't know, not really believable to me. I don't know if it's the writing or the acting or whatever it is but I'm just not buying Dexter as an emotional human being. Maybe I'm just so down on Hannah and as such I can't see her as being the catalyst to humanizing Dexter. Whatever the reason is, I feel this season doesn't strike as hard as it could/should have.


I still love the show, but I feel like I'm more infatuated with what it could have been as opposed to how it actually is. And I hate feeling like a giant wiener for criticizing, 'cause I really have enjoyed much of the series.
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Old 09-19-2013, 12:26 PM   #731
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Also, hard to have the main bad be someone from the past when everyone from the past is dead.

Unless Astor and Cody turned out to be the main bad.
I never read it, but in the novel weren't the kids more closer to Dexter in terms of being killers or something? I remember someone telling me that or reading it somewhere or something
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If I remember correctly, Cody was showing signs of being a nasty little bugger much like Dexter himself when he was young, and they were hinting at him being "like Dexter." I could be way off on that though, read the books a while back now.
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I think part of the problem is that Dexter and Hannah don't have much on-screen chemistry. The actress never made me like her whatsoever in her season or during this season. Their repertoire is boring together and they don't make a good fit. The only person I could have seen truly humanizing Dexter would have been Lumin, but she was too normal and moral to keep being around Dexter so it would have been a really one sided relationship.
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Isn't the reason Dexter kills in the books that he has been possessed by a space alien or something? I remember maybe reading something about that.

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Jesus, I never actually got as far as the third book where that's revealed apparently. Just looked it all up and the "dark passenger" is actually a spirit demon that possesses Dexter.
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Shit, I have a hard time getting into novels, if I read I enjoy reading about things or biographies/social commentary/philosophy type stuff but my love for the show has me tempted to maybe get the book(s)...

and Lock Jaw, that spoiler? for real?!
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No, apparently that one is false. James Doakes does not come back as a cyborg in the books.

I probably got the idea from seeing this image, and thought it was something that happened:
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Imagine if in the series finale, Dexter and Hannah are just about to get away.... they have seemingly overcome all obstacles... but then CYBORG JAMES DOAKES comes out of nowhere and is all "Surprise, Muthaf***a" and then it just goes to black and that is how the show ends.
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I would prefer that to the ending I'm imagining we are going to get.
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Old 09-22-2013, 04:46 AM   #746
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There have been spoilers out since the debut of this season. Honestly, none of them made much sense, and went with the obvious plot twists, that the old dectective knew all along who dexter was, that deb kills dex, that dex kills deb, blah blah blah...

but then. There was one batshit insane theme, that ran the course of four/five episodes. It started with Deb tying to kill dex, getting help, Hannah coming back, and Deb coming back to the police force while there is a manhunt for Hannah and ultimately dexter...I hate to say that every fucking detail in that scenario has come to pass...and if it holds true, you all will be some pissed motherfuckers at how this shit goes down tomorrow night.
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I haven't read any speculation at all about this series so I don't know who's been predicting what, but the only thing that would really piss me off is if there's a really "clean" ending; i.e. Dex and Hannah getting away and living their life in Argentina, Elway getting popped in the iairport, Deb and Quinn getting together and "living happily ever after", etc.

Dexter was never really pushed as a "redemption story" for the main character, so for them to really kind of half-assedly force that narrative in a subpar final season would really be disappointing.
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Not gonna spill any details, but heres an article.

http://www.examiner.com/article/more...nding-surfaces
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:59 PM   #749
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Let me be the first to say...I was wrong. I don't know how I feel about the way this ended.
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I liked the ending.
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After watching it again...it's fitting. It's so bittersweet, because this show could have been so much more. It makes sense that Dexter would go out this way.
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It's sorta like him having a revelation and reverting... I hope to see a movie or spin off some day.
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I am a sucker for happy endings. So even though they are usually the least interesting route to go, I pull for them every time.

So naturally, I was greatly saddened by the ending.

Loved the final shot, though, with the "broken lumberjack hobo Dexter" suddenly getting "that look" in his eyes like "tonight's the night".
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Fucking Debbbbb I can't take it. I knew it was inevitable but fuck I don't know man. Heart wrenching.

The finale was the best episode of this season, and probably one of the better episodes in a long time. I thought it was done pretty well. Fucking hate seeing Deb dead though. Man.
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It was a decent enough ending but still feel pretty underwhelmed for the most part. Honestly only feeling like it was a decent ending because I generally love series finales of shows no matter what happens, there's always a big feeling to the end of shows.
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Honestly, I think if it weren't for that final look at the camera from Dexter, I'd have really disliked the ending. Well, not even disliked it, just not cared. It was just so bland.
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Yea pretty bland. Felt rushed with everything happening so fast like an episode of 24. Like how did nobody see Dex carrying Deb's body into the boat. And Hannah running around town without a disguise, I mean she's only a wanted woman.
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Yeah, I mean sure you've got to give a little leeway to some minor things going unnoticed otherwise no tv plot would get anywhere, but they just cut so many corners with plot devices in this season that they wouldn't have in the early seasons. One of the great things about the show was its attention to detail and not letting anything slip by.

Also lol @ vince's daughters entire story just being that she showed up, showed her boobs and got high and nothing else.
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I think it was interesting that the whole rise to Dexter not needing to kill/being happier was a set up for him to realize that no matter what people around him are in danger and whenever he doesn't do "his part", people he loves get hurt or killed so he decided for the best. But I do wish this show was a few episodes longer or even a season.

Hoping the end meant that they really did leave open for continuation/spin off.
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I get that the hospital was "evacuating" and whatever, but how does one single person not notice some dude (who isn't a doctor/nurse) wheeling a body out of the hospital and carrying it away to his boat?
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