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Old 03-03-2006, 07:04 PM   #41
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I heard this one will be the last one for awhile.
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:12 PM   #42
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Raimi has said that he'd be up for as many as six, but I'm with Paul. I think this will be the last for a while. Let Toby, Kirsten, et al go off and do their own thing for a couple of years, then if the interest is still there, bring 'em all back for another series.

Not like they'll ever run out of villains (although I guess if they keep killing off one per movie, they might).
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Old 03-05-2006, 05:48 PM   #43
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If Rami gets his way and does 6 movies, look for them to pan out this way:

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Sandman (main baddie)
Green Goblin II/Hobgoblin (appearance)
Eddie Brock (appearance)
Quinten Beck (appearance)

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Lizard (main baddie)
Venom (appearance)
Green Goblin II/Hobgoblin (appearance)

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Sinister Six (main baddies)

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Finish SS and GGII/Hobgoblin storylines
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Old 03-06-2006, 11:17 AM   #44
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If Rami gets his way and does 6 movies, look for them to pan out this way:

3 -
Sandman (main baddie)
Green Goblin II/Hobgoblin (appearance)
Eddie Brock (appearance)
Quinten Beck (appearance)

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Lizard (main baddie)
Venom (appearance)
Green Goblin II/Hobgoblin (appearance)

5 -
Sinister Six (main baddies)

6 -
Finish SS and GGII/Hobgoblin storylines
Doing a Sinister Six movie would make more sense in the sixth movie. Just promotional thinking, there.

I just wanna see Venom.
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Old 03-06-2006, 07:47 PM   #45
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Id like to see the Maximum Carnage Storyline. Venom was a great villian But Carnage was just plain bad ass
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I love the poster. looks awesome

But why the fuck is Sandman in the movie? Sttupid choice IMO. Should have been just Venom
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:21 PM   #47
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Id like to see the Maximum Carnage Storyline. Venom was a great villian But Carnage was just plain bad ass
It could work only if it is Spidey and Venom vs Carnage
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:23 PM   #48
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It could work only if it is Spidey and Venom vs Carnage
Yeah that would be better.

I'm really wondering how this one is going to work out.

Cause i'm really hoping they'll put in Venom as one of the MAIN villians.
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:36 PM   #49
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IGN had a pic up of whats his name as the Sandman awhile back, i dunno if its still up
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If Rami gets his way and does 6 movies, look for them to pan out this way:

3 -
Sandman (main baddie)
Green Goblin II/Hobgoblin (appearance)
Eddie Brock (appearance)
Quinten Beck (appearance)

4 -
Lizard (main baddie)
Venom (appearance)
Green Goblin II/Hobgoblin (appearance)

5 -
Sinister Six (main baddies)

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Finish SS and GGII/Hobgoblin storylines
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Old 03-11-2006, 03:25 PM   #51
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Old 03-11-2006, 04:55 PM   #52
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source?

His sources are a few quotes that Raimi wanted to do a Six Part series and a mention of wanting to do the sinister Six, the "interview" that Wadding posted, and filling in the blanks himself.

I'd frankly rather see him murder Venom/Carnage than murder the Sinister Six though, so I hope we see that over the SS.

Not to be too bitchy, but Raimi's done something I didn't expect--He made a comic book movie MORE 2-D than the comics themselves were.

Spider-Man was kind of the prototype for the hero who was more than just a monotone, spandex clad, badass. He had a life that was immediately identifiable with, and that didn't take a backseat to his Super-Hero career. Before everyone was doing it, Spider-Man was.

Raimi pays lip service to the elements that really made Spider-Man what it was, but he doesn't capture it. The first movie did an okay job (Since his origin MANDATES it), but the second one didn't.

Carnage needs little depth or introduction or even a major point of interest. He's Jason Vorhees with a big mouth, or Freddie Krueger sans the finesse. He'll do well at the box offices, make a lot of money, and avoid killing interesting characters (Except PArker and Venom).
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His sources are a few quotes that Raimi wanted to do a Six Part series and a mention of wanting to do the sinister Six, the "interview" that Wadding posted, and filling in the blanks himself.


