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Old 12-13-2008, 01:47 PM   #41
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I believe so. I've never seen seasons 6 and 7 of That 70's Show but Eric goes to "Africa" and I don't know where Kelso goes.
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JD and Carla leaving, i seem to be having flashbacks of a local-TV Series which was called "Two Pints of Lager, and a packet of crisps". They made up ridiculous storylines for some of the main characters to leave, just so the show could continue on for a while longer.
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Scrubs is terribly unfunny.
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:41 PM   #46
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JD and Carla leaving, i seem to be having flashbacks of a local-TV Series which was called "Two Pints of Lager, and a packet of crisps". They made up ridiculous storylines for some of the main characters to leave, just so the show could continue on for a while longer.
God, that show jumped the shark when Ralph Little left...maybe a little bit before.
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Whoa what? Getting rid of JD and Carla and continuing with the show would just be terrible -- the execs ruining the legacy of a good show for more money.

Didn't That 70's Show do something similar, where Kelso (Ashton Kutcher) and the main character (Eric, I think?) left, but the others still hung out in his basement and stuff? BAH!
I can understand why people would be terrified of an idea like this, but I can actually see Scrubs being able to pull it off.

Firstly, one thing Scrubs has always been good with, is mixing in dramatic elements to their stories, having arcs, and explaining why things happen. If JD and Carla leave, you better believe they will be impactful episodes that will also set up how the show goes on without them. It won't just be a "one day they're there, the next they're gone" thing.

JD is actually the most replaceable of the cast, I think. Zach Braff is very talented, and yes, the main character, but the main purpose he has served is that of a center for the plots to rotate around. He's always been the goofy dork, but in more recent seasons, it's become more apparent, and his character is taking more specific turns (getting a disease, having a kid, etc.). If you have another goofy dork come in, and do it just as well as Braff, and have a good connection with the cast, it could actually be refreshing for the show.

Carla is harder to get rid of, because the rest of the cast has always been more stoic in their roles than the role Braff plays. You'd need to have her get divorced from Turk, or die during the birth of their second kid, or something. Very dramatic stuff, but it sets up a huge storyline for Turk to deal with in Season 9 of the show. If Zach Braff and Judy Reyes both leave, then it means Turk will be a single father on the show, which is the current shtick JD has going on. Judy Reyes and Braff are mainly moving away due to time constraints and money issues -- there's no falling out with Bill Lawrence, or anything. They could make some guest appearances, or something.

Sarah Chalke has said she will keep going on with the show, so that is a plus. And if they keep John C. McGinley, they are alright (I honestly believe that Dr. Cox is the only irreplaceable character on the show). If Donald Faison, Neil Flynn and Ken Jenkins all hang it out, I think the season would actually be really interesting.

Keep the show going for ten seasons, and re-evaluate it then. See if the new kid is doing well as the lead, and if the new hot nurse they've hired has been accepted into the Scrubs universe. If it goes well, then maybe they could keep going. By then I think the rest of the cast will be ready to move on, anyway.
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Scrubs and Arrested Development are both fantastic. I'm actually hoping that long-rumoured (by both Zach Braff and Bill Lawrence) David Cross "cross-over" takes place, and we get Dr. Tobias Funke -- analrapist on Scrubs. Especially seeing as the AD movie is now confirmed to be getting into gear. There's some promotion for ya.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:09 AM   #50
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Noid, you are just wrong. Without JD, Scrubs will not succeed. He is the focal point of the show. He's the mother fucking NARRATOR of the show for christ's sake. To bring in anyone else would just be stupid. Zach Braff makes that show work - anyone else would just be copying him or making the show less than what it is. JD is "Scrubs." Without him, it's nothing. Yes, you have lots of great talented actors, but at this point in the show's run, taking away the main character who you have built up so much would be pressing the self destruct button. That 70's Show's later seasons is proof of that.
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:41 PM   #51
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Yeah, the "His Story/Her Story's are always refreshing from JD, but what makes them refreshing is that they are someone totally new. I wouldn't want someone to come in and be another dork...might as well hire a new Darren.
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Noid, you do make some points, but I have to side with Fox here. I think you are right in that JD isn't as fun as he used to be, but he is the main character and he does dictate the mood of the whole show. I don't think it's that Zach Braff has run its part, I think it's just that the show might have. When you watch the new episodes, it's just too obvious that JD and Turk are older guys now, and it just doesn't work.

Getting rid of Carla would ruin the show even more. Beyond the obvious storylines (does she just leave Turk randomly?), her attitude is such an important element in the show. There has always been something comforting in Carla and Doctor Cox. I think some of the best episodes in the series were when Cox lost his edge and almost quit, because suddenly there was nothing to fall back on anymore.

I really think the only main character that the show could replace is Elliot, but even that would be hard. Scrubs is a great show, but shows only have so long of a shelf life, and I hope they don't tarnish this by going too long.
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Noid, you are just wrong. Without JD, Scrubs will not succeed. He is the focal point of the show. He's the mother fucking NARRATOR of the show for christ's sake. To bring in anyone else would just be stupid. Zach Braff makes that show work - anyone else would just be copying him or making the show less than what it is. JD is "Scrubs." Without him, it's nothing. Yes, you have lots of great talented actors, but at this point in the show's run, taking away the main character who you have built up so much would be pressing the self destruct button. That 70's Show's later seasons is proof of that.

It would be like Saved By the Bell: The New Class?
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Whoa what? Getting rid of JD and Carla and continuing with the show would just be terrible -- the execs ruining the legacy of a good show for more money.

Didn't That 70's Show do something similar, where Kelso (Ashton Kutcher) and the main character (Eric, I think?) left, but the others still hung out in his basement and stuff? BAH!
That 70s Show died when Kelso and Eric left. Scrubs will be the same when JD and Carla leave. Very possible they could exist without Carla by just using her name in the show but never putting her on camera but there is absolutely no way it can go on with JD.

