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Old 10-14-2010, 11:10 PM   #1
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Surprising Heel Turns and Its Success and Failures!!!
Over the years, there were a lot of turns in pro wrestling. For this topic, I would like to discuss people who we thought at the time would be faces for life (like Ricky Steamboat), would by surprise, turn heel.

I'll start with the two heel turns that no one knew was coming...

April 20, 1988: Barry Windham, a longtime babyface at this point in time, made a surprising heel turn by betraying Lex Luger, losing the NWA World Tag Team Championship back to Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard, joining the Four Horsemen. The heel turn worked.

August 21, 1995: Davey Boy Smith, a longtime babyface at this point in time, made a surprising heel turn by betraying Diesel, who was asked by Smith to substitute for Lex Luger, losing to Men On A Mission, and joining Jim Cornette's group, which also included his brother-in-law Owen Hart. The heel turn worked.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:14 PM   #2
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:23 PM   #4
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December 4, 1993: Shane Douglas, a longtime face at this point in time, made a surprising heel turn by attacking Tommy Dreamer after losing the NWA ECW Tag Team Championship to Kevin Sullivan and The Tazmaniac. Douglas was subbing for Johnny Gunn. The heel turn worked.
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John Cena's turn on the IWC was a complete success.
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John Cena's turn on the IWC was a complete success.
Xero, if you're going to mock this thread, it's not going to work with me.
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Xero, if you're going to mock this thread, it's not going to work with me.
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October 15th, 2010: DLVH84 turned on Xero via srs lowblow. The success of the heel turn is TBD (not Tb1).
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September 19, 1999: Sting, a longtime babyface, turned heel by using a baseball bat on Hulk Hogan to win the WCW World Heavyweight title, alligning with longtime friend Lex Luger. The heel turn failed.
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Surprised this thread hasn't listed 500 Japan turns.

You know, because DLVH loves shoving it in peoples' faces that he watches Japanese wrestling.
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Well, not only I love Japanese wrestling, I've also follow pro wrestling from Canada, Mexico, and Europe.
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Did you just turn heel on Japan?
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The heel turn worked.
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No, I will never turn on Japan, CSL. If you guys don't want to take this thread seriously, then just don't post anything.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:37 PM   #16
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I posted a joke. Not a good one, but still, a joke. You blew it WAYYYY out of proportion. You're taking this shit too seriously, dude.
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If I stopped posting now, that could be construed as turning heel on my keyboard bro
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15th October, 2010: VSG turned heel on the truth (not Ron Killings)
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I posted a joke. Not a good one, but still, a joke. You blew it WAYYYY out of proportion. You're taking this shit too seriously, dude.
Okay, Xero, I apologize. It's just that sometimes, people get to me, mocking my expertise and knowledge.
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Okay, Xero, I apologize. It's just that sometimes, people get to me, mocking my expertise and knowledge.
And yet you keep posting shit like that that make people want to do so.
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15th October, 2010: VSG turned heel on the truth (not Ron Killings)
I created Destro 3.0 btw. How's that for a heel, albeit a failed, turn?
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Okay, Xero, I apologize. It's just that sometimes, people get to me, mocking my expertise and knowledge.
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Okay, Xero, I apologize. It's just that sometimes, people get to me, mocking my expertise and knowledge.
Your expertise and knowledge? Or your copy & paste skills?
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Surprising heel turns for me:

Hogan - 1996 : Say no more. 50/50 with the work bit because fans loved him as a heel.
Austin- 2001: Shocking, didn't expect him to join McMahon at WM X-7. Turn didn't work as he had good reaction.
Jeff Hardy - 2010: Super marked out when he is in "They". he only just turned heel give it a chance.
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About Ric Flair's "Fortune".

Why are these guys showing the 4 Horsemen sign?

It makes absolutely no sense considering there are 7 of them.

I just read that on wiki as I don't watch it, but shiiiit.
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PAUL ORNDORFF TURNING ON HULK

ANDRE TURNING ON HULK

HBK TURNING ON MARTY JANNETTY
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About Ric Flair's "Fortune".

Why are these guys showing the 4 Horsemen sign?

It makes absolutely no sense considering there are 7 of them.