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Old 03-12-2006, 10:03 AM   #54
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*******MAJOR POSSIBLE SPOILERS********









There is a rumor going around, that I heard from my friend (already sounds like bullshit, I know, but he's a huge spiderman geek ,so I believe he's heard it. ) That one plan is to just say the Venom costume is a government weapon/Oscorp creation, instead of an alien, to make things easier. Also, Venom and Spiderman will only have 1 confrontation, at the very end of the movie, and during their battle, Harry, as the green goblin, will save, and possibly get killed in the process, of saving Spiderman from Venom.

Personaly, I think that sounds great, especially if they only do 3 movies. It saves the trouble of having the whole Green Goblin/Hob Goblin thing redone. Granted, it's different from the comics, but if it's only a trilogy for now, I think it would work great.





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Old 03-12-2006, 11:08 AM   #55
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That rumour is based not around any real substance, but is rather taken from Ultimate Spider-Man (And slightly modified to fit the current series).
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The bit about Venom, not the part involving Harry.
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I love Ultimate Spider-Man, and I love Venom in any incarnation, be it 616 or Ultimate.

However, if they do it, I hope they model Venom after the 616 one. Something about Ultimate Venom disturbs me, although I don't quite know what it is.
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It could work only if it is Spidey and Venom vs Carnage
Which would be ill as fuck if they had a movie with venom in it first, then next movie or so, the two put diffrences aside and team up, leading in to the maximium carnage storyline......what an amazing comic series that was when i was a kid.
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Which would be ill as fuck if they had a movie with venom in it first, then next movie or so, the two put diffrences aside and team up, leading in to the maximium carnage storyline......what an amazing comic series that was when i was a kid.
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I love Ultimate Spider-Man, and I love Venom in any incarnation, be it 616 or Ultimate.

However, if they do it, I hope they model Venom after the 616 one. Something about Ultimate Venom disturbs me, although I don't quite know what it is.
Ultimate Venom sucked.
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I have a feeling Venom will NOT have the alien origin. As the last two bad-guys really were experiments gone wrong; having the suit be a creation of science seems to be the sensible route for the movie series. Sandman will obvious take that route as well.

I doubt we'll see Cargnage in a Spider-Man movie.

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Raimi pays lip service to the elements that really made Spider-Man what it was, but he doesn't capture it. The first movie did an okay job (Since his origin MANDATES it), but the second one didn't.
The second movie was as long as it was because we're getting into Peter's life as Peter Parker, not Spider-Man. Add to that an entire section where Parker retires from being Spider-Man completely until Doc Ock gives him the motivation to swing into action.

Raimi did a better job at portraying normal life over vigilance than say... Tim Burton portrayed vigilance over normal life with Batman. People were interested in Peter's segments than the Spider-Man action scenes; which is saying alot for a superhero film. You did see Dare Devil, did you?

On a past note, I think Mysterio would make for a better movie villain than Carnage. Raimi likes villains that play into the overall feel of the movie's plot; and what the heck type of movie would Carnage fit in that'll never be rated R (hence my earlier thought)?
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Note I said "pays lip service to it, but doesn't capture it."

Might I be implying here, that the elements in the second movie fail to actually capture Parker?

Come on, 90% of the social elements of that movie were total shit. Comparing it to Daredevil, which was shit period, isn't saying anything. You might as well say it was better than Catwoman or the Hulk. Or Captain America.
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Note I said "pays lip service to it, but doesn't capture it."

Might I be implying here, that the elements in the second movie fail to actually capture Parker?

Come on, 90% of the social elements of that movie were total shit. Comparing it to Daredevil, which was shit period, isn't saying anything. You might as well say it was better than Catwoman or the Hulk. Or Captain America.
Well, I guess comparing movie Peter to comic Peter; who has years of volumes to exploring his character, is totally fair. The movie version is being quite faithful to the Peter we know compared to the fallout of the "Evolve of Die" fiasco (The Other), which is just playing with the character. And maybe comparing it to DD was laughable, since they're two Marvel superhero movies; what was I thinking?

