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Old 11-19-2006, 08:19 PM   #1
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Since there's a movie coming out, I thought I'd ask in here. Anyone read the books? I'm wondering if they're worth a shit, since they seem to be hot currently.

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”

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Old 11-19-2006, 08:28 PM   #2
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There was this book awards show on TV last week. Won an award or two. But the movie reunites Jeremy Irons and John Malkovich. Which is a +.

But in my opinion, It may give Harry Potter and L.O.T.R. a run for their money. Trailer is pretty good as well.
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Old 11-19-2006, 08:50 PM   #3
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I enjoyed the first book (havn't read any others), but I don't think the kid is the greatest author ever or anything. That said, since it was a rather simple style of writing, I think it will transition pretty well into a movie.
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Old 11-20-2006, 02:11 AM   #4
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Saw the trailer at casino royale. Looks pretty badass.
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:58 PM   #5
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Looks like a typical stupid, CGI fest fantasy film that is in style since Lord of the Rings came out.
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Old 11-21-2006, 04:28 PM   #6
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Looks very shit.

Another film with Irons, another film with dragons, another few years later....its just a CGI evolved D&D piece of shit.
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Old 11-21-2006, 07:54 PM   #7
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I thought this was just like one of those shitty attempts at fantasy concepts, like "The Covenant", but if it's got Irons and Malkovich involved it could be something good.

Kane Knight's interested, so I'm going to assume there is some substance attached to this shit. Might check it out.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:11 PM   #9
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I started reading this, and can confirm what pretty much everyone else's statement of "childlike writing." I'm gonna keep reading, but unlike other "children's" books, I find it more a chore to actually sit down and read it.

Then again, I'm only like 40 pages in, hoping it picks up some.
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:06 PM   #10
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I don't know, I never read it, and don't know if I can really enjoy a book that is easy enough for a 7 year old to read and understand
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Does anyone find the book that simple though.
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:24 PM   #12
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Looks rather simple to me. A couple of large words. Writing's rather blah.

However, a lot of "Children's Books" are enjoyed by adults.
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I suppose its not going to hurt yo read it.
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The trailer shocked me with how good it looked. It looks like this could be the next Harry Potter. Or atleast Harry Potter like movie for those who think they are cooler than Harry Potter.

Looks like a good movie and will shock me if it doesnt do good when it hits.
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I started reading this, and can confirm what pretty much everyone else's statement of "childlike writing."
Well........the kid was like 15 when he started writing it.
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Check out this outline of the plot of Eragon....or should I say Star Wars? (spoilers obviously but who gives a shit)

A boy of foggy origins lives with his uncle in a remote place of a vast empire headed by an evil Emperor and his right hand man, who was once prominent in an ancient order of guardians with mystical powers.

Through fate or luck, depending on your point of view, this boy comes into the possession of an object vital to a rebellion against the Empire; this object was inadvertently sent to him by a princess in the rebellion, who had attempted to send said object to an old man who once belonged to the same order of guardians as the Emperor’s right-hand man.

This boy seeks the old man to learn of the ways of this ancient order, but eventually has to return to his uncle’s farm, which, the boy finds, has been destroyed by fire, and his uncle killed. The boy then sets off with the old hermit, who also gives him a sword which belonged to his father. As they travel, they train. The boy meets up with a rogue who is full of surprises, but turns out to be fiercely loyal, for all his proclaimed selfishness. The boy also begins "seeing" a beautiful woman imprisoned and in need of help.

The boy decides that he needs to rescue her, even though he doesn't know her; further, he thinks of her only as beautiful (Luke's first words are, "Who is she? She's beautiful?" Eragon can't stop thinking about her beauty). Long story short, the old hermit dies to protect the boy, the boy and the rogue help the beautiful damsel escape.

They then set off to the rebellion to give important information and return the object which the princess had sent the boy. They were followed by the Empire, and prepare for a giant battle that will either save the rebellion or annihilate them.

The boy proves his worth with heroics during the battle, but his crowning achievement is his destruction of a noun of much power that has the ability to destroy lots of things. The boy is aided in this by one of his friends, who arrives at precisely the right moment.
The boy is lauded a hero.

The boy has a hallucination of a powerful master who can teach him more of the ancient order. The boy travels to the powerful master to learn the ways of the ancient order's mystical power. While there, he grows very powerful. While he is away, the Rebellion regroups in a new area.

Just when the boy is on a roll with his training, and has grown very powerful, he has a vision of his friends in great danger. He decides he must go to help them. His master warns him not to go. The boy promises that he will return. He leaves.

He finds his friends just in time and is able to distract the enemy so that his friends will remain safe. He finds out that his father was the right-hand man of the Emperor--his father was the one who betrayed the ancient order and helped kill them.

The boy is shocked and ultimately defeated, but not killed. He finds out that someone dear to him has been taken by evil people, and promises to find this person
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The trailer shocked me with how good it looked. It looks like this could be the next Harry Potter. Or atleast Harry Potter like movie for those who think they are cooler than Harry Potter.

Looks like a good movie and will shock me if it doesnt do good when it hits.
What looks "good" about it? The adverts have almost no substance.

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Well........the kid was like 15 when he started writing it.
Golly, really? That's not like the first thing I ever heard about the book!

There's such a thing as polish, and people called editors, you know.