I just read that on wiki as I don't watch it, but shiiiit.
Actually they don't use the Four Horsemen sign. They put all their fingers up except the ring finger. Looks like a retard came up with the concept.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:58 AM   #35
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I created Destro 3.0 btw. How's that for a heel, albeit a failed, turn?
I like how this "heel turn" failed miserable
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To an extent a surprise turn was the Bret Hart Vs. Stone Cold match that ended with Bret a heel and Austin a face.
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Actually they don't use the Four Horsemen sign. They put all their fingers up except the ring finger. Looks like a retard came up with the concept.
I can't even do that without some of my other fingers bending down.

Back to the thread, adding on to the one's already mentioned

*Ron Garvin @ Bash 88. It was Rhodes against Windham. Garvin had been feuding with the Horsemen previously with his brother Jimmy. Around this time, The Garvins were feuding with Kevin Sullivan and his group. Ron Garvin had participated in the Tower of Doom match earlier in the show. During the Rhodes/Windham US Title match, ref takes a bump, Garvin comes out and lays out Rhodes with a right. Windham takes the match, Garvin takes the money from Dillon. This was short lived however as Garvin went to WWF soon after and was pretty much jobbed out. lol


*Hayes on Von Erich in 1982: If you have the World Class DVD, you've seen this. Christmas Night. Kerry vs Flair for the Title. Hayes was the ref. Kerry collides into Hayes by accident. Gordy slams the cage door into Kerry and the Birds turn heel. The rest is history.


*Luger on Steamboat (Crockett 89): It was at one of the Clash's. I want to say VII or VIII. I believe Steamboat wrestled Funk in the main event. After the match Luger came out and pretended to help Steamboat up and closelined him into the 2nd row. I believe the turned stemmed from Steamboat being ahead of Lex in the World Title rankings. Luger would go on to dominate the US Title scene afterwards. Steamboat would leave Crockett shortly.


*Funk on Flair (Crockett 89) Love this turn. tremendous turn and then feud afterwards. Flair wrestled Steamboat for the NWA Title at Wrestlewar 89. Terry Funk was one of the guest officials or judges. whatever they called it. Flair wins the match and afterwards, Terry asks for a Title match. Flair says nope, you have to get in line. Funk was like who the fuck are you and beats the crap out of Flair. He finished him off by piledriving Flair through a table. Classic turn. The storyline fllowing this was amazing


*Tatanka turns on Luger: Summerslam 1994. Leading up to Summerslam, Tatanka had been claiming that Luger had sold out to Dibiase. And it was one of those deals where Luger had been seen as a heel numerous times in the past that you kind of had to believe Tatanka. Tatanka was that super babyface type character. At the PPV, Dibiase comes out during the Luger/Tatanka match. Luger gets distracted and Tatanka rolls him up for the pin. After the match, Dibiase gets in the ring and Luger grabs him. Tatanka attacks Dibiase from behind and it turns out he was the one who sold out. It was pretty well executed. But Tatanka didn't do much afterwards


Cornette turns on the Dynamic Dudes: You can also call this a surprising babyface turn based on the reaction. Anyway, the backstory was Cornette wanted to manage the Dynamic Dudes as well as the Midnight Express. The Midnight Express got mad and forced a match between the two teams at Clash of Champions. Well during the match, Cornette picked a side and bashed his racket over one of the dudes. This was suppossed to lead to the crowd booing him, but instead they popped like mad. You see, the crowd hated the Dymanic Dudes. They were the John Cena of 2006. So instead of getting the Dudes over as babyfaces, it actually got the Midnight Express over as babyfaces.


Bearer on Taker: Summerslam 96: You've all seen this. Bearer nails Taker in the head with the urn and joins Mankind. This leads to the awesome Kane feud.


The rest I'll list are turns most of you probably have seen and know the whole story

HHH turns on X-pac Mania 15

Rock turns on everyone: Survivor Series 98

HBK turns on DX and X-pac. He joins the Corporation: Raw 98 or maybe early 99.

Rico turns on Billy and Chuck: Smackdown 2002. Have to mention this because this whole angle was so well excecuted. DID SOMEBODY SAY...3 MINUTES?????

Radicals turn on Foley: Raw 2000 I believe.

ECW (WWF guys) turn on WWF. Raw 2001. We all remember this. One of the best moments in wrestling history. top 10 for sure.

Heyman turns on Lesnar: Survivor Series 03? I think that was the one.
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Also let us not forget when cigarette smuggling turned heel on Dino Bravo.
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