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Old 12-21-2016, 06:11 PM   #41
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His first half of the year was very strong. Headlined the biggest show in WWE history with HHH, and had some entertaining matches. I've liked his stiff with the US title. Admittedly I think AJ had a better year overall. And I could be sold on Charlotte as #1.
Roman hasn't really done anything with the US title. The first half of the year for Roman was a master class in a failed push despite the WWE trying hard as fuck to get him over to the point of muting the boos and lying about how he gets cheered in the states and booed everywhere else.



Aj Styles-He killed it this year on the mic and in the ring. He has been a real sport with the Ellsworth stuff and despite what most people say I don't think it has hurt his credibility at all.

Sasha Banks gets it from me because she has pretty much killed herself in every match and coming from the disaster of team B.A.D to putting on true classics is quite a leap.

Honorable mentions: The Miz-do I even need to justify this one? I want him to keep the IC belt for as long as possible I care about Miz he has made the IC belt worth it again his stuff with DB has been off the charts and all they did was talk/yell at each other. His in-ring with Dolph was more than main-event worthy Maryse is legendary I could go on.


Matt Hardy-I shouldve hated it but godamn if the wackyness and creativity of the man who was seen as the lesser Hardy didn't win me over. You are doing something right when WWE starts cribbing your notes.
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Old 12-21-2016, 06:12 PM   #42
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Matt Hardy - a guy literally working backyard matches as wrestler of the year.

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The correct answer is Roman Reigns or AJ Styles. Honorable mentions to Ambrose, Miz, and Jericho.
There is no correct answer here, it's Wrestler of the Year (IYO). It's an opinion thread, some people have different opinions.
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I got CyNick's pick right, I'm proud of myself.

Slight tweaks on Roman Reigns would make that the right pick for next year.
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Billy Gunn would not be a reasonable suggestion for this thread though. There are certain objective metrics to use and AJ Styles is the correct answer. If Matt Hardy did your favorite work, then that's...that -- but you can't assert him honestly as Wrestler of the Year.

Sasha Banks has arguably lost standing with the company. She's had a great year personally, and I'm sure if you asked her she would say she is in love with her life, but she's basically been edged out of the title scene and it looks like she might be used to put over Nia Jax. I imagine she'll end up drafted to SmackDown next year and be revitalized there, but I just can't see her stock as being higher than it was this time last year.

The correct answer is AJ Styles. CyNick's answers stick close to kayfabe, but you do have to consider critical opinion somewhat too. AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Charlotte and The Miz are a good "top four."
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I got CyNick's pick right, I'm proud of myself.

Slight tweaks on Roman Reigns would make that the right pick for next year.
If Roman Reigns was a heel he could possibly be in top contention.
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Billy Gunn would not be a reasonable suggestion for this thread though. There are certain objective metrics to use and AJ Styles is the correct answer. If Matt Hardy did your favorite work, then that's...that -- but you can't assert him honestly as Wrestler of the Year.
Why though? If wrestling to you is just a good TV show and Matt Hardy was the most entertaining TV segments, why would he not be the best of the year? Who gives a shit if it was done in the ring? My secondary choice would be the Worldwide Underground in Lucha Underground which probably had a more "traditional" wrasslin' presence.

If someone asked me to pick the best TV to watch that involves wrestling, it would be the Hardys arc
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In alphabetical order:

• Cesaro
• Jericho
• Miz
• Rusev
• Styles

One of those guys, but I can't decide who.

I'll most likely reach a decision soon though, but at the moment, I'm leaning towards either Miz or Rusev.
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Why though? If wrestling to you is just a good TV show and Matt Hardy was the most entertaining TV segments, why would he not be the best of the year? Who gives a shit if it was done in the ring? My secondary choice would be the Worldwide Underground in Lucha Underground which probably had a more "traditional" wrasslin' presence.

If someone asked me to pick the best TV to watch that involves wrestling, it would be the Hardys arc
It's the same reason the WWE won't win an Emmy for Best Drama. It's just not good enough. If wrestling is a good TV show to you, then it still needs to be pass good criteria. You may have loved The Hardys stuff subjectively, but objectively I think you would have to admit that it's just not that "end of year awards" worthy. A cult film doesn't take the Oscar. You may have enjoyed it more, but you can't make a case for that being widespread popular opinion.

