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Old 01-17-2014, 08:29 PM   #81
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if WWE treat Sting likes he's a big deal and make him out to be a big deal, he'll be a big deal
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:58 PM   #82
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Considering the WWE has been trying to get Sting for the past few years, I doubt they are worried about what his relevancy status is since that can easily be fixed once their hype machine takes over.

Punk vs Taker last year showed the WWE doesn't need a long time to hype up a streak match while WWE.com and the WCW-related DVDs usually show a good deal of praise towards him every so often.
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Old 01-17-2014, 10:47 PM   #83
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Be just like every other year fans will gossip and Sting will chicken out and remain with TNA. Unless he retires
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:55 AM   #84
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Two months is more than enough time to hype a sting v taker match and with the launch of the network it helps to promote his classic stuff. Millions still know who he is in the wwe fans are nostalgic as shown by the Goldberg chants and macho man chants whenever punk does the elbow. As for why they should waste a title on him well it wouldn't be a waste if his feuds and matches were pulled off perfectly and can't have a legend come wwe of stings calibre and not have him on top if only for one ppv.
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:06 AM   #85
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Sting doesn't need the title, Sting would be the attraction, you're just taking away a promotional tool from another match, you may as well make it a barbwire scaffold landmines on a pole laser shark deathmatch. Your idea was for him to come in and win the rumble, so he's on top for at least 3 months taking away spots from other guys who could benefit from being the rumble winner and being involved in the title match and the ensuing hype leading up to it.
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:09 AM   #86
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Lesnar was a huge draw outside of WWE, Flair transcended wrestling, Hogan is Hulk Hogan... using these examples only further proves the point I'm making.

Sting was a draw for a while in a company that didn't exist 7 years ago. He is irrelevant to the average fan today. No further questions your honour. You'll just have to accept that you are wrong on this occasion.
Sting was THE guy for WCW. One of only a few people they made, the only top guy never to work for Vince, a bonefide legend. He will get a reaction from longtime fans and the guys that also watch TNA (aka the IWC) and if the "casual fans" don't get it...
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:17 AM   #87
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Sting doesn't need the title, Sting would be the attraction, you're just taking away a promotional tool from another match, you may as well make it a barbwire scaffold landmines on a pole laser shark deathmatch. Your idea was for him to come in and win the rumble, so he's on top for at least 3 months taking away spots from other guys who could benefit from being the rumble winner and being involved in the title match and the ensuing hype leading up to it.
I'm suggesting that if wwe wanted to do the sting angle properly then it would have been to develop feuds over a year, have sting beat some tops raw opponents, take part in a hell in a cell match, win the rumble, win a title etc as to allow him to have his glory in the wwe. Even he were to come for just wm 30 I have no doubt he will be scripted to lose to taker given that I think the streak would have ended long ago if the writers really wanted it. It would kind of take away that aura of invincibility taker has and what has been the standout moment of his career. As a sting fan I wouldn't want to see him make his long awaited debut in the wwe only to job to taker or Cena and I suspect amongst other things maybe that's what Sting has been cautious about hence his reluctance to jump to wwe.

Yes it would take away a promotional tool from one of the stars for a few months but do Cena, Bryan or punk need anymore hyping than they have at the moment? They will still be around for the next wm and the one after and maybe after that whereas this may well be stings only wwe appearance and if it does happen I guess sting fans out there are hoping it won't be a disaster like warrior coming to the WCW. If it wasn't for the fact ht warrior was just so crap, egotistical and took part in one of worst matches ever during his WCW time and didn't commit, I'm sure WCW had plans for him so far as biatch off claiming a whole merchandise line had been in the works and no doubt at some stage that would have culminated in a title run of sorts.
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Wining the Rumble/Title so he can job to 'taker, who then historically disappears for 10months afterwards, is overkill. He's 50 something years old, he'll be used sparingly if he was brought in to hide that fact and maintain the nostalgia, he doesn't need all the bells and whistles to hype a 'Mania match especially against the Undertaker, the streak is the title there. And why for fucks sake would you put him in a HITC match?
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:50 AM   #89
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Wining the Rumble/Title so he can job to 'taker, who then historically disappears for 10months afterwards, is overkill. He's 50 something years old, he'll be used sparingly if he was brought in to hide that fact and maintain the nostalgia, he doesn't need all the bells and whistles to hype a 'Mania match especially against the Undertaker, the streak is the title there. And why for fucks sake would you put him in a HITC match?
Why not put him in a hiac match? If he's fit enough and up for it it would be awesome.