Spider-Man 2 was well done, although the chocolate cake scene was odd placement.
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Hang on, wasn't Doc Oct in the SS?

How's that one gonna work then?
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How's that one gonna work then?
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We never saw Doc Oc die, we only saw him slowly floating to the bottom of the ocean whilst being crushed by a massive machine, all the while still wearing those huge, metallic octopus arms.

But that doesn't mean he's dead.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:03 PM   #69
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It happened when Ben Reilly was fighting Carnage. The symbiote basically decided it liked Reilly and attached to him.
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Old 03-19-2006, 05:13 AM   #71
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Looks very cool, but if you look closely at the outside of his left forearm, you can see where there person who did this left some red on his arm. Its to bright to be blood, so I'm assuming its fake
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:39 AM   #77
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His injuries look like the ones he had in part two. And the setting looks like Harry's place (as in after he found out Peter was Spidey). I'll check it out myself. But yeah, cool photoshop if it's fake.
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Id like to see the Maximum Carnage Storyline. Venom was a great villian But Carnage was just plain bad ass
I'd like to see them do the new avengers "breakout" storyline, where the sentry takes carnage into space and rips him in half.

Don't know how many times I'm going to go through this debate, but what the hell.

Venom was a great villain, yes. And yes, carnage had a pretty bad ass look. As far as 90's standards go, anyhow. But that's all he had. He was just a crazy guy with a symbiote. No depth whatsoever, where as Venom's backstory made you look at the character in different ways.

Plus, Carnage would not be a good choice for the movie just because very few people will like him. Most hardcore comic readers hate carnage and rejoiced when he was killed off recently. Then there are the people who don't read comics, but go to see it just because it's a summer blockbuster. They would probably recognize Venom before Carnage. Secondly, this movie would come out after Venom has appeared. So your average movie-goer would see this as an unoriginal and lazy effort at a new villain(which carnage actually is) unless they drasticly changed his origin and powers. And that will make all of you upset.

And who are you? I'm guessing most of the people in here who support Carnage, are people who used to read a little bit of comics in the 90's. Mostly mainstream stuff. But you havn't picked anything up since. You just remember carnage because back then you didn't need great characters with great stories. That's what all that indy garbage is for. You just needed a cool looking villain. Not even an original one. So all you ever read was crap, but because there was nothing else, you thought it was the golden standard.
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I'd like to see them do the new avengers "breakout" storyline, where the sentry takes carnage into space and rips him in half.

Don't know how many times I'm going to go through this debate, but what the hell.

Venom was a great villain, yes. And yes, carnage had a pretty bad ass look. As far as 90's standards go, anyhow. But that's all he had. He was just a crazy guy with a symbiote. No depth whatsoever, where as Venom's backstory made you look at the character in different ways.

Plus, Carnage would not be a good choice for the movie just because very few people will like him. Most hardcore comic readers hate carnage and rejoiced when he was killed off recently. Then there are the people who don't read comics, but go to see it just because it's a summer blockbuster. They would probably recognize Venom before Carnage. Secondly, this movie would come out after Venom has appeared. So your average movie-goer would see this as an unoriginal and lazy effort at a new villain(which carnage actually is) unless they drasticly changed his origin and powers. And that will make all of you upset.

And who are you? I'm guessing most of the people in here who support Carnage, are people who used to read a little bit of comics in the 90's. Mostly mainstream stuff. But you havn't picked anything up since. You just remember carnage because back then you didn't need great characters with great stories. That's what all that indy garbage is for. You just needed a cool looking villain. Not even an original one. So all you ever read was crap, but because there was nothing else, you thought it was the golden standard.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Well, yeah I can actually; but got the point down. Carnage just isn't movie worthy, story or otherwise. Mysterio on the other hand...
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