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Old 10-18-2016, 03:28 PM   #81
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If people would have talked about Midget Court being the hottest thing in wrestling, I would react the exact same way. It has nothing to do with it being in TNA. I used to enjoy Impact a few years ago on a weekly basis.
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:25 PM   #82
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Do you dislike the Wyatt Family because they evidently have the Undertaker's ability to magically teleport and turn off the electricity to the building at will?
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:39 PM   #83
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I think that shit is super hokey, but I at least enjoy the ring work of Luke Harper and Bray Wyatt.
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:40 PM   #84
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You guys keep putting it up against WWE stuff, but I told you, there's stuff I don't like in WWE too. And there's also stuff that I DO like in TNA. But the Deletion shit fucking sucks. And it's out of place.
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:54 AM   #85
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I think you underestimate their international TV deals. They used to be in more homes than WWE in the UK, not sure if they still are but their UK tours are always their best as far as crowds go. They have deals in Brazil, Germany, Portugal, India, and many others. The company is run like shit and that has attributed to a lot of people in the US just tuning out all together. They are still number 2 because they have these international TV deals that company's like ROH or Lucha Underground just don't have.
*Used* to. Used to.
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:55 AM   #86
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I barely consider it wrestling. If at all. It's a parody of wrestling if anything. And it's a "stupid fun" one. I know people who don't like wrestling who have seen some of the Matt Hardy stuff and found it funny.

You can't watch WWE over recent years and consider it compelling television and then knock someone else's standards though. Come on. lol
I think the comparison drawn between TNA and Asylum film projects is very appropriate. Ever since Eric Young did the knock-off Daniel Bryan thing it's come off as discount bin trash stuff.
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:56 AM   #87
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Hardcores are definitely not the target audience for this.
I think we are getting into a debate about the semantics of what a "hardcore" is. I should have said "mutant."
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Old 10-23-2016, 07:20 AM   #88
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I think you underestimate their international TV deals. They used to be in more homes than WWE in the UK, not sure if they still are but their UK tours are always their best as far as crowds go.
What probably played a part in that was the fact that TNA is shown on Challenge over here, which everyone gets as it's available no matter what cable/satellite provider you go with and which of their packages you buy, whereas WWE is only shown on Sky Sports, which you have to pay an extra £30 at the most to get the Sky Sports channels and that's on top of what you're already paying to your cable/satellite provider.

You can watch Raw on Sky 1 which is another channel everyone gets, but it's been condensed into an hour so you lose a lot from the full three hour show.
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Old 10-23-2016, 07:34 AM   #89
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Also scheduled for the show is the “in ring debut” of Matt’s son King Maxel, as well as a match between Grado and Smoking Joe Frazier, the kangaroo who has the reincarnated spirit of the boxing legend in his vessel.
errr, his son is like 2 or 3 year old, they want him to wrestle?
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Old 10-23-2016, 07:39 AM   #90
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Not even a year old I don't think
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:50 AM   #91
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i wonder when wwe will sign maxel that is the best behaved baby i have ever seen on tv
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:08 PM   #93
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Not even a year old I don't think
Yeah not even a year old. Could see him being the third man for the Hardy's in a six man tag or something. Maybe they have another baby they're going to pit him against.
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hope they just toss him into the ring him and make him fight the abyss
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Maxel will morph into a masked wrestler wearing a crown.
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:26 PM   #96
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hope they just toss him into the ring him and make him fight the abyss