And before you cite others on this board, keep in mind that less than 400,000 people actually watch Impact Wrestling.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:51 PM   #49
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I don't give a shit about objectivity. Whatever of the year should be whatever people enjoyed the most and Matt Hardy was the wrestler I enjoyed watching the most.
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This isn't wide spread popular opinion Wrestler of the Year though. This is TPWW Rollermacka Wrestler of the Year (In Your Opinion).
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Game of the year is Final Fantasy XV and that has so many flaws it may as well have leprosy, but it's the game I enjoyed the most.
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Nothing WWE did this year was groundbreaking or entertaining. Again, whether AJ Styles was putting on 5 star matches or duds on a weekly basis it wouldn't matter because the story and build surrounding what he's done sucks because WWE has phoned it it for years now.

Broken Matt Hardy wins.
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Nothing WWE did this year was groundbreaking or entertaining. Again, whether AJ Styles was putting on 5 star matches or duds on a weekly basis it wouldn't matter because the story and build surrounding what he's done sucks because WWE has phoned it it for years now.

Broken Matt Hardy wins.
Agree with all of that until "Broken Matt Hardy wins." TNA isn't breaking any ground either, even though you are right about poor AJ Styles.

"I don't give a fuck about objectivity" says a lot about the direction a lot of wrestling fans are going.
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Mr. Hardy should invite Brother Neal to the Hardy Compound to decide the Wrestler of the Year.
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Agree with all of that until "Broken Matt Hardy wins." TNA isn't breaking any ground either, even though you are right about poor AJ Styles.

"I don't give a fuck about objectivity" says a lot about the direction a lot of wrestling fans are going.
A lot of people are going towards what entertains them the most instead of being Stockholm Syndromed into watching shit TV. THE HORROR.
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It's just not that funny or entertaining. The novelty wore off and they just have 15 year old jokes about Triple H burying people even though he created the Performance Center and all of the great people called up are because of him.

They should do all of their events in the Hardy Compound to further show the dwindling fan base.

It was way too long and nothing happened. NOTHING.
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Doesn't mean Hasney didn't enjoy it and feels that Matt Hardy was the wrestler of the year
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A dude was fired out of an active volcano. "NOTHING happened".

Rock and Roll Express was probably the best use of old wrestlers this year too.
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To be fair, if it was Raw, being fired from an active volcano would probably be a "kick out at 2" move.
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You could make a strong case for the New Day as a whole
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I'll throw Charlotte in top three.
I hesitated to mention Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley, Kana, or Athena because to mention one above the others would a) be a bit criminal, and b) it isn't so much about them (or others) as individuals as it is that they are in position and have the proven ability to elevate women's wrestling from the "piss break" doldrums it has been relegated to in WWE for a majority of the time there even was a Women's division even pre Butterfly Belt. TNA did it first, and even got it to work, and saw fit to let it evaporate. WWE is *very* late to the party, but eventually made it there. The ladies I mentioned and a couple of others are helping sway the public opinion of humans with vaginas who wrestle... much to the chagrin of people who assume untalented shitheads like Eva Marie deserve to be marketed as "main event" because of manufacured looks and acting like a bitch on a only marginally related sister show.

Charlotte/Sasha program in particular helped raise the bar, but this has been something slowly set in motion since AJ Lee was the queen without a kingdom.
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Old 12-22-2016, 05:52 AM   #64
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I hesitated to mention Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley, Kana, or Athena because to mention one above the others would a) be a bit criminal, and b) it isn't so much about them (or others) as individuals as it is that they are in position and have the proven ability to elevate women's wrestling from the "piss break" doldrums it has been relegated to in WWE for a majority of the time there even was a Women's division even pre Butterfly Belt. TNA did it first, and even got it to work, and saw fit to let it evaporate. WWE is *very* late to the party, but eventually made it there. The ladies I mentioned and a couple of others are helping sway the public opinion of humans with vaginas who wrestle... much to the chagrin of people who assume untalented shitheads like Eva Marie deserve to be marketed as "main event" because of manufacured looks and acting like a bitch on a only marginally related sister show.

Charlotte/Sasha program in particular helped raise the bar, but this has been something slowly set in motion since AJ Lee was the queen without a kingdom.
AJ Lee couldn't carry Charlotte's..... What the devil do women carry? Anyway, Charlotte is way better.
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It's just not that funny or entertaining. The novelty wore off and they just have 15 year old jokes about Triple H burying people even though he created the Performance Center and all of the great people called up are because of him.

They should do all of their events in the Hardy Compound to further show the dwindling fan base.

It was way too long and nothing happened. NOTHING.
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I guess i'm going to go a different way here. I would say AJ, but I think i'm going with Sasha Banks. And maybe even Co- WOTF Sasha and Charlotte.
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