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Old 12-06-2014, 04:08 PM   #1
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If You Could Change a Match Result
I was recently watching No Way Out 2001 on the Network and it was a tremendous PPV. However, the result of the Austin/HHH epic was disappointing to me. It was essentially the end to the blood feud and right before Austin ' s WMX7 main event, and seeing Austin do the job just rubbed me wrong... it also got me thinking: if you could change the result of any match in wrestling history, which would you choose?

A close second would be HHH/Booker T at WM19.

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Old 12-06-2014, 04:39 PM   #2
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Supposedly that was his consolation for not getting the main event at 'Mania that year but it did seem silly to have Austin lose going into the match with the Rock.

The HHH/Taz match on Smackdown when Taz was the ECW champ for the week, wouldn't have hurt Hunter to stare at the lights and it could of done wonders for Taz and the eventually ECW when they got bought out.
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:32 AM   #3
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The HHH/Taz match on Smackdown when Taz was the ECW champ for the week, wouldn't have hurt Hunter to stare at the lights and it could of done wonders for Taz and the eventually ECW when they got bought out.
This match was going to be my answer.

And I would have gone one farther and, much like they should have done with CM Punk when he "left with the WWE title", would have had him defend it a couple times in an "unsanctioned" capacity (to possibly give a rub to someone down the card from both promotions - and have recap footage of it in the ECW guerilla camera style) before going back to ECW to drop it later... maybe in a couple of weeks. Having a "renegade champion" could have been awesome.
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Old 12-06-2014, 05:18 PM   #4
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Considering what happened afterwards, Goldberg vs Nash for the WCW title. No shenanigans ending the streak nor the "Finger Poke of Doom" happening. Maybe even no WCW foolishly getting a lot of people to switch over to RAW to see Foley's title win.
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Old 12-06-2014, 06:22 PM   #5
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Owen Hart Vs. Bret Hart for the WWF Championship at that House Show where Owen actually won and it got reversed. Re-reverse the reversal whoooooo!
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Orton HHH Mania 25 comes to mind. Orton had seemingly found his heel niche, and had a ton of momentum going in. The loss felt underwhelming.
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:19 PM   #8
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A few come to mind:

- Booker T vs Triple H at WrestleMania XIX. Triple H winning that match was just ridiculous after the angle they ran leading up to it. Triple H basically said that Booker T didn't deserve to be a WHC contender because he's black, and then proved it by defeating Booker T in their match. Booker also got zero redemption after the fact. Horrible.

- RVD vs Stone cold vs Kurt Angle from No Mercy 2001. RVD was red hot and had the fans behind him - a short reign as WWF Champion would have put him into the stratosphere and immediately created a new main event player. Instead they basically cooled him out for like 5-6 years before they finally pulled the trigger on his championship victory at One Night Stand 2. An RVD win here made sense, and Austin didn't even have to take the fall - RVD could've pinned Angle and would've led to an awesome series between a Kurt Angle in his prime and an RVD in his prime.

- Goldberg loses in the second Elimination Chamber. Killed his momentum pretty good right there, and it wasn't much to speak of before that anyhow. But jobbing him out to Triple H and the hammer of doom pretty much destroyed whatever mystique he had going for him at that point, and he never really recovered.

- Triple H regains the WHC at New Year's Revolution in the Elimination Chamber. They ran an awesome angle on RAW where Benoit and Edge defeated Triple H at the same time in a triple threat for the WHC, leading to the title being held up. This could've been a great time to move new guys in the WHC division (namely Benoit, Edge and Jericho, who were doing pretty much nothing during the Triple H reign of terror) while they ran the Evolution break-up storyline. Instead, Triple H won his WHC back and things went right back to the status quo.
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John Cena vs Chris Jericho vs Christian for the WWE title.

