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Old 06-15-2011, 09:30 PM   #16641
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:42 PM   #16650
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Daniel Bryan is an interesting case, especially because of his look. When he's in there with someone like Sheamus, he looks insanely out of place. Same thing with Zeke, and to a lesser extent, Barrett. But put him next to Cody, Ted, or Cara, he fits in perfectly.

WWE could really benefit from bringing back the lightweight title. Mainly because it'd give some people a legitimate title to fight over, and build feuds between people who otherwise wouldn't have anything going on. I mean, I could see Bryan, Cara, etc, wining the US Title, but what about people like Barretta, Kidd, Chavo, Tatsu, etc? They pretty much have a stacked lightweight/junior division, but they don't and can't acknowledge it.
I'm gonna play devils advocate here, even though a competitive Cruiser division on Smackdown would be money.

If WWE starts to label guys like Bryan, Rhodes, Sin Cara, Chavo, Tatsu, Kidd, etc... as Junior's then that's what they are. Just like in WCW the idea of Rey winning the World Title is laughable. But in WWE it became very plausible and no big deal. It would be hard for Cody Rhodes to go from Cruisweight Champ to World Champ for example, just in the eyes of the fans after they get used to him in the lighter division.
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:19 PM   #16655
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I'm gonna play devils advocate here, even though a competitive Cruiser division on Smackdown would be money.

If WWE starts to label guys like Bryan, Rhodes, Sin Cara, Chavo, Tatsu, Kidd, etc... as Junior's then that's what they are. Just like in WCW the idea of Rey winning the World Title is laughable. But in WWE it became very plausible and no big deal. It would be hard for Cody Rhodes to go from Cruisweight Champ to World Champ for example, just in the eyes of the fans after they get used to him in the lighter division.
I'll agree with you on Cody, only because he MIGHT have a bigger future. But then you have guys like Bryan, Tatsu, Kidd, Baretta, Slater, Gabriel, Bourne, Hawkins (he may be too big, can't think off the top of my head). Most of those guys are never going to be world champion. The beauty of it is though, IF they do reach that level, it's not a hard build up.

Example 1. Just have someone clear out the division. If someone becomes so dominant, they could start facing bigger guys to prove themselves. AKA, someone who is too "big" (ego) for the divison.

Example 2. Royal Rumble winner.

Example 3. Royal Rumble Elimination. Have a cruiser eliminate a big name in the Rumble. HAve the big name challenge them, have the cruiser win. If the big name wins the title or something later, the feud is already built.

Example 4. Money in the bank.

There are ways to move a cruiser into the main event, if needed.

Furthermore, one of the reasons Mysterio as champ in WCW would have been a joke was because for the most part, he was treated crappy outside the division. He was lawn darted into things by Nash, etc. They were never meant to be taken seriously outside of the division. WWE could (but probably wouldn't) build the division as a group of superstars who are credible threats to people. This just have to emphasize that the class is based on weight.
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Old 06-16-2011, 12:00 AM   #16663
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:09 AM   #16665
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– In a story about WWE Tough Enough winner Andy Leavine on WWE.com, they point out that he will be heading to FCW to “fine tune his skills.”


It's been reported that Andy was already in FCW, wrestling under a different name, before Tough Enough.

What a joke.

They really didn't bring in an outside guy at all.

It's all rigged. I mean, on one hand, I gotta give the WWE props for picking a possible future replacement down the road for Undertaker in his size, etc, and not another pretty boy.

But, everytime I read stuff like this, I just see it as it is.

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Hey bro. Wrestling in general is rigged. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but I just see it as it is.
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:27 AM   #16667
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:57 AM   #16668
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Oh man.

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that some of the guys had opted out of their FCW contracts (which aren't always WWE development deals I think) in order to compete in Tough Enough.
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I am surprised that anybody is surprised by this shocking revelation.

I hope they don't introduce Tyler Black to the WWE Universe in this shoddy fashion.
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:36 AM   #16673
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:52 AM   #16674
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Well, he won and he's back to where he was where he started? Seems about right since he didn't deserve to win to begin with.
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Old 06-16-2011, 07:31 AM   #16675
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Everyone was so eager to jump on the sarcasm express and shit all over the poster, that it seems most of you missed the point AEF was trying to make.