Hogan was near enough 50 when he came back to wwe fought rock at wm and won the title from triple h and beat HBK. Age isn't a barrier and as I said Sting is still quite reasonably physically fit whereas taker can't get through a single match at mania without needing a ten month recuperation period.

But let's be fair the streak isn't going to end so if and a big if sting does come to wwe for wm alone, is that how he will be remembered in wwe?
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But let's be fair the streak isn't going to end so if and a big if sting does come to wwe for wm alone, is that how he will be remembered in wwe?
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Old 01-18-2014, 06:07 AM   #91
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I don't care what Anybody Prissypants says, I would mark out like crazy to see Sting in the same ring as Taker.
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:04 AM   #92
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You don't book Sting to appeal to the current audience, you book him to help hook in old fans to watch the biggest wrestling event of all time and potentially regain them as viewers.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:12 AM   #93
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If Sting comes out to his Crow theme song, he is instantly a big deal in my books.
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Old 01-18-2014, 10:56 AM   #94
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People say a lot of wwe fans don't know who sting is but wwe fans are also wrestling fans and do watch TNA roh etc so we shouldn't assume that they are ignorant.
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I highly doubt that they'd iron out a deal in the next week even if they did agree for Sting to come in, but my god I'd mark out huge for a Rumble appearance. I'd like to think they can find some way to keep it under wraps. Nobody knew Jake would show up the other week, for instance.
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If Sting comes out to his Crow theme song, he is instantly a big deal in my books.
also would rather him take on bray then taker. lights go out wyats come out then lights go out again then sting appears and beats there asses with a bat.
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I wonder what Taker's thoughts are on a match with Sting. Could be veto it even if he did sign? Apparently he has a lot of say with his Mania opponent.
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Pretty sure he could, it's never 100% he'll even work it so I'm sure they'll give him as much creative leeway as possible.
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Fignuts does not have to call me names just because I don't give a fuck about Sting. What a bully.
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People say a lot of wwe fans don't know who sting is but wwe fans are also wrestling fans and do watch TNA roh etc so we shouldn't assume that they are ignorant.
Don't be silly. No one watches ROH.
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:28 PM   #103
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Don't be silly. No one watches ROH.
I know ii was just saying it to be polite. But I would out of curiosity if I knew when and where to watch it. I'm a wrestling fan I'll watch any wrestling be it pro or olympic wrestling or even sumo haha. But yeah the point is there are lots of wwe fans who are wrestling fans and hence will no doubt tune into TNA for example particularly if they were fans of stars who have since left WWE like say the Dudleys, Jeff Hardy or Kurt Angle.
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Old 01-18-2014, 11:42 PM   #105
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Well as per the title of the thread; his contract with TNA is up and he's been put in angle where he has to quit if he loses and rumours are rife he's set for the WWE. If he doesn't sign now then frankly I don't see it happening again and neither should it happen.

What better opportunity to bring in one of the biggest stars of wrestling of all time then at the 30th edition of WM in the match against Taker everyone has wanted to see for so long?

