12-13-2011, 10:40 AM | #3761 |
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So whoever wins the East will probably get the 4th seed unless NO falls off a bit. That means that NYG/DAL will face Atlanta probably round 1.
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12-13-2011, 10:49 AM | #3762 |
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12-13-2011, 11:12 AM | #3763 |
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Scary part is, while it would still take a lot going their way...I'm not willing to totally dismiss the notion. Seems like they'll be mathematically eliminated this week if the Giants and Cowboys both win. But you just never know since the Skins nearly beat the Pats who are basically the same team as the Giants at this point (great offense, horrible secondary). Also, #CowboysInDecember
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12-13-2011, 11:16 AM | #3764 |
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Meanwhile, if the Giants can handle their business and win their next two...a Dallas loss to Philly in Week 16 would clinch the division for the Giants and render Week 17 meaningless.
Dallas stays alive if they beat the Eagles under any scenario though, even if they manage to lose to the Bucs this week. |
12-13-2011, 12:27 PM | #3765 |
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You guys are way overestimating the Eagles this year.
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12-13-2011, 12:46 PM | #3766 |
Inno Knows.
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Only way I'll accept them as out of it is when their head is cut off.
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12-13-2011, 02:37 PM | #3767 |
You can't teach that
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12-13-2011, 03:41 PM | #3768 |
quesque fuck?
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Flacco blows.
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12-13-2011, 03:54 PM | #3769 |
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12-13-2011, 03:57 PM | #3770 |
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12-13-2011, 04:08 PM | #3771 |
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12-13-2011, 04:20 PM | #3772 |
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That's about when half the Ravens fans in the stadium got up and left.
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12-13-2011, 06:16 PM | #3773 |
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So the NFL decided to actually suspended James Harrison a game and he responded on Twitter with a "lol" tweet.
Also ended up being the 1st ever suspension based on a hit and not resulting in an ejection since the new hitting rules went into place. Suh ended up getting suspended due to getting ejected from a game and not the actual nut stomp which only added to his ban. |
12-13-2011, 06:20 PM | #3774 |
Von Killer
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I'd suspend him for longer on the grounds that he refuses to fucking learn. Consistently flagged and then bitches about it publicly, never admitting he was wrong. Always the victim. If you can't learn to play safe or at least own up to your mistakes I have no place for you in this league. That hit on McCoy was totally unacceptable. The entirety of his body was available to hit and you go high? Get the fuck out
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12-13-2011, 11:13 PM | #3775 |
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Dunno why offensive linemen don't cut block guys like Harrison more often. Just take his knee out and you've protected your quarterback and many more. Problem solved.
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12-14-2011, 07:28 PM | #3776 | |
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12-14-2011, 07:40 PM | #3777 |
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12-14-2011, 09:21 PM | #3778 |
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12-14-2011, 09:23 PM | #3779 |
Von Killer
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What? Wrong game. Palmer started the whole game against Denver. He had been on the team for a little over 2 weeks and even had a bye week the week before to get ready for Denver
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12-14-2011, 09:34 PM | #3780 | |
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Jones-Drew Forte Fred Jackson Gore Lynch Steven Jackson Ray Rice do you watch football??? |
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12-14-2011, 09:34 PM | #3781 |
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12-14-2011, 09:40 PM | #3782 | |
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12-14-2011, 09:41 PM | #3783 | |
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I feel like all of them have had maybe a few good years or been injured a lot, but nothing to qualify them as "franchise." Jones-Drew leads the league in rushing with what, 1220 yards and three weeks left? Nothing special. |
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12-14-2011, 09:43 PM | #3784 |
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You're forgetting pretty much everyone is pass happy and doesn't care about running the football..and if they run the football they have like 2 or 3 guys.