Broken Matt Hardy already DELETED Abyss in the Great War.
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Maxel will morph into a masked wrestler wearing a crown.
Totally
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Maxel will morph into a masked wrestler wearing a crown.
lol I was thinking they might have him face some jobber and have Matt and/or Jeff just beat the shit out of the guy and then put Maxel on top for the 3. But I might be thinking too logically.
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lol I was thinking they might have him face some jobber and have Matt and/or Jeff just beat the shit out of the guy and then put Maxel on top for the 3. But I might be thinking too logically.
they'd sooner use him as a baby missile and just fucking throw him at someone
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Half expecting Maxel to take on Eddie Edwards for the world title and win
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can some explain to me what's with all that DELETE crap?
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I never said such a thing.
You said TNA was on Challenge that free tv and WWE was on Sky Sports which is a subscription channel. So TNA is still in available in more homes than WWE in the UK. No?
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can some explain to me what's with all that DELETE crap?
Matt Hardy's catchphrase. DELETE DELETE DELETE
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You said TNA was on Challenge that free tv and WWE was on Sky Sports which is a subscription channel. So TNA is still in available in more homes than WWE in the UK. No?
Challenge mostly shows reruns of game shows from the 90s and 00s. Absolute garbage channel tbf.

It's also worth noting that while WWE in the UK is locked behind two paywalls, Raw is consistently getting higher ratings live at 1am-4am than "free" TNA programming broadcasting in a prime time slot.
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Which is understandable I never said they got bigger ratings just that TNA was more available than WWE.
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can some explain to me what's with all that DELETE crap?
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Which is understandable I never said they got bigger ratings just that TNA was more available than WWE.
More homes, free, better time slot, fewer viewers. Hmm.
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On the topic of the whole thing clashing with the rest of the show, I will say this. I think they should do away with the supernatural stuff like the lake that makes people revert back to their old gimmick.

Outside of that, everything is actually plausible within wrestling and makes sense. Matt Hardy could have gone batshit crazy. He could invite a camera crew to come film this stuff. He could actually believe that he found Joe Frazier re-incarnated as a kangaroo and begun training with him. I mean... supernatural shit isn't actually out of the realm of "wrestling realism" either but the rest of the stuff doesn't really clash with the rest of the show. It's strange but it can exist in the same universe with easy explanations.

Does anyone remember how The Boogeyman was explained by Palmer Cannon when he first debuted to make his existence make sense? It was kinda genius.
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Does anyone remember how The Boogeyman was explained by Palmer Cannon when he first debuted to make his existence make sense? It was kinda genius.
Actually...I don't remember this and it's only made me butthurt that they've been so damn slow in uploading SmackDowns to the Network.
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They started running vignettes for The Boogeyman and Palmer Cannon, who was representing the network, said "The Boogeyman" was a new show that was gonna debut on UPN but something happened and the show was cancelled before it ever aired. I think it was implied that the guy playing The Boogeyman was doing weird stuff on the set and was probably the cause of the show getting cancelled. He ended up just "becoming the character" and Palmer thought he'd fit in on Smackdown so he brought him over.
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I mean... that's a pretty well thought out explanation for a character. Especially for wrestling.
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That's really excellent, actually. Can't believe I'd forgotten about it. I thoroughly was enjoying SmackDown around that time.

Actually I thoroughly enjoyed SmackDown for nearly the entire original brand split, far more than I liked Raw. Really wish they'd complete the set.
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To bring it back to Matt, I think that was around the same time of the Matt Hardy/MVP US Title feud which was outstanding.
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How do you explain that hologram drone thing
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On the topic of the whole thing clashing with the rest of the show, I will say this. I think they should do away with the supernatural stuff like the lake that makes people revert back to their old gimmick.

Outside of that, everything is actually plausible within wrestling and makes sense. Matt Hardy could have gone batshit crazy. He could invite a camera crew to come film this stuff. He could actually believe that he found Joe Frazier re-incarnated as a kangaroo and begun training with him. I mean... supernatural shit isn't actually out of the realm of "wrestling realism" either but the rest of the stuff doesn't really clash with the rest of the show. It's strange but it can exist in the same universe with easy explanations.

Does anyone remember how The Boogeyman was explained by Palmer Cannon when he first debuted to make his existence make sense? It was kinda genius.
You cant just sweep that under the rug
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How do you explain that hologram drone thing
Its no different from any other wrestling prop. Like Al Snow and Head, Carlito and an apple, Bo's sign, or any other prop a character might use.
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Lake of Reincarnation has had some of the most comedic spots of Matt's broken brilliance in my opinion. Probably the best part Brother Nero has had was him in the lake.
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