WM 30 looks set to be huge in the build up and everything going on alongside it.... Ultimate Warrior returning, Hulk Hogan possibly coming back, Sting,
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I really don't see Sting vs The Undertaker as a wet dream match.
You have someone who has never stepped foot in a WWE ring vs a jalopey that's only driven once, MAYBE twice a year. Sting could be cool. He's seen as the most successful man who has never worked for Vince.
I hate to say it like this, but it's a bad idea. Not because of Sting, but because of The Undertaker. I'd like to see Sting vs Triple H, Randy Orton, Bo Dallas, John Cena, Bray Wyatt, Daniel Bryan, Batista, Alberto Del Rio, or any other star. To give him a match with a broken down man who can't pull off a part time schedule is just unfair to Sting.
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To be honest I'd rather Undertaker only wrestled once or twice a year, it protects his aura as 'big deal'. If TNA had done that with half the 'legends' they'd signed it might have made a difference to how they were perceived.
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:26 AM   #108
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TNA just couldn't afford to do that with their legend as demonstrated by their financial issues. They were a draw and needed to be on tv. With wwe at least there are plenty of top stars around that the fact undertaker isn't there won't matter too much.
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Old 01-19-2014, 10:30 AM   #109
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Nobody in TNA is a draw, they get the same ratings week in week out.
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Old 01-19-2014, 02:43 PM   #110
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Nobody in TNA is a draw, they get the same ratings week in week out.
Not even Austim Aries? Or AJ Styles before he left?
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Old 01-19-2014, 02:48 PM   #111
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The ratings are the same every week so no.
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:01 PM   #114
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Lesnar stayed relevant to WWE's audience while he was gone by making a name for himself in the UFC. Flair was gone from WWE but relevant in WCW which was on par with WWE at times and shared an audience. Same with Hogan. Sting has not stayed relevant.


Nash came back as Diesel after like 15 years and got a huge pop.

Just cuz kids weren't watching while he was a big star in WCW doesn't mean they can't find out about these guys. Youtube exists you know.
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I wonder what Taker's thoughts are on a match with Sting. Could be veto it even if he did sign? Apparently he has a lot of say with his Mania opponent.
for sure. No way they would ever just be like "this is who you're on at Mania with", he'd be involved/sounded out from the get go
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:23 AM   #116
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Bobo does not have that much rep yet (10+)
Would it really be a bad thing to end the streak and who better to give that honour to than Sting?

The streak probably won't end no on reflection it shouldn't. No doubt undertaker is amongst the greats perhaps the greatest but his wm record does make him standout above numerous others.

And one side note technically has wrestled in the WWE seeing as they owned WCW when the final Nitro aired so technically he was wrestling on a programme and brand owned by WWE albeit for one night.
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Sting ending the streak accomplishes absolutely nothing. I'd doubt even Sting himself would think that's a good idea.
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Old 01-20-2014, 09:38 AM   #118
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Sting ending the streak accomplishes absolutely nothing. I'd doubt even Sting himself would think that's a good idea.
So is that it then he would only be brought in for one match, lose and that's it? If he is going to get this wwe run as the rumours suggest then there needs to be a high point in there somewhere and I suspect this may be something that sting has raised in the past.

Unlike others I don't see a major issue with him winning the wwe title particularly if he put on a good show. He will be popular and relevant with fans old and new and I can envisage kids buying and wearing sting masks to raw and the Ppvs.

There's life left in the old man.

Hogan was near enough 50 when he won the wwe title for the final time and I doubt anyone saw that as a shot in the foot.
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you seem to be under the assumption that if Sting comes in (and before Mania to boot), he's definitely going on with Taker. If he gets brought in, I'd be very surprised if they put him in with Taker, if on Mania at all. It's fantasy booking. It would have been spectacular a few years ago, now I'd have my doubts. As for there being life left in the old man, I absolutely agree. If he could get to a point where he's worthy of having the belt, creatively, the reaction to him etc, and the quality of his performances hasn't dropped too much that he could do good things with Orton, Punk, Cena and co, I wouldn't at all be against it. It's a huge if however. Probably more of a feature attraction at this point, used in the same way Brock is.
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