08-24-2015, 03:00 PM | #761 |
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Not saying WWE does things right, basically all their midcard matches are pointless.
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08-24-2015, 03:16 PM | #762 |
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08-24-2015, 03:19 PM | #763 |
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Call it finisher tolerance
If you hit a wrestler with a finisher the first time it murders them, but by the time they've been hit with it 100000 times they build up some immunity to it Only logical explanation |
08-24-2015, 03:32 PM | #764 |
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I like Drofords explanation.
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08-24-2015, 03:39 PM | #765 |
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08-24-2015, 03:40 PM | #766 |
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How do you explain the RKO? The mostly deadly finisher there is.
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08-24-2015, 03:41 PM | #767 |
In His hands...
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The Venom from The Viper cancels out any tolerance.
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08-24-2015, 03:51 PM | #768 | |
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08-24-2015, 03:59 PM | #769 |
In His hands...
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08-24-2015, 04:00 PM | #770 |
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Sheamus' pasty white skin must be an antidote
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08-24-2015, 04:20 PM | #771 |
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Ugh did Sheamus kick out of an RKO last night? ...Dunno what to believe in now.
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08-24-2015, 04:25 PM | #772 |
Loque Ja
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Did he really? I missed that match...
Has anyone ever kicked out of an RKO? Probably John Cena... |
08-24-2015, 04:28 PM | #773 |
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08-24-2015, 04:30 PM | #774 |
Loque Ja
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08-24-2015, 04:33 PM | #775 |
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I imagine Undertaker probably kicked out of it in their WM match... can't remember.... but that was before it gained Viper Powers anyways....
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08-24-2015, 05:07 PM | #776 |
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I think it would be fucking awesome if someone came out to a theme composed by Mike Post. I mean a totally custom song, not, say Hill Street Blues (altough that would STILL rule).
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08-24-2015, 05:16 PM | #777 |
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Why the Lesnar/Taker finish was ideal:
Why the Lesnar/Taker finish was ideal:
Like I said - you can't have Lesnar squash Taker again due to Taker's legacy in the WWE. Taker would have looked like a bitch had Lesnar completely dominated again. To show respect to Taker, the WWE absolutely did the right thing in having Taker come back to stand up to Lesnar. On the flip side - it would have been inappropriate for a 50 year old Taker to go over cleanly over Lesnar. Hence - Lesnar still got the better of Taker at Summerslam, even though Taker got in his offense as well. Even though Taker was shown to tap out, Taker was made to look strong enough to compete with Lesnar and choke him out with Hell's gate. Wrestlemania will be in Taker's home state this year and will likely be Taker's last match. Taker will job once again to Brock at Wrestlemania, as it will be best for business. By having Brock pre-occupied with Taker, it allows Roman Reigns to face either Seth Rollins or John Cena for the title......while giving Reigns the win. At the Wrestlemania after this one (2017), you can have Reigns go up against Lesnar again for the WWE/World title. Hopefully by this time, Reigns will be a little more mature in terms of his wrestling ability and charisma. |
08-24-2015, 05:58 PM | #778 |
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Or you could just not book the match.
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08-24-2015, 06:27 PM | #779 |
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Nobody has any interest in another taker match.the guy has had an amazing career but the mystique of lesnar taker was foiled when taker already has wrestled at mania since the streak got busted. A wrestlemania win over taker does nothing for lesnar.
And once again wwe shit on their own product not putting the wwe title in the main event. And I think you are still high off the asian milf pussy scents or the no tears shampoo of her child because reigns is getting booed into oblivion and still cant win over a crowd |
08-24-2015, 06:42 PM | #780 |
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You guys weren't entertained by Taker/Lesnar last night? I certainly was, and the theater I went to was greatly entertained as well. Wrestlemania will be in Undertaker's home state of Texas. It will likely be Taker's last match, and Taker will likely lose to Brock a la Flair/HBK a la HBK/Taker. It will be a true Wrestlemania moment. After all that Undertaker has done of this business and the WWE, he deserves a final farewell in his home state, along with a proper Ric Flair-like send-off. Sorry, but I completely disagree with you here. |
08-24-2015, 06:46 PM | #781 |
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There really doesn't need to be a third Undertake vs. Lesnar.
