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Old 08-16-2012, 12:58 PM   #33521
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:59 PM   #33522
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– With the re-release of No Holds Barred with Zeus and Hulk Hogan, WWE reportedly made a profit of $300,000. According to sources, the company spent around $100,000 on production and marketing for the DVD. They are expecting DVD sales to take the profit up to around $400,000. With that being said, No Holds Barred would become the third most profitable move WWE has put out in the last five years.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:01 PM   #33523
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WWE SummerSlam 2002 - Triple H vs Shawn Michaels... by WWEPROUPLOADER1

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:06 PM   #33524
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Ric Flair defends the World Heavyweight title against Rey Mysterio who at the time held the Cruiserweight title of the World.

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Wrestlemania XIX rematch for the WWE Championship. I was a huge Kurt Angle mark back then.

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:35 PM   #33526
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lol. Virgil is 2-0 at WrestleMania.

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:42 PM   #33527
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Chris Benoit defends his World Heavyweight title against Triple H in an iron man match on RAW. I was scared to death because I didn't want Benoit to lose the match.

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:45 PM   #33528
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Wrestling was banned in my house for a week or so after we witnessed this match. A new ban on wrestling was instated after Edge speared Foley through a table lit on fire.

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Old 08-16-2012, 03:49 PM   #33529
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That Lesnar/Gowan match was incredible.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:18 PM   #33531
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That Lesnar/Gowan match was incredible.
I am not sure if it was "incredible" but it scared the living day lights out of my siblings.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:37 PM   #33532
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:20 PM   #33533
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I am upset that Santino has had such a long United States title reign.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:26 PM   #33534
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why would you possibly be upset about such a thing?
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:27 PM   #33535
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He is a comedy act and barely wins. He doesn't elevate or give importance to the title. Unlike Codswell Rhodes who made the Intercontinental title mean something again.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:32 PM   #33536
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I am upset that Santino has had such a long United States title reign.
I remember reading somewhere that since he's been United States Champion, he's only defended it four times in the space of five months.

Three times against Swagger, though Ziggler was also involved in one of those matches, and once against Otunga. He hasn't defended it since June, but SummerSlam will change that.

I hope Cesaro wins. I like him.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:35 PM   #33537
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Wrestling was banned in my house for a week or so after we witnessed this match. A new ban on wrestling was instated after Edge speared Foley through a table lit on fire.

Nice knife edge chop by Zach's mom at 7:30.

Also lol @ 1:30. TV-PG.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:36 PM   #33538
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I remember reading somewhere that since he's been United States Champion, he's only defended it four times in the space of five months.

Three times against Swagger, though Ziggler was also involved in one of those matches, and once against Otunga. He hasn't defended it since June, but SummerSlam will change that.

I hope Cesaro wins. I like him.
Yeah. I don't think they understand that nobody gives a shit about house shows title defenses.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:40 PM   #33540
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I remember reading somewhere that since he's been United States Champion, he's only defended it four times in the space of five months.

Three times against Swagger, though Ziggler was also involved in one of those matches, and once against Otunga. He hasn't defended it since June, but SummerSlam will change that.

I hope Cesaro wins. I like him.
He defended it against The Miz on one of the PPV preshows too.

I can't say I mind Santino as champion since Santino is pretty great and capable of being pretty badass in the ring. I do hate the fact that they put no effort into actually using his MMA background or something to make him seem like he's a threat to any challengers to the title despite his silly character. Instead they're content in making it seem like he's a champ simply because the company has forgotten to have him defend it against anyone noteworthy.
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He is a comedy act and barely wins. He doesn't elevate or give importance to the title. Unlike Codswell Rhodes who made the Intercontinental title mean something again.
so? the midcard titles haven't really meant anything for ages except when they wanna get behind somebody a bit. And it takes one guy to beat him convincingly and put a bit of life back into the belt for it to "mean something" again. Pro wrestling is a work, the "values" of things change all the time with however they're feeling this month. Not to mention it just doesn't matter and that Santino is more over than most of the roster
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Yeah. I don't think they understand that nobody gives a shit about house shows title defenses.
I think house show title defenses are the reason that they aren't gonna get rid of the two world title system. The ability to have a "world title" match on both Raw and Smackdown brand house shows. I think there are ways around that though. It's not worth having two world titles to water down "being on top".
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Yeah. I don't think they understand that nobody gives a shit about house shows title defenses.
by "nobody", I take it you mean whiny fans on the internet as opposed to the people actually in attendance at the show who are probably quite happy to see title matches
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so? the midcard titles haven't really meant anything for ages except when they wanna get behind somebody a bit. And it takes one guy to beat him convincingly and put a bit of life back into the belt for it to "mean something" again. Pro wrestling is a work, the "values" of things change all the time with however they're feeling this month. Not to mention it just doesn't matter and that Santino is more over than most of the roster
I expect too much. But come on! Santino is not a good champion by any means. He has a very limited move set and he is not even that funny anymore (considering the PG environment). He is annoying and I am not sure if people really find him entertaining or just bare him because of his past "legacy".