I probably won't even watch Scrubs if they carry on with them. I'll chose to ignore it ever happened incase it sucks and ruins my memory of the show.
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I wonder if they'd consider a spin off from Scrubs, rather than continuing, revolving around Dr. Cox?
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Noid, you are just wrong. Without JD, Scrubs will not succeed. He is the focal point of the show. He's the mother fucking NARRATOR of the show for christ's sake. To bring in anyone else would just be stupid. Zach Braff makes that show work - anyone else would just be copying him or making the show less than what it is. JD is "Scrubs." Without him, it's nothing. Yes, you have lots of great talented actors, but at this point in the show's run, taking away the main character who you have built up so much would be pressing the self destruct button. That 70's Show's later seasons is proof of that.
I understand what you are saying, but That 70's Show is horrible proof of that. That show was your traditional sitcom. Scrubs is a bit more sweeping, and ambitious as far as plotting goes. Also, as you said, they lost Kelso and Eric. They were pretty much the JD and Dr. Cox of that show. If Scrubs lost both JD and Dr. Cox, then it'd be rough to continue.

I'd at least give Scrubs a chance without the Braffster. The JD character is primarily eyes and ears into hospital life. Yeah, the character has its quirks and stuff, but that is more and more becoming integraded into the very attitude of the show. He is awesome, and part of the reason the show is a big success, but I think the supporting cast -- as the players JD reacts to and the players that react to the current narrator of the story -- are actually far more important than the JD character. They are Sacred Heart. JD is a person walking into Sacred Heart.

Hell, and given how much Zach Braff owes to the show, and how much fun he apparently had making it, I wouldn't put it past him to make two or three appearances a season, like a lot of the other recurring players.
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And I cannot wait for Season 8 to start. Definitinely going to get some illegal downloads for this one. Don't worry, I'll buy the DVD and watch it when it comes on Aussie TV, too. Well, I'll start to watch it on TV, but Channel 7 will fuck around with timeslots every week, and then the DVD will come out, and I'll be like "fuck it."
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:11 AM   #68
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On the DVD box for last season, the description on the back only says "Turk, Elliot and Carla get into all sorts of mischief again.." so take that for what it is.
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I liked the first2 episodes, not bad.

I hate the Interns though, and get the feeling they are going to slowly build them into the new main characters....Which is going to ruin my life because they are so lame and poochy like. Its like they are trying to hard too make them funny....and they fail.
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Elliott's new boyfriend, that Keith character, was merely a way for the creators of the show to find out if they could get rid of JD and replace him with another funny male character. There is, in fact, an entire episode that revolves around him and the other characters while JD literally stays in the background the entire episode.

It didn't work. It won't work. JD is the nucleus of the show, and when you remove the nucleus, well, it's just science.
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Elliott's new boyfriend, that Keith character, was merely a way for the creators of the show to find out if they could get rid of JD and replace him with another funny male character. There is, in fact, an entire episode that revolves around him and the other characters while JD literally stays in the background the entire episode.

It didn't work. It won't work. JD is the nucleus of the show, and when you remove the nucleus, well, it's just science.
I thought that episode worked perfectly. I remember when I saw it the first time and when he's let out of the water tower at the end, I had completely forgotten he was in there

I also watched the new eps earlier and the bit where J.D asks Turk if he knows what to do with him when he dies is one of the funniest gags ever on this show
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:27 PM   #72
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Elliott's new boyfriend, that Keith character, was merely a way for the creators of the show to find out if they could get rid of JD and replace him with another funny male character. There is, in fact, an entire episode that revolves around him and the other characters while JD literally stays in the background the entire episode.

It didn't work. It won't work. JD is the nucleus of the show, and when you remove the nucleus, well, it's just science.
They do that with every side character though. I haven't seen that episode, but until then, don't most Keith gags last like a second and usually involve him being Elliot's bitch? Even his last name, Dudemeister, was obviously written as a gag. I don't really think they ever really intended for this guy to anchor the show as the JD character. They will probably just make the show about Turk dealing with his divorce/the death of Carla or something.
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I thought the two new episodes were good, the second especially
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:46 PM   #76
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A lot of shows have continued to be great successes after the departure/death of a main character. Hell, hasn't ER lost most of its original main cast by now?

If we're talking comedy shows, Cheers survived fine without Coach and Diane. Only Fools and Horses survived and got even better after the death of Grandad. It all depends on the quality of the show. Talented writers will bring closure to the characters, introduce replacements in a natural way, and carry on doing what they do. Then, it comes down to the quality of the scripts.

If a JD/Carla-less season has better scripts than the last season, is funnier, then the show will still be enjoyable. If you ONLY watch Scrubs for JD or Carla, you're not getting the bigger picture.
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:17 PM   #77
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Grandad isn't a comparison it would have to have been Del Boy or Rodney that left. If your talking the main character then its time for the show to die, its got progressivly worse over the years anyway.
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Most of the focal points of the show are pretty JD-centric. JD's relationship arc with Cox, JD and Turk, JD and his relationship arc with Elliot, JD and the janitor. Obviously that is because he was the narrator, but still. If you bring in somebody new at this point, you only have a few residual things left that were mostly just side stories. I think Scrubs could do fine without Carla, or anyone else, but JD would be like Jerry Seinfeld not wanting to be in Seinfeld and them having them call the show Costanza.
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Yeah, to be honest, I don't dislike Carla, but she kind of annoys me.

Scrubs without JD, Turk, or Cox would be hard to enjoy, I think. But I could be wrong.
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Watched the new episodes last night and I liked it
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