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Check out this outline of the plot of Eragon....or should I say Star Wars? (spoilers obviously but who gives a shit)

A boy of foggy origins lives with his uncle in a remote place of a vast empire headed by an evil Emperor and his right hand man, who was once prominent in an ancient order of guardians with mystical powers.

Through fate or luck, depending on your point of view, this boy comes into the possession of an object vital to a rebellion against the Empire; this object was inadvertently sent to him by a princess in the rebellion, who had attempted to send said object to an old man who once belonged to the same order of guardians as the Emperor’s right-hand man.

This boy seeks the old man to learn of the ways of this ancient order, but eventually has to return to his uncle’s farm, which, the boy finds, has been destroyed by fire, and his uncle killed. The boy then sets off with the old hermit, who also gives him a sword which belonged to his father. As they travel, they train. The boy meets up with a rogue who is full of surprises, but turns out to be fiercely loyal, for all his proclaimed selfishness. The boy also begins "seeing" a beautiful woman imprisoned and in need of help.

The boy decides that he needs to rescue her, even though he doesn't know her; further, he thinks of her only as beautiful (Luke's first words are, "Who is she? She's beautiful?" Eragon can't stop thinking about her beauty). Long story short, the old hermit dies to protect the boy, the boy and the rogue help the beautiful damsel escape.

They then set off to the rebellion to give important information and return the object which the princess had sent the boy. They were followed by the Empire, and prepare for a giant battle that will either save the rebellion or annihilate them.

The boy proves his worth with heroics during the battle, but his crowning achievement is his destruction of a noun of much power that has the ability to destroy lots of things. The boy is aided in this by one of his friends, who arrives at precisely the right moment.
The boy is lauded a hero.

The boy has a hallucination of a powerful master who can teach him more of the ancient order. The boy travels to the powerful master to learn the ways of the ancient order's mystical power. While there, he grows very powerful. While he is away, the Rebellion regroups in a new area.

Just when the boy is on a roll with his training, and has grown very powerful, he has a vision of his friends in great danger. He decides he must go to help them. His master warns him not to go. The boy promises that he will return. He leaves.

He finds his friends just in time and is able to distract the enemy so that his friends will remain safe. He finds out that his father was the right-hand man of the Emperor--his father was the one who betrayed the ancient order and helped kill them.

The boy is shocked and ultimately defeated, but not killed. He finds out that someone dear to him has been taken by evil people, and promises to find this person
You make it sound as though Lucas himself had an original thought in that entire first trilogy.
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Last year I bought my daughter (12 at the time) the second book. She didn't really like it. She told me just a couple weeks ago that I had gotten her the second book first, not the first book. So I think I'll buy her the First book so she can give it another chance.
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Last year I bought my daughter (12 at the time) the second book. She didn't really like it. She told me just a couple weeks ago that I had gotten her the second book first, not the first book. So I think I'll buy her the First book so she can give it another chance.
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How the hell would I have known there was more than one book?
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Doesn't Eldest list itself as the sequel to another book?
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Anyway, Eragon picked up after that whole forty pages. It reads easier, and it's sure more interesting. I almost tripled my reading in a day. The movie may still blow, though.
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Doesn't Eldest list itself as the sequel to another book?
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How the hell would I have known there was more than one book?
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:20 AM   #25
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Yes I should research every Xmas present before buying it. You got me. I'm a terrible father, no way this problem could ever be resolved. I stand humbly in your presence, awaiting judgment.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:23 AM   #26
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Nah. Just research the presents with prequels.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:55 PM   #27
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Yes I should research every Xmas present before buying it. You got me. I'm a terrible father, no way this problem could ever be resolved. I stand humbly in your presence, awaiting judgment.
Thats what I do.

...I have no life.
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Old 12-08-2006, 04:12 PM   #28
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I think we should kick him in the balls for the transgression against man and nature.

But not God. Because God don't believe in no satanic DVDs...
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:56 PM   #29
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It's a halfway decent movie. Not terrible as I previously stated it would be.
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Although it does feel like the author opened up a medical dictionary and started naming towns and words after venereal diseases.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:52 AM   #31
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Might check this out today. I love medieval shits.
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Old 12-18-2006, 12:40 AM   #32
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I went and saw this, only because I'm a Jeremy Irons and John Malkovich fan. I was miserable throughout most of it cause of all the kids going crazy all around me. I'd probably enjoy it even more when it hits DVD. However, I'm hearing mixed reviews from viewers and top critics saying that the movie is nothing like the book. Can someone who read and went and saw this confirm?

NOTE: If you should go see this movie, see it late, or during a weekday when everybody is at school.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:27 PM   #34
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The movie is almost nothing like the book. I will confirm that. Much of the story is pared out, and they added in points for the Hell of it. The entire final fight has sweet fuck all to do with the book, aisde from the fact that Eragon's involved, and they spent 10 minutes of time building up the King, who was never really there in the book in this one...Pointless excess, when more time could be spent developing the Varden, or Eragon's travels, etc.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:45 PM   #35
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Eh, it was alright. Couldn't the stand the kid playing Eragon tho.
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il will third that it was the kid was very average.

It did play out like a star wars with dragons though
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Old 12-21-2006, 12:16 PM   #37
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The next one should be better. It should have more of John Malkovich I hope.
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Old 12-21-2006, 03:10 PM   #38
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I don't think Malkovich can save the series. It's going to be like Fishburne in the Matrix.
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Just finished watching it - glad I didn't pay for it, although I want my bandwidth back.
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I bought my daughter the first book (Eragon) so kiss my ass.
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