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12-15-2011, 12:04 AM | #3785 | |
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adrian peterson... i dont need to say anything about him frank gore has had 1000 yard seasons 5 of the 7 years hes been in the league forte, rice and mccoy have been around for about the same amount of time. 3-4 seasons? all the greats had to go through a couple seasons before they ended being thought of as the best. and since they have been in the league, they have had consistently good seasons... when was there really any more elite rb carrying the ball in a season than there is this year? not to mention hindsight is 20-20 with a lot of these guys. |
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12-15-2011, 12:05 AM | #3786 |
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omg shut the fuck up you neurotic one man freak show... i was just naming off a random list of really good running backs to make a point, and i even left off a couple awesome ones shut the fuck up
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12-15-2011, 01:41 AM | #3787 | |
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/73...rsday-schedule
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12-15-2011, 02:18 AM | #3788 | |
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I think a lot of that has to do with teams that base their entire offense on one player. Usually teams who have a guy with a monstrous amount of rushing yards are pretty average/poor teams in general. What was the last team that went to a Super Bowl based on their running back having a really good year? The Seattle Seahawks with Shaun Alexander is the last one that comes to mind, but they also had the best offensive line in the league and a very agile defense. The teams that have players who yield high rushing yards are teams like Jacksonville, St. Louis, Tennessee that have little else going for them offensively. Obviously you still have good teams that have solid running games like Houston and New Orleans and San Francisco, but the position, in particular when it comes to having a "franchise running back," appears to be less vital than it has been in past years. Last edited by DrA; 12-15-2011 at 06:20 AM. |
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12-15-2011, 09:58 AM | #3789 |
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How is Steven Jackson not a franchise back? WOW.
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12-15-2011, 10:18 AM | #3790 |
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12-15-2011, 10:40 AM | #3791 |
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32 Starting RBs back in october: Franchise or Not
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12-15-2011, 11:03 AM | #3792 |
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So basically you arent a Franchise RB unless you play for a Super Bowl team?
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12-15-2011, 11:24 AM | #3793 | |
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12-15-2011, 11:34 AM | #3794 |
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I will retract the FAR better statement, but Williams has been better and has better career numbers than Lynch, and also isnt one bad day away from a year suspension.
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12-15-2011, 11:47 AM | #3795 |
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How can Forte have been "relegated to a small role" when he had 997 yards before he got injured with 5 games left? And as much as I love McGahee, no he isn't Denver's franchise back. He's 30 and in his first year here, and to be honest probably won't last long enough to play out his 4 year deal, as injury prone as he's been this season. Yet he gets a basically a maybe while Fred Jackson gets a no? OK
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12-15-2011, 11:55 AM | #3796 |
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Had a post written in response to that list, but Hanso & FS covered my bases.
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12-15-2011, 01:04 PM | #3797 |
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I'd argue Rashard Mendenhall on the Steelers would be their franchise RB considering he's rushed over 1000+ yards the last 2 seasons and might have a chance this year even though he could end up with less carries than previous seasons.
BenJarvus Green-Ellis is correct even though he started out on pace to have a career-high, BB tends to abandon the run at the slightest problem the offense has regardless of the score. Forte should be a yes considering how badly the Bears have declined once he went out along with Cutler. He already was close to 1000 yards before getting hurt and the previous 3 years managed to rush for 1000+ or very close to it. |
12-15-2011, 06:07 PM | #3798 | |
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As far as Forte goes, his number of carries declined in each season from 316 in his rookie season to 237 last year and 203 in 12 games this year. He was even used as a receiver each year less, from 63 catches in his rookie year to 51 last year and 52 this year. |
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12-15-2011, 06:36 PM | #3799 |
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Matt Forte's carries have been in the top 10 2 of 3 seasons and EASILY would be about top 5 this season if he hadn't missed the last two games. His 316 in 2008 was good for 4th in the NFL, and his 237 in 2009 was 8th. Assuming he'd have gotten about 15 carries per game the last two weeks, his total would've been 233. One short of Frank Gore and Ray Rice, two of your franchise backs, and being tied for 5th most in the NFL.
As far as his receiving stats, do you actually research your bullshit or do you just look at things and form an opinion? Wait, don't answer that, we already know. Bears' Top 3 Receivers Since 2008 2008: 1. Forte, 63 2. Olsen, 54 3. Hester, 51 2009: 1. Olsen, 60 2. Forte and Hester, 57 2010: 1. Forte and Knox, 51 3. Bennett, 46 2011: 1. Forte, 52 2. Knox, 36 3. Williams, 26 Looks like the definition of a franchise player to me |
12-15-2011, 06:51 PM | #3800 | |
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he accounted for over 50% of their offense by himself this season oh and by the way would have more yards from scrimmage than your beloved ray rice if he didnt get hurt a couple weeks back. in fact he was leading the league in rushing too at the time if im not mistaken. They brought in marion barber because they wanted a solid backup and a change of pace back. He barely touched the ball the entire season until forte's injury. Have you watched espn at all this season? everytime the bears are brought up, the analysts are screeming to pay the guy based on how well he plays. And hes been consistent like this for 3 seasons |
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