Taker "won", but Brock got the "moral victory." It would be more interesting if Undertaker gloated about his victory, only for Brock to be like "whatever, you know I won, I'm done with you." Taker could get angry that no one gives him credit for beating the beast, which could lead to a bitter, biker-esque Taker run. It could work. |
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It's not about Lesnar. It's about giving Taker a WM match in his home state of Texas. After what Taker has done for this business, he fully deserves it. Lesnar beating the streak is one thing, but Lesnar retiring the Undertaker is another. It will be a huge Wrestlemania moment, like HBK/Flair or Taker/HBK. Quote:
No, they did not. The fans in both the arena and in my theater were greatly entertained. Quote:
LOL. True (about Reigns), but the child demographic can easily be influenced. Cena gets booed royally by everyone, but kids love the guy. Why can't kids grow to love Reigns one day? (Or have the WWE cater/tailor Roman Reigns towards kids as they did with Cena back in 2005). |
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08-24-2015, 06:52 PM | #783 |
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I don't think you guys really comprehend the Wrestling business if you don't see value in Undertaker
1) Wrestling one final match in his home state of Texas 2) Lesnar retiring the Undertaker 3) Another Flair/HBK / HBK/Taker moment being created 4) A potential Ric Flair-like send off for Undertaker the next night on RAW. Another added benefit in not having Lesnar in the main-event, is that it gives both Reigns and Rollins another year to really develop their characters and mature as wrestlers.........so that in 2017 when one of these guys DOES face Lesnar in the main-event of Wrestlemania (and goes over clean), they will truly be ready to be the new face of the WWE. |
08-24-2015, 07:28 PM | #784 | |
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08-24-2015, 07:35 PM | #785 |
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Couldn't you get the same (or bigger) Mania moment at Cowboy Stadium against Cena? That would at least be a Mania match we've never seen before. Why sacrifice Lesnar to a guy who only likely has one match left when you could have given the rub of beating him to almost literally anyone else? I get why they went with the finish they went with. I don't get why they went with the match in the first place.
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08-24-2015, 07:40 PM | #786 | |
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"Guys how can we let Rollins keep the belt after his match with Brock tomorrow?" "ummmm uhhh- MakeTakerInterfere!" |
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08-24-2015, 07:54 PM | #787 | |
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1) I agree about Cena/Taker, but I think there's something to be said about Taker having his final match ever in front of his home state of Texas. 2) Lesnar - Lesnar will ultimately be used to put someone over at Mania, but the timing and opponent has to be right. Outside of Cena, Reigns is really only that guy in my opinion. I would rather see Reigns go over Cena or Rollins for the title at this Wrestlemania 2016, and then have Reigns look extremely dominant between Wrestlemania 2016-2017. This will also give Reigns some more time to develop as a wrestler and performer. In the mean-time, you can have Lesnar "end" Undertaker at Wrestlemania 2016, and then have him destroy other guys during 2016 (i.e. Cena again, and perhaps Reigns' good buddy Dean Ambrose). THEN - you can have Reigns go over Lesnar cleanly at Wrestlemania 2017. |
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08-24-2015, 08:38 PM | #788 |
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Dude you are so hung up on rollins v reigns as your 3w main event that you are blindly booking out of your ass.
Why sacrifice lesnar When taker could wrestle the fucking barbarian or warlord at mania and get his send off. The opponent matters not. And the least he could do is lose the beer gut And you are thinking of having reigns go over lesnar clean at 33 in lesnars hometown and you think THAT is gonna go over well? |
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Because, outside of Cena, Reigns, and Rollins, there really isn't anyone else that is worthy of main-eventing Mania right now. Lesnar will be pre-occupied with Taker, while guys like Rusev, Bray Wyatt, Cesaro, etc., won't realistically be built up enough between now and Mania' to be worthy of such a spot. Nor will Kevin Owens, and I doubt that the WWE will re-push Sheamus or Orton to that level. So - you either go with Reigns-Rollins, or Reigns-Cena. I personally think they'll do Reigns-Rollins at Mania. Quote:
Because, Taker and Lesnar are already in a heated rivalry. Either one of Lesnar or Taker going cleanly over the other guy at Summerslam would have been a bad decision. Lesnar going over Taker would have been bad since it would've continued to make Taker look weak, while giving him limited momentum heading into Mania' in his home state (to which, he'd either go over some random mid-carder in a lackluster match - his final match - OR, go up against John Cena......and hence - sort of ending his career on a sour note due to consecutive losses to different wrestlers). On the flip side - Lesnar losing cleanly would have been a horrible booking decision since you need to keep Lesnar strong once he inevitably does a job to either Reigns or Rollins at Wrestlemania 2017. Taker-Lesnar at Wrestlemania 2016 is perfect, because there's emotion behind Taker's last match in his home state, while it also further adds to Lesnar's legacy because he was the guy to end Taker's streak AND his career. Quote:
I didn't realize Wrestlemania 2017 was going to be in Lesnar's hometown. Regardless - I'd still have Reigns go over. Cena's been in environments just as hostile at Reigns would be in this scenario, and the 'kid' demographic still loved Cena. |
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08-25-2015, 01:40 PM | #790 |
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08-25-2015, 01:44 PM | #791 |
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Would've felt better about Taker/Lesnar at Mania 32had Taker lost a close match last night. Could use the "I have to know" gimmick, drawing out Lesnar one more time only to lose for the final time.