Season 1 of Tough Enough was, for all intents and purposes, a "reality" show. They found flat out nobodies and turned them into superstars overnight... if you recall, Maven got a lot of shit and resentment for winning a job "overnight" most guys in the 'E at the time worked the better part of a decade or more to get.

Season 2 and foward sought to eliminate some of the preliminary "dead weight" (and some of the backstage resentment) by asking participants to actually HAVE a wrestling background, but still, it was moving towards a shot at working WWE, which none of them did.

What Mr. Fan was trying to say, though not so elegantly, was that now, it's pretty much a joke- an angle. Not only are the guys in the "competition" ALREADY more or less under contract with the company via FCW, but that it seemed that this guy was already given the keys to the kingdom before the first episode was even in the can. It's not so much the "GASP! IT'S SCRIPTED?!" reaction, it's the fact that Tough Enough, like NXT, the whole production is a total angle from start to finish designed to do the work that vignettes for debuting wrestlers used to. (Example, NXT 1 was merely a tool to set up all those guys for the Nexus angle... didn't truly matter that Barrett "won", they all got called up anyway.) A far cry from the original show.

They could essentially just eliminate all this "stupidity" and fabricated "contests" simply by televising FCW.
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Old 06-16-2011, 07:36 AM   #16676
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And the point you're missing is wrestling is scripted as fuck.
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Everyone was so eager to jump on the sarcasm express and shit all over the poster, that it seems most of you missed the point AEF was trying to make.

Season 1 of Tough Enough was, for all intents and purposes, a "reality" show. They found flat out nobodies and turned them into superstars overnight... if you recall, Maven got a lot of shit and resentment for winning a job "overnight" most guys in the 'E at the time worked the better part of a decade or more to get.

Season 2 and foward sought to eliminate some of the preliminary "dead weight" (and some of the backstage resentment) by asking participants to actually HAVE a wrestling background, but still, it was moving towards a shot at working WWE, which none of them did.

What Mr. Fan was trying to say, though not so elegantly, was that now, it's pretty much a joke- an angle. Not only are the guys in the "competition" ALREADY more or less under contract with the company via FCW, but that it seemed that this guy was already given the keys to the kingdom before the first episode was even in the can. It's not so much the "GASP! IT'S SCRIPTED?!" reaction, it's the fact that Tough Enough, like NXT, the whole production is a total angle from start to finish designed to do the work that vignettes for debuting wrestlers used to. (Example, NXT 1 was merely a tool to set up all those guys for the Nexus angle... didn't truly matter that Barrett "won", they all got called up anyway.) A far cry from the original show.

They could essentially just eliminate all this "stupidity" and fabricated "contests" simply by televising FCW.
Seems that you are missing the point about TAEFan coming in periodically only for us to neg rep him and make us feel good about it.
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So what you're saying is, you're not above ruining a thread to make yourself feel better. Is this the kind of KoTWF you want tpww? Let me take this to the Wrestling Forum Champion thread
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:34 AM   #16679
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Not everyone in FCW will make it to the big time of WWE.

I think what Andy Leavine did was smart. He asked for his release from FCW so he could become a contestant on Tough Enough and compete against only 13 other contestants, some you just knew wouldn't win.

Doing that made his chances of making it to the WWE a lot greater as the WWE does have the habit of giving contracts to people who don't even win the shows. So even if he didn't win, he'd have a better chance of getting a WWE contract over waiting around in FCW for a few years, hoping someone notices him and calls him up to the WWE and before being released from his FCW contract happens.

Also, it allowed him to be trained by Booker T & Co. That's not bad either.
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So what you're saying is, you're not above ruining a thread to make yourself feel better. Is this the kind of KoTWF you want tpww? Let me take this to the Wrestling Forum Champion thread
What I am saying is that I love WWE and this forum and make sure a vindictive fan doesn't belittle it. I am fighting for you guys, and this is why I deserve to be KotWF.
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