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Old 09-26-2013, 02:52 AM   #48841
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I swear I want to smack people in the head who think The Shield are going to be stars. They aren't. At all. MAYBE Roman Reigns, but his mic skills are atrocious.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:00 AM   #48842
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Ambrose should be a staple in the upper-midcard scene. He can work the mic and he's great in his role. He really can be like a new-age "Loose Cannon" Brian Pillman. Reigns has the size but he's not very interesting.

In NO way should any of them even be considered to face The Rock or Stone Cold at WrestleMania. It's so far above them it's crazy.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:01 AM   #48843
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Lol well they beat Ryback, Sheamus and Cena.....and then lost to the Usos and Christian.
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The fact that Ryback was used to put them over is fucking mind-blowing.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:12 AM   #48845
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The fact Ryback put over Mark Henry at Wrestlemania and then ZERO came of it is even worse.
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But it's Ryback's fault that his push got derailed. Not the fact that they took advantage of the first legit "next big thing" they've had in years getting ridiculous pops by jobbing him out non-stop for almost a year straight.

... Fuck this company.
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Me and Gertner definitely need to do some sort of armchair booking thing. It would probably be pretty incredible.
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So you want The Rock's big WrestleMania match and Steve Austin's long-awaited return... to be used in a 6 man match against The Shield.

Good Lord.
If they aren't up to working a full-length match on their own, absolutely.
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Dean Ambrose is far more interesting than Ryback has ever been. Ever.
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The fact Ryback put over Mark Henry at Wrestlemania and then ZERO came of it is even worse.
Ryback putting over Mark Henry was a weird decision, I'll give you that. Actually probably should have been a squash completely in Ryback's favor to announce that "he's arrived." He actually should have been facing Big Show at WrestleMania, but whatever.
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But yeah, Ryback has never really interested me. The only time I found him slightly interesting (until recently) was when he was part of the Nexus, but I found most of that group interesting.
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Most of all, I'm kind of over part-time mega-stars only interacting with other top stars in less-than-interesting ways. I don't really want to see Rock vs. Brock. Yeah, the match puts two big stars in the ring together, but I'd rather see Brock Lesnar against Daniel Bryan or The Rock facing Dolph Ziggler at this point. I want to see new stars made through interaction with these big names; not just have the big stars exist in their own paradigm away from the full-time roster.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:23 AM   #48855
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I'm trying to remember that. I remember there were rumors that Jindrak would be in Evolution, but that never happened, did it? Whatever happened to that guy? I remember his "Reflection of Perfection" stuff, which was pretty much contained to Velocity and him beating guys with The Mark of Excellence and doing not much else, but nothing after that.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:26 AM   #48856
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Jindrak went to Mexico as Marco Corlone and is huge down there.
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I kind of thought that RVD had a real good shot at beating ADR for the WHC at NOC, but then he kind of lost. I think the natural progression of the feud would have lent itself to RVD winning there and defending against Del Rio at Battleground. Given that they haven't put the World Title on RVD yet, and he's set to be taking time off soon, do you think they'll have Del Rio beat RVD at Battleground?

If that's the case, can anyone else see the WWE putting Rey Mysterio over Del Rio sometime in the future, giving him another reign with the World Title and trying to pass him off as a true hero to Hispanic people? Then Damien Sandow will attack Rey down the line after he defeats Del Rio once and for all and cashes in to become the World Heavyweight Champion and then beats Rey a few times before moving onto something else.
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Jindrak went to Mexico if I believe.
Thanks. He'd probably look like a giant down there. Well, unless you compare him against the other big guys that go down there to look like giants.

Just did a search on Jindrak. Apparently he is in Mexico and he has the highest vertical leap in WWE history. He's only 36. The WWE could probably bring him back under a mask and he could be fairly amazing. I can't remember much about the dude's work, though. I never remember being particularly impressed.
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Gertner, what do you think of TNA? Do you think they are on the right path with anything? What would you change?
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I'm trying to remember that. I remember there were rumors that Jindrak would be in Evolution, but that never happened, did it?
I've watched the formation of Evolution quite recently so it's fresh in my mind how it happened. HHH & Flair were together, Flair had Batista catch his eye and there was some loose connection with Orton. Then Orton and Batista got injured.


Couple of months later, Orton is back and teaming with HHH/Flair. They teased a fourth member for a while, but Batista was still out during that time. According to a shoot interview by Jindrak, he was going to be that fourth guy and had done all the filming for the tron and everything ready for him to be unveiled, but they waited for Batista instead.


Didn't really believe it until I saw that picture as they never seemed high on Jindrak at all. Not sure if the video version is available
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TNA suffers from having great ideas and horrible finishes. The Aces and 8's idea was cool, but then it just drizzles out. They do this crap constantly. AJ and Dixie are kinda interesting, but I'm not the biggest AJ fan. TNA does too much stop and starting and I believe Dixie is in over her head and they need to spend money on a good booker. They had Dutch Mantell right under their nose who I think is terrific.

I know this is a crazy idea, but id bring in Raven to book.
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I think Raven has got some great views on professional wrestling. If they get rid of Hogan come October, then he'd make a great change of pace. He'd also make a great commentator for their show, I think. I used to love Tazz, but his work with Mike Tenay kind of meanders. Small gripes, but I do think they are important to the aesthetic of a show.