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by "nobody", I take it you mean whiny fans on the internet as opposed to the people actually in attendance at the show who are probably quite happy to see title matches
Champions retain their straps 99% of the time. It isn't like people are going to get a surprise result or anything.
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He defended it against The Miz on one of the PPV preshows too.

I can't say I mind Santino as champion since Santino is pretty great and capable of being pretty badass in the ring. I do hate the fact that they put no effort into actually using his MMA background or something to make him seem like he's a threat to any challengers to the title despite his silly character. Instead they're content in making it seem like he's a champ simply because the company has forgotten to have him defend it against anyone noteworthy.
I'm not bothered by Santino as champion either, I would just like to see the title defended more and have a story building around it.

I like that we have Santino and Cesaro somewhat fighting over the title and that it's lead to a title match at SummerSlam.

In my perfect world, there would be more of a reason for them having the match other than what we have right now, which is "Cesaro has beaten Santino twice so he's got a title shot". It's good and basic and it does make sense, and I think the placement on the card as the pre-show is the right place for the match, as I don't think there is that much interest in it.

If there was a strong rivalry between the two guys, with them gaining victories over each other for about two months, then I'm sure it would be on the actual card on Sunday.

I would love to see Cesaro win on Sunday and bring back the European Championship in place of the United States Championship, but the title history would remain as him holding the US Title and not the European. It would gain him so much heat, along with him speaking all the European languages before his matches and him having the old fashioned and clichéd "I'm not from America, so I'm better than you" attitude.

Personally, I think it would be an interesting angle and it could introduce us to a somewhat more serious Santino, who could very well use his MMA background and surprise his opponents and the fans during his matches by using it.
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I expect too much. But come on! Santino is not a good champion by any means. He has a very limited move set and he is not even that funny anymore (considering the PG environment). He is annoying and I am not sure if people really find him entertaining or just bare him because of his past "legacy".
he entertains me/is very good at what he does but I also don't watch the programming very often and don't treat it like an HBO show. And his moveset means jack shit, he's not there to put on Daniel Bryan-esque matches, he's there because he's fucking over. If you find him annoying, that's fine but the fact he's in the spot he's in shows that's far from the case for everybody else.

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Champions retain their straps 99% of the time. It isn't like people are going to get a surprise result or anything.
and? this means that they're worthless? it means it adds nothing to the match? you think a 9 year old kid at his first show thinks the champion is clearly going to win because titles never change hands on house shows? you think the know-it-all fan from the internet thinks it's still a dead cert the title won't change hands at the precise moment when he completely bites on a nearfall? some of the things that get complained about on the internet are staggering.
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I would just like to remind everyone how much I dislike Santino, because I don't find him funny
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:21 PM   #33548
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I love the idea of Cesaro calling the US title "the European title" if he wins it. Plastering the flag of a different European country over the stars and stripes on it every time he's seen with it. That would be money. And whoever took the belt off of him would just be that much more over for doing it.
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I would just like to remind everyone how much I dislike Santino, because I don't find him funny
How dare you, sir.
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Personally, I think the guy is brilliant at what he does. Even if he is put in shitty, ridiculously corny comedy segments the man performs the hell out of them. They certainly don't fail because of him.
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I'm with Skippord. Really don't like Santino.
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He's currently like a great actor in a shitty movie.
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he entertains me/is very good at what he does but I also don't watch the programming very often and don't treat it like an HBO show. And his moveset means jack shit, he's not there to put on Daniel Bryan-esque matches, he's there because he's fucking over. If you find him annoying, that's fine but the fact he's in the spot he's in shows that's far from the case for everybody else.



and? this means that they're worthless? it means it adds nothing to the match? you think a 9 year old kid at his first show thinks the champion is clearly going to win because titles never change hands on house shows? you think the know-it-all fan from the internet thinks it's still a dead cert the title won't change hands at the precise moment when he completely bites on a nearfall? some of the things that get complained about on the internet are staggering.
Won't change the fact that I dislike him as Champion and don't like title matches at house shows.
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The fuck Igin? How dare you hate Sanino? He is so over.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:48 PM   #33555
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Santino is pretty great with his comedic role and does have the crowd interested in his matches especially for the Cobra spot. Only issue is him being a champion neither has helped nor hurt him to the point there is no real reason why he's the US champ.

Same for when Swagger was the US champ before since that didn't help him at all but for Ryder, it was huge because his buildup against Ziggler was for that special moment to become the champion.

Assuming the rumors of the WWE feelings towards Ceasrio is true, most likely Santino's reign ends this Sunday.
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Santino should beat Cesaro via the cobra and then start an angle where Cesaro claims Santino had a steel tip in the cobra glove and should be stripped of the title. That just came to mind for some reason.
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The fuck Igin? How dare you hate Sanino? He is so over.
Iggy isn't the one making out that a guy can't possibly be liked just because he doesn't like him clever boy. You do most some monumentally dense things at times
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