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Easily Mania 9, would have had Hart going over Yokozuna clean and not had Hogan anywhere near it. Would have had time to build someone properly to face Hart at Mania and he would have had the win and title run that he deserved at that stage...
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:45 PM   #13
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Hogan should have beat The Rock at WM 18. I was at that ppv you know.
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no, but Scott Hall should have beaten Austin (and then Nash comes to help on the beatdown), and then the show should have closed with the nWo standing over Rock as originally planned because that would have FUCKIN RULED.

And I was also at that ppv, it was awesome.
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One obvious and One not so obvious...

Obvious choice... Taker/Brock at WM 30. Give Taker his streak to retire on.

Not So Obvious... HHH/Kane No Mercy 2002. Kane was over as anything as a Babyface going into that match. It was World vs IC Title. End of the IC Title. Would have been a great rub for Kane to get that win and have a little run as a Babyface Champion. Anything that wasn't HHH as Champion during that time would have been fresh. Besides, Kane deserved it after the Katie Vick crap.
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:26 AM   #18
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Wade Barrett wins the WWE Championship at Survivor Series 2010. They could have had that Cena/Barrett storyline go all the way to Mania and Barrett be a bonafide superstar mega-heel.
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Old 12-08-2014, 11:44 AM   #21
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I was recently watching No Way Out 2001 on the Network and it was a tremendous PPV. However, the result of the Austin/HHH epic was disappointing to me. It was essentially the end to the blood feud and right before Austin ' s WMX7 main event, and seeing Austin do the job just rubbed me wrong... it also got me thinking: if you could change the result of any match in wrestling history, which would you choose?

A close second would be HHH/Booker T at WM19.
this is my number one.

close second...

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Think Booker/HHH @ Mania XIX is probably the most obvious one.

Also, Punk/HHH @ Night of Champions '11. This was Punk at his hottest, a win over a semi-retired HHH would have kept him rolling. The finish was over-booked with interference from Miz & Truth, the a returning Kevin Nash. This lead to the awful "I messaged myself from your phone" debacle, an awkward verbal back and forth between Punk/Nash that didn't lead to a match and had Nash verbally 'burying' Punk, and a HHH/Nash ladder match that nobody wanted.

HHH/Jericho @ Raw 17 April 2000 - the title change that never was. This would have lent itself to the "anything can happen in the WWF" attitude of that time, and would have been a super shot in the arm for Jericho at that time. It would have been the proverbial "cat amongst the pigeons" at that time, throwing Jericho into the mix with Rock & HHH.
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Think Booker/HHH @ Mania XIX is probably the most obvious one.

Also, Punk/HHH @ Night of Champions '11. This was Punk at his hottest, a win over a semi-retired HHH would have kept him rolling. The finish was over-booked with interference from Miz & Truth, the a returning Kevin Nash. This lead to the awful "I messaged myself from your phone" debacle, an awkward verbal back and forth between Punk/Nash that didn't lead to a match and had Nash verbally 'burying' Punk, and a HHH/Nash ladder match that nobody wanted.

HHH/Jericho @ Raw 17 April 2000 - the title change that never was. This would have lent itself to the "anything can happen in the WWF" attitude of that time, and would have been a super shot in the arm for Jericho at that time. It would have been the proverbial "cat amongst the pigeons" at that time, throwing Jericho into the mix with Rock & HHH.
yup, this one too.
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HHH/Jericho @ Raw 17 April 2000 - the title change that never was. This would have lent itself to the "anything can happen in the WWF" attitude of that time, and would have been a super shot in the arm for Jericho at that time. It would have been the proverbial "cat amongst the pigeons" at that time, throwing Jericho into the mix with Rock & HHH.
Would have had Santino win that Rumble for the same reason, probably the only Rumble match in memory where it didn't really matter because of the rest of the 'Mania card that year.
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A question to the guys that picked Brock/Taker: if the match was of better quality like the previous 5 UT Wrestlemania matches, would you still have a problem with the result?
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A question to the guys that picked Brock/Taker: if the match was of better quality like the previous 5 UT Wrestlemania matches, would you still have a problem with the result?
I would still change it. I feel like the streak was something that should have been left in tact, as it is highly unlikely that it will ever happen again and was also part of Takers persona.

