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Old 01-25-2015, 09:08 AM   #161
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In response to Franchise I just want to say that you, sir, are the very definition of bias. You keep spouting out that "there are more guys on the roster than Bryan", but what that actually boils down to is "I don't like Bryan and I want to see my favorite superstars pushed more".

Every reason you've given for Bryan being unworthy is purely based on your own hatred of him, and on your own bias toward other wrestlers. Ziggler, much as I love him, is no better suited to be "face of the company" than Bryan. If Bryan isn't face of the company material then Dolph certainly isn't. Same thing goes for Wyatt, Cesaro, etc.

You've even admitted it yourself that you watch wrestling out of nostalgia. It's time to face facts, Jack. The WWE isn't a static thing. New stars need to be born, and those new stars will never live up to your standards because you're wearing rose tinted nostalgia glasses that will always make your favorites from the past seem better (even though they aren't).

I mean for Christ's sake you keep saying Sting vs Triple H should and WILL be the main event at 'Mania, but it won't. I honestly don't care how much you THINK it will, it won't, period. It will be a major selling point and one of the main events of 'Mania, but it will not be THE main event of 'Mania. Sting vs Triple H isn't that big a deal with WWE's current fanbase. Most kids don't even know who the hell Sting is. This match will be second banana to the title match and you can bank on that.

As for Bryan being done when the Authority storyline is over that's horse shit. First and foremost I'd like to point out that Authority storylines are a dime a dozen in pro-wrestling. Do you honestly believe that when the Authority is gone they'll stay gone? If so you seriously need to go back and watch some Network stuff because there's been an evil authority figure in wrestling almost consistently since the attitude era. GMs, COOs, CEOs, McMahons, whatever they've all been there nonstop and will continue to be. Even if Triple H and Steph are done after 'Mania there will be someone else in no time to fill the void. So even if Bryan were only capable of that one dynamic he'll always have that one dynamic to play off of. However, to say he can't do other things proves that you've either not been paying attention to him or are just too bias to admit you're wrong. Bryan has more than proven his range since his MitB win. I won't argue that he's a "Legend" because he's not (well, not yet), but the guy is every bit on the level of a Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, or Bret Hart. Given a few more years he could even reach "light" legend status like those guys have. He'll never be a Hogan or Rock, but he can be and is an Angle or Hart easily. To say he'll flounder out in a year or two like you have is purely opinion, and purely bias.
Thats what I'm talking about, Franchise you almost make it sound like none of us remember or experenced the Attitude era we do and we did, which is why so many of us can still say Bryan is fucking awesome. Hes not just the best we could find in an era of utter shite hes legitimately a badass likeable superstar in his own right we're basically saying yea we can stack him against our heros of yester year and he's still the goods.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:08 AM   #162
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Ah hell with it. Cena wins the title, Orton wins Rumble. Cena/Orton A bazzillion and one happens.

That's the worst. Unless Cena is heel... which ain't ever happening.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:48 AM   #163
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Cena wins match by pinning Lesnar while Rollins is out of the ring. Rollins clocks Cena with the briefcase cashes in and is pinned due to interference from Orton.

Meanwhile the Rock wins the RR after pinning Reigns

WM 31
Rock vs Cena
Sting/Orton vs HHH/Rollins
Brock vs Undertaker
Daniel Bryan vs Rusev
Divas fluff match
Wyatt vs Ambrose
Reigns wins the Andre the Giant memorial
Ascension vs Either the Dudleys or the Brotherhood
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:36 PM   #164
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Cena wins match by pinning Lesnar while Rollins is out of the ring. Rollins clocks Cena with the briefcase cashes in and is pinned due to interference from Orton.

Meanwhile the Rock wins the RR after pinning Reigns

WM 31
Rock vs Cena
Sting/Orton vs HHH/Rollins
Brock vs Undertaker
Daniel Bryan vs Rusev
Divas fluff match
Wyatt vs Ambrose
Reigns wins the Andre the Giant memorial
Ascension vs Either the Dudleys or the Brotherhood
Pinning him?

But yeah, Rock winning the Royal Rumble would legit be the worst thing.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:39 PM   #165
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:09 PM   #166
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Rock being in the rumble to get eliminated by Rusev would be awesome.
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:17 PM   #167
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Kinda wanna see Rock vs Bray Wyatt at WrestleMania all of a sudden.
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:36 PM   #168
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Brays promos would be absolutely beautiful.
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:50 PM   #169
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Thats what I'm talking about, Franchise you almost make it sound like none of us remember or experenced the Attitude era we do and we did, which is why so many of us can still say Bryan is fucking awesome. Hes not just the best we could find in an era of utter shite hes legitimately a badass likeable superstar in his own right we're basically saying yea we can stack him against our heros of yester year and he's still the goods.
No wrestling fan/purist worth their salt would claim that Bryan is on par with the likes of Hart or Angle or even Benoit.

Bryan has skills but his physical stature/strength etc or lack of, results in him getting injured too regularly and chances are it won't be too long before he picks up another injury and worse still, perhaps has to call it a day.

I stand by my opinions, views, bias whatever you want to call it. Bryan isn't that good and certainly isn't the best of his generation and had Edge not retired or Punk not quit, he would be further down the pecking order.

Wade Barrett on the other hand has the ingredients to be a major star.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:15 PM   #170
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You're aware Angle and Benoit had histories of injury problems, right? Angle was driven out of WWE because of his neck problems. Benoit missed a year with a neck injury.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:56 PM   #171
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No wrestling fan/purist worth their salt would claim that Bryan is on par with the likes of Hart or Angle or even Benoit.

Bryan has skills but his physical stature/strength etc or lack of, results in him getting injured too regularly and chances are it won't be too long before he picks up another injury and worse still, perhaps has to call it a day.

I stand by my opinions, views, bias whatever you want to call it. Bryan isn't that good and certainly isn't the best of his generation and had Edge not retired or Punk not quit, he would be further down the pecking order.

Wade Barrett on the other hand has the ingredients to be a major star.
Dolph is probably a concussion or two away from retirement while Barrett had been running neck and neck with Misterio as to who as spent the least amount of time in the ring over the past 2 years so really neither one of them are anyone they want to seriously invest in for a bit.

As for Bryan I think you are right about punk quitting being the reason why they bothered doing anything serious with him but I really don't believe we have had the opportunity to see how good he really is in the WWE yet and hope his injury shortening his carreer will be the only t hing he will be remembered for
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Old 01-25-2015, 08:00 PM   #172
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Dolph is probably a concussion or two away from retirement while Barrett had been running neck and neck with Misterio as to who as spent the least amount of time in the ring over the past 2 years so really neither one of them are anyone they want to seriously invest in for a bit.

As for Bryan I think you are right about punk quitting being the reason why they bothered doing anything serious with him but I really don't believe we have had the opportunity to see how good he really is in the WWE yet and hope his injury shortening his carreer will be the only t hing he will be remembered for
As I keep saying my sentiments against Bryan are not set in stone and may well change over time. But if he really is the best this period of wrestling has to offer then wrestling really has declined in quality.
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