Dutch was apparently behind the Knockouts Division in its early stages, which was some of the best booking TNA has ever had. I wish the WWE would let him and Heyman work more actively in creative roles in the WWE, but their booking at the moment is fine really.
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AJ was the wrong pick to win the BFG Series, in my opinion. I know he was the clear choice and there's been a story of him not being able to challenge and all that, but I think the best option would have actually been Austin Aries.

Bobby Roode is a heel, so he was out from the start. Magnus had a really strong start and has come along nicely, but something about "Bully Ray vs. Magnus" just doesn't sound right for their biggest PPV of the year. AJ Styles getting the title shot was just too predictable, and AJ's been kind of flip-flop as a character recently. If they went with Austin Aries, they'd remind people that he exists, that's he's a great worker and promo (if undersized), but has got that little bit of oomph that makes him more intriguing in the main event scene than Chris Sabin, for instance.

But now that AJ Styles is in the match, I'm kind of hoping that Magnus costs him the match. I know it's their WrestleMania and all that shit, but I think TNA needs some feuds to try and draw people in. I think Magnus getting a bit pissed off at AJ beating him in the BFG Series and thus costing him his World Title opportunity would make a simple yet compelling story moving forward, while they work out whether or not Styles is leaving or staying.

Ray could gloat about his success and then move into a program with some other babyface. A pissed-off Joe could work; Aries has already been mentioned; maybe they could re-hire Ken Anderson and give him another run? I'm spitballing here.
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Random thought:

Given that he's been absent lately, I really wouldn't mind it if Wade Barrett returned as a babyface against this whole Triple H regime thing. It would seem an odd thing for his character to do, but his current heel brawler thing isn't really catching fire right now.

During a three-on-one beat-down of Daniel Bryan one week, Barrett can just make a random appearance and fight off The Shield. Everyone is like "Um...wtf?" Barrett just cockily looks at Bryan, smirks and heads off. No one has any clue why Barrett, who is certainly not Bryan's friend, would help out D-Bry.

Barrett's reasoning is that he's watched a few Superstars stand up and take Bryan's side, but so far the fight is uneven -- and there's nothing Wade Barrett likes more than an uneven fight. He calls it a "challenge," and even if he loses, he's going to look good going down in glory.

I dunno. I think it would be slightly more interesting than the current heel lackey Barrett.
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Watching RAW -- when Goldust and Cody Rhodes attacked The Shield -- I kind of thought it would have been cool if Goldust had his face done differently. Maybe if he went more black with gold instead of gold being the more featured color. Would have made Goldust seem "darker" and more pissed off.
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Or, with JBL suddenly being promoted to NXT General Manager, Wade Barrett is temporarily given the slot of RAW and SmackDown color analyst, to spread the Triple H propaganda while JBL conducts his business duties. Barrett as a blatantly heel commentator could be hilarious.

I can just imagine Barrett making up stories about Kofi Kingston drowning kittens in the locker-room, or spreading rumors that The Usos are more than just brothers.
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I'd have preferred no makeup at all to be honest. Since he's meant to be "unemployed", it'd be more realistic as a sneak attack for him to be himself. Doesn't matter either way to be honest, though.
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I'd have preferred no makeup at all to be honest. Since he's meant to be "unemployed", it'd be more realistic as a sneak attack for him to be himself. Doesn't matter either way to be honest, though.
Thought about that, but at this stage, I think that it's to psyche himself up and doubles almost as war paint.
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HA! I can't believe this actually happened.
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Id like to see the two constantly stalking the Shield, with a payoff of Goldust turning on Cody. Goldust could cut a promo on Dusty and Cody with the motivation of "I've always been the black sheep of the family. When have you (dusty cody) ever fought to save my job? Goldust aligns with HHH and the Shield. He could beat up Dusty to get heat and you'd have a white hot face Cody seeking revenge on Goldust, but having to overcome the Shield as well. Could go with "HHH gave me my shot back, but where were you Cody and Dusty when I was down and out. It's always about Cody. Dusty had the chance with Steph to bring me back and didn't."
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That's how I'd like to see the storyline going. If Triple H wants to make Cody's life hell, it'd make sense that he'd try to rip Cody's family apart. Steph's already tried to do that to Dusty. Goldust, a fallen Superstar of the past who has always dreamed of getting another shot at glory, would be the perfect candidate to consider turning his back on the family that squeezed him into the freak he is today.
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Could you imagine the boos ringing out through the arena if they do Goldust & Cody vs. The Shield at Battleground, and Cody goes to tag Goldust, but his older brother hops off the apron and just walks to the back, leaving Cody to take all The Shield's finishers?
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You could have Dusty come out from the back yelling at Goldust "what are you doing". Goldust punches Dusty and out come Steph at the top of the ramp. They stare at each other and they shake hands. Goldust comes out Monday and cuts his promo and go from there.
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I was hoping to find the time Chyna got choked out by Marlena's purse strap while Goldust, sans makeup, attacked Triple H. No dice.
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