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Old 09-26-2016, 11:39 PM   #7481
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Ya i almost had some tears about that
Definitely got dusty in my house during this game. Tough one to watch. No idea how they gathered the strength to even play tonight.

I'm going to miss watching Fernandez so much. Always went out of my way to watch his starts. Tremendous talent, always had fun playing the game. Hate this.
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Old 09-26-2016, 11:50 PM   #7482
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The killer is he came from literally nothing. Nothing. And he made something of his immense talent. And now he's gone. Just a sad story.
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Old 09-26-2016, 11:50 PM   #7483
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Two of his friends were killed with him too.

He was about to be a father too.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:01 AM   #7484
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That's the part that got me. My daughter is everything. To know his child was robbed of him and vice versa was the part that hit me hardest.
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Droford does anything he can to discredit the Jays because he is a punk bitch.
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From 1989 to 2016

Cito is long gone (though he still sucks). The stadium in which the O’s lost those games, then known as SkyDome, is still there, though it’s gone from a brand-new wonder to a corporate-branded monstrosity that these days is filled with stereotype-breaking angry Canadians who’ve taken on the aspect of mega-jerk Jose Bautista and like to express that in various ways, including throwing beer onto the field.


Of course there’s no actual reason for there to be any connection between the 1989 Orioles and the 2016 Orioles late-season trips to Toronto except in the minds of the incredibly superstitious. Everyone involved, player and manager, is long gone, unless you count pitchers Dave Johnson and Ben McDonald doing radio, or outfielder Brady Anderson being a special assistant to the GM these days.

The 2016 edition of the O’s will have plenty of their own reasons for wanting to beat the Jays now, from recent history with some bad blood to just wanting to secure their own postseason spot this year.

There’s the wild card now, two spots for them in fact, and the O’s enter their penultimate series a game and a half behind the Jays. That’ll be either a game or two by tomorrow; the Jays must finish a series with the Yankees. Let’s hope they play 18 innings and their bullpen gets trashed. With a good series, the O’s could leave Toronto tied or even ahead of the Jays.


There can only be one Why Not? Orioles. After all, what made them what they were is the way they rebounded from the 107-loss disaster of 1988 to unexpectedly contend into the final series of the season. The 2016 O’s are unexpectedly contending, defying the experts and computers who picked them to come in last in the division, but a little rebound after an 81-win season is nothing compared to the 1989 team.

A familiar story for the Orioles, sort of

Still, the similarities are there, and if you’re superstitious, it’s enough to make you a little nervous. The 1989 O’s were successful despite having one of the worst starting rotations in MLB. They spent a good chunk of the season - three full months - in first place in the division before faltering a bit in the second half.

One way those O’s were successful is that they were able to outperform their Pythagorean expected win-loss record by four games. They were very good at home, not so good on the road, and had an uncanny ability to win extra inning games. They had a good closer in Gregg Olson and even a 10-win reliever in Mark Williamson, despite the fact that it’s totally weird to have a reliever win 10 games.

These are all things you can map directly to the 2016 team. The 2016 O’s starting rotation is, relative to the rest of MLB, even worse than the 1989 team’s was. Yet despite that, they spent a whole lot of time in first place in the AL East for the year.

This year’s Orioles team entered Sunday’s play four games ahead of their Pythagorean win expectation. Their home record of 50-31 is one of the best the franchise has ever compiled. They are 6-2 in extra inning games and haven’t lost one since June.

Zach Britton is flawless on save chances for the season and sure enough, there’s a 10-win reliever sitting there in Brad Brach. It’s even more uncanny than that: Brach’s record is 10-3, exactly what Williamson brought into Toronto in 1989.

This last may be the most disturbing of the bunch, because as it worked out, Williamson was the losing pitcher in both of the games of the series that the O’s lost. There is no such thing as destiny, nor curses or any such things, but, in the unlikely event that Brach takes two losses this weekend to end the year with a 10-5 record, you might have to wonder for a second.

It was a brutal pair of games the O’s lost in the first two games of that 1989 series. The Friday night game saw unheralded 18-game winner Jeff Ballard keep the Jays off the board for 7.1 innings, but when he ran into trouble in the eighth and Olson was summoned, Olson ended up allowing the tying run to score on a wild pitch. A blown save. The game went into extra innings, where Williamson ultimately lost the game in the eleventh.