Or have him lose last night, allow Brock to moveon, and have Taker answer a Cena challenge at Mania to give it one more go at taking out a top guy. |
08-25-2015, 01:46 PM | #792 |
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would have felt ok with taker/lesnar at 32 if.... taker hadn't fought wyatt at mania 31
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08-25-2015, 07:30 PM | #793 |
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Yeah, sorry Heyman; but I'm not on board with Taker vs. Lesnar VIII or whatever it is now. I'm just not wrapped up in that story. Taker is almost certainly going to wrestle at Mania, but I'm not sure who they put him against. The best suggestion I've seen is actually Shawn Michaels. Fuck it, I'd take Luke Harper before Brock Lesnar at this point.
The money match for Lesnar is against Stone Cold Steve Austin. |
08-26-2015, 03:53 AM | #794 | |
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Few things: 1) HBK said that he will never wrestle again 2) Austin will never wrestle again as he is too physically crippled (although I have heard contrasting reports that state that Austin *would* come back for one last match if the storyline was right?). 3) The problem with most people not wanting Taker/Lesnar at Mania', is that they think that Taker can simply job like a bitch to Brock (again), and then expect the fans to be excited at the idea of Taker fighting someone at Wrestlemania. Unfortunately, that's not how things work......which leads me to #4. 4) On the other side of the spectrum, you can't have Lesnar job to 50 year old Taker because this makes Brock look really bad.....and now all that time you spent re-building the credibility of Brock over the past two years, takes a major hit. The WWE's biggest goal should be to make both Undertaker and Lesnar look very strong for a few reasons: A) By having Lesnar look strong, and having him be the guy that ends BOTH the streak and career of Taker, it further adds to Brock's legacy, while also making the guy that eventually does go over Brock, look even MORE credibile. B) By having Taker look strong, and not looking like a complete bitch by not getting revenge on Brock, it pays respects to Undertaker's career and legacy. A guy that his given his life to the WWE, should not be made to look like a bitch. Hence - I'm glad that Taker was made to look like he pushed Lesnar at Summerslam. A 3rd match adds to the Taker/Lesnar rivalry, and Taker will also get his wish of "giving back to the business" when he does his final JOB to Brock in front of his hometown fans. The WWE Universe then gets treated to another Ric Flair-esque retirement the next night on RAW. For all these reasons, I think Taker/Brock III (IV if you count 2003) is by far the best way to go. |
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08-26-2015, 07:01 AM | #795 | |
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I'm not saying any of those guys are likely to be options looked at by Vince and/or Triple H, but I wanted to at least try and think outside the box of guys you listed. And, yeah, Cena? As world champ? AGAIN?! No disrespect, Heyman, but, yeah...nobody wants to see that again. NOBODY. |
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08-26-2015, 06:32 PM | #796 |
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Heyman is making the most sense in here
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08-26-2015, 06:35 PM | #797 | |
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08-26-2015, 06:45 PM | #798 | |
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Bro - I would LOVE it if the WWE pushed Ambrose a la Daniel Bryan style. I just don't see it happening right now unfortunately. And no - I *don't* want to see Cena become champ again (maybe 1-2 extremely brief runs so that he ties/breaks Flair's record), but other than that, I want one of Reigns/Rollins to be the next guy. |
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08-26-2015, 06:59 PM | #799 |
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I think your 73 recycled posts about it lets us all know that you want reigns. The masses don't. Not now.
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08-26-2015, 08:29 PM | #800 | |
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It's not about what I want you little fuck boy. It's about what the WWE will most likely do. Reigns will either go over Rollins or Cena at Mania this year, while Lesnar will retire Taker. In 2017, Reigns will make Brock Lesnar suck his dick in front of Lesnar's hometown fans. Hence - making Reigns the new Cena, while making Lesnar HIV positive. #74 |
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