11-16-2012, 04:43 PM | #1 |
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AL MVP Shenanigans
The Trout v. Miggy debate seems to be as fierce as the Presidential election, with traditionalists vs. saber metric proponents at each others throats and not lending an ear to the other side. They both think they are superior, just like fatass Jonah Hill vs. the crusty scouts in "Moneyball." How do you guys feel about all this?
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11-16-2012, 04:59 PM | #2 |
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Cabrera won the triple crown, what's to argue? If he hadn't had won the triple crown Trout would have been MVP. People need to shut up and agree with me.
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11-16-2012, 05:28 PM | #3 |
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Any other year, Trout probably wins.
But come on: Triple Crown. |
11-16-2012, 05:30 PM | #4 |
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Trout is better and should have been MVP, I care way too much about this
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11-16-2012, 05:32 PM | #5 |
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Both men were deserving I feel but the amount of vitriol and hostility from people on both sides towards another really caught my attention. It's not like Raul Mondesi swooped in and stole the MVP.
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11-16-2012, 05:36 PM | #6 |
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would be pretty awesome if everyone voted for a player who has been retired for like 10 years
or Vladimir Guerrerro |
11-16-2012, 05:39 PM | #7 |
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Vladimir Guerrero deserves the MVP award every year.
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11-16-2012, 05:39 PM | #8 |
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Montreal Vlad over Anaheim Vlad
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11-16-2012, 05:40 PM | #9 |
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Love that Raul Mondesi was the example.
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11-16-2012, 05:41 PM | #10 |
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11-16-2012, 05:41 PM | #11 |
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I was waffling between him and the venerable Ryan Klesko.
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11-16-2012, 05:42 PM | #12 |
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You made the right choice.
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11-16-2012, 05:46 PM | #13 |
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Vlad won the World Series this year
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11-16-2012, 09:51 PM | #14 |
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Triple Crown is always going to be seen as more valuable than a Rookie of the Year award regardless how great of a rookie season someone had.
Trout had 3 real problems with the voters not wanting a loosing team having the MVP like in 2003, Cabrera had better head-to-head stats in most categories, and Trout missing the first month along with his decline in September. Last edited by Emperor Smeat; 11-16-2012 at 11:48 PM. |
11-16-2012, 11:43 PM | #15 |
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They were both deserving. Somebody had to lose.
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11-22-2012, 12:35 AM | #16 |
quesque fuck?
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If you win the Triple Crown you should get MVP ten times out of ten.
That this is even a debate is retarded. |
11-22-2012, 11:07 AM | #17 |
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Well it would be if half of MLB fans didn't have a collective shit fit that their new golden boy (Trout) got "robbed." Their was a lot of crap being thrown around online and in the sports talk world about this and I didn't get it either, but I guess the Triple Crown is considered a fluke and non-impoortant to Sabermetricians these days.
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11-23-2012, 03:24 PM | #18 |
b/c 5 is better than 4
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Most Valuable Player to me always means that if you take said player out of the team, which team is hurt the most by it..... without Cabrera, Detroit still had Verlander & Fielder, whereas the Angels had pretty much nobody.... that's why I feel Trout should have won, depite Cabrera having the better season..... if Cabrera had been playing on the Marlins, Blue Jays, Red Sox or another shitty team, he would easily won it IMO.....
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11-23-2012, 03:39 PM | #19 |
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Methinks Nicky Fives needs to take a look at the Angels roster again
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11-23-2012, 03:40 PM | #20 |
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11-23-2012, 03:41 PM | #21 |
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11-23-2012, 03:42 PM | #22 |
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11-23-2012, 03:42 PM | #23 |
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WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY? |
11-23-2012, 03:43 PM | #24 |
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NEVER SEEN THIS GUY BEFORE |
11-23-2012, 03:44 PM | #25 |
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THIS GUY IS SUCH A NOBODY EVEN THE BREWERS DIDNT WANT HIM |
11-24-2012, 01:56 PM | #26 |
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11-24-2012, 01:57 PM | #27 |
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Is that you Hawk?
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11-25-2012, 12:08 PM | #28 | |
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triple crown. actually happened |
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11-29-2012, 05:40 PM | #29 |
quesque fuck?
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It's most valuable player in the league, the best player. Not most valuable player to his team or if he was taken off who would be worse.
Dumb. |
12-11-2012, 05:13 PM | #30 |
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False. Team contribution is a key part of the Most Valuable player award voting.
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12-11-2012, 09:51 PM | #31 |
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There really is no hard rule as to what is criteria. They give you a guideline, but voters are always going to have their own direction.
Stats and performance is what matters and I think that shows in the voting, as it should. |
12-12-2012, 11:47 AM | #32 |
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