In the Saturday game, the next-to-last of the season, with the O’s needing to win to pull back within a game of the AL East, they got another unexpected strong start, this time from Johnson, who pitched seven innings. After walking the leadoff man in the eighth, Johnson was relieved by lefty Kevin Hickey, who pulled a Brian Matusz by walking the only batter he faced.

So Williamson, the eighth inning guy of his day, came in to put out the fire. A sacrifice bunt, two singles, and a sacrifice fly later and a 3-1 Orioles lead was a 4-3 deficit. The Orioles out-hit the Jays, 9-4, in this game, and lost. I was alive for this, though I do not remember experiencing it the way that I would now, because I was only five. But my goodness, this must have really been hard to take. The Jays won the East with only 89 wins that year!



The Saturday game
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:53 AM   #7486
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Gonna be payback for 1989 AND for Cito not pitching Mussina in the ASG
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:32 PM   #7487
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:35 PM   #7488
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The Os will be right back in this hell hole of a stadium 1 week from tonight when it matters
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:47 PM   #7489
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Maybe. Seattle and Detroit will both be 1GB after tonight.
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:51 PM   #7490
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Lol oh oh, peaked too early
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:19 PM   #7491
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Rogers center is pretty nice, was just there lastnight.

Lol not an ideal result but a fun game with lots of shenanigans. Toronto fans are a bunch of drama queen pussies though. I do agree that Jays players are emotional and need to take their medicine.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:20 PM   #7492
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gonna be hilarious if the jays take the first 2 in this series and Baltimore takes the 3rd game and Droford acts as though they got a series sweep.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:29 PM   #7493
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Was inevitable the win streak was going to get broken but pretty bad sign Price is having HR problems again.

Most he's given up in his career for a single season and has at least one more start left before the playoffs.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:39 PM   #7494
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Yankees are a nightmare in that bush league ball park, lots of cheapies. Wouldnt be too worried about Price until playoff game 1. Honestly, with him you'll know fast if he's conquered his playoff demons.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:41 PM   #7495
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I would be worried about Price. He looks very hittable.
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get out of here cubs fan with your stress free end of the regular season. Rat bastard.
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lol so true. I saw Bryant got the night off and gave Maddon a /golfclap
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lol i will say we had that over here last year but the stress picks up fast come post season. Cubs could be the #realdeal though this year....

...or Baltimore, Baltimore could also be the real deal.
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Also Droford, Jays have been in the playoffs once since 1993. You need to calm down on your hatred.
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Hes just getting into his playoff form
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Hey Droford Gausman was amazing lastnight... oh wait
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It's pretty funny that the entire league has figured out how to pitch the jays but Gausman goes out there an just eats pure shit.
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Tim Tebow hit a home run off of a Cardinals minor leaguer on the very first pitch he saw in his first game as a pro.

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Who has the tie breaker between Detroit and Baltimore?
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Who has the tie breaker between Detroit and Baltimore?
There will be a game if there is a tie. Tie breaker would decide home field. I assume its either Head to Head or Common Opponents.
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I mean if Toronto finishes ahead of both. Would Baltimore and Detroit play a game to see who plays Toronto?
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Whatever. It'll give the Yankees and their fans a thrill now that they are done. 1980's level bad Yankees coming.
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I mean if Toronto finishes ahead of both. Would Baltimore and Detroit play a game to see who plays Toronto?
And its be in Baltimore if tie with Detroit

But they won't tie with Detroit cause they're going to have the #1 spot
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I bought a ticket For the Wild Card game in Baltimore

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Indians/Tigers got postponed

It could end up being a clusterfuck of that have to make up that game on monday and then they win and tie for the 2nd wild card requiring a tie breaker game Tuesday. The Wild Card game itself is Tuesday. Of assume wild card game get pushed back

They would have to go from Atlanta Sunday to Detroit Monday to either Baltimore/Toronto Tuesday than Toronto/Baltimore Wednesday
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Whatever. It'll give the Yankees and their fans a thrill now that they are done. 1980's level bad Yankees coming.
Mr. Gary Sanchez would like a word.

And for the record, we never had high expectations this season. Although the 2nd half was quite fun with the youth movement.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:25 PM   #7518
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I don't think the Yankees will be awful. They have a lot coming thru the system and their current core was good enough to position them in wildcard till the near end.

They also still have money. And they're probably gonna sign one of Machado or Harper when they're available. The Yankees are in fact scary to think about.
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Manny will never play for the Yankees.
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Wishful thinking at best. Baltimore won't pay him. They'll still be on the hook for the rotting corpse of Chris Davis. Manny is gonna be their next superstar.
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