I would have rather seen a younger talent benefit from the accolade of beating the streak, but that runs back to "brass rings" and a lazy locker room, which is complete BS.
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Booker T vs. Triple H at WrestleMania 19 never sat right with me at all. If the build weren't chock full of racial undertones maybe it would have been a sensible decision but as it stood it just didn't feel right. Triple H waiting 5 minutes to cover Booker after the Pedigree didn't help, either.
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Booker T vs. Triple H at WrestleMania 19 never sat right with me at all. If the build weren't chock full of racial undertones maybe it would have been a sensible decision but as it stood it just didn't feel right. Triple H waiting 5 minutes to cover Booker after the Pedigree didn't help, either.
On top of that it was a weak looking Pedigree if I recall and Booker sold it like he got hit with a truck.
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Yeah, it's surprising they've never done an underdog winning the Rumble. Especially when there was 2 World Championships. The year Sheamus won he went on to compete for the WHC, whilst the more prestigious title was defended higher up the card - and not in the main event.

Even if they didn't want to go through with it to Mania and had the guy lose the shot to somebody else at the next PPV, it'd put a bit of shine on somebody.
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Yeah, it's surprising they've never done an underdog winning the Rumble. Especially when there was 2 World Championships. The year Sheamus won he went on to compete for the WHC, whilst the more prestigious title was defended higher up the card - and not in the main event.

Even if they didn't want to go through with it to Mania and had the guy lose the shot to somebody else at the next PPV, it'd put a bit of shine on somebody.
I feel they missed a prime oppurtunity to do this back in 2002 when Maven debuted and eliminated The Undertaker. Instead of having Taker assault him afterwards, they should have had him go on to a couple more improbable eliminations, maybe a bit of getting out under the ropes, etc. Then Maven comes in at the end with the shocking win. Woulda been omg worthy.
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Yeah, it's surprising they've never done an underdog winning the Rumble. Especially when there was 2 World Championships. The year Sheamus won he went on to compete for the WHC, whilst the more prestigious title was defended higher up the card - and not in the main event.

Even if they didn't want to go through with it to Mania and had the guy lose the shot to somebody else at the next PPV, it'd put a bit of shine on somebody.
Don't even think they necessarily had to put a shine on someone more just actually follow through on the notion that anyone can win it, by the time number 30 hits you're lucky if there's 2 or 3 guys left you think might actually win it regardless of how many are still in it.
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I would change afew actually.

Starting with wrestlemania. Why not move Brock out the match with taker and put in The Ryback Big Guy? And have him beat the streak?

Another is CM Punk vs The Rock. Have it a Triple Threat match with The Ryback Big Guy and have The Ryback Big Guy win the title?

How about Daniel Bryan vs Randy Orton vs Batista at Wrestlemania? Turn it into a Fatal Four way and have the Ryback Big Guy win the title.

All good scenarios for the WWE and Ryback is more over than anyone in WWE at this point.
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So Clerk is Gertner....should have known. If I cared I probably could have.
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Hogan vs Sting at Starcade. Would have been great if Hogan cheated to win, maybe have Hart screw Sting. Just something about that result didnt work.
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Hogan vs Sting at Starcade. Would have been great if Hogan cheated to win, maybe have Hart screw Sting. Just something about that result didnt work.
Sting should have made him tap out clean and have no Bret or no "not all that fast" fast count.
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It should've either been a glorified squash match, or had been a classic cluster fuck with Sting literally dismantling the NWO single handedly.
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It should've either been a glorified squash match, or had been a classic cluster fuck with Sting literally dismantling the NWO single handedly.
This. Hogan should have made Sting look like a killer and just been completely outclassed. WCW would have gone into 1998 with Sting as their top guy and Bret Hart showing up, potentially claiming to be the Real World's Heavyweight Champion. Sting could have beaten Nash and Hall over the next few months, and maybe teamed with Hart at a PPV to face them, and at some point later in 1998 you do Sting vs. Hart for the WCW World Title.
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