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Old 08-27-2007, 04:40 PM   #201
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Wow, after watching the Sobral-Heath fight, yeh, Sobral needs to be suspended and/or terminated from his contract. What a piece of shit.
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:24 PM   #202
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Wow, pretty solid ppv imo. Main Event was immense, I had a bet on Couture through bodogfight and Rectal was right about the spread. I thought he was a solid underdog to bet on. It was close though, barely over 1 to 1 for Gonzaga.

I also had Grove picked to beat Cote, but I didnt care that Grove lost. Joe Stevenson had a good fight, and Huerta beat up another tiny 155'er. They need to put him up against some more serious competition. The low night for me was GSP and Koscheck. That fight should of been fireworks.

I think its awesome that Guida won the decision against Aurelio. Aurelio is a solid fighter. That win looks great on a record.
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:16 PM   #204
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Couture would have beaten Fedor on that night in my opinion.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:52 AM   #205
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given enough time to train randy can come up with a plan to beat anyone.
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I dont think Randy can beat Fedor. I love Randy so much right now. He's writing a story in this sport that has potential to be one of the greatest ever told ( if he meets and beats Fedor or perhaps Cro Crop ). But Fedor is no Tim Sylvia or Gonzaga and Fedor would murder Chuck Liddell. Randy hasnt seen anything like Fedor.

Then again. He who doubt Randy, is a fool so...
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Old 08-28-2007, 12:31 PM   #207
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Been reading that Couture won with a broken arm. That's insane if it's true.

Anybody got a link to the whole fight? Anytime I youtube a ufc fight I can never find it.
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:57 PM   #208
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I dont think Randy can beat Fedor. I love Randy so much right now. He's writing a story in this sport that has potential to be one of the greatest ever told ( if he meets and beats Fedor or perhaps Cro Crop ). But Fedor is no Tim Sylvia or Gonzaga and Fedor would murder Chuck Liddell. Randy hasnt seen anything like Fedor.

Then again. He who doubt Randy, is a fool so...
Fedor has to lose. Nobody is unbeatable. Fujita rocked him and he isn't the best striker he has fought. And on the ground, anyone can be beat.

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Been reading that Couture won with a broken arm. That's insane if it's true.

Anybody got a link to the whole fight? Anytime I youtube a ufc fight I can never find it.
When he blocked the last high kick, it broke his arm. And he still threw bombs with it! LEGEND! See what I can do about a link.
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UFC has a conference call this Thursday with various fighters including MATT HAMILL.
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You know what was weird about that high kick. I was at a bar and the sounds was low (which is odd as it's usually really loud) so I could hardly hear a thing. But I swear I heard a loud "wack" with that kick. I thought he caught him in the face and was amazed Couture stayed on his feet. Then I find out he broke his arm.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:46 PM   #212
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Good thing it wasn't his jaw.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:59 PM   #214
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I dont think Randy can beat Fedor. I love Randy so much right now. He's writing a story in this sport that has potential to be one of the greatest ever told ( if he meets and beats Fedor or perhaps Cro Crop ). But Fedor is no Tim Sylvia or Gonzaga and Fedor would murder Chuck Liddell. Randy hasnt seen anything like Fedor.

Then again. He who doubt Randy, is a fool so...
I think Fedor will go down at Randy's hands. I would bet on it.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:09 PM   #215
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. And on the ground, anyone can be beat.


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except fedor lol...

I dont mean to be nut hugging but the guy is incredible on the ground. If seen like 80% of his fights and he can do things that are just insane. He out grappled Nogiera who is a jujitsu master by the way. if someone is on top of him from the north south or side control he simply sits up and reverses them like the randleman fight... which he was suplexed on his head from about id say 6-7 feet up.




Fedor will lose one of his first 3 fights tho! but it wont come from someone beating him but rather him getting a cut that is too bad for the doctors to let continue or him breaking a hand and the ref noticing it.
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I doubt it. Refs will protect him now.
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well maybe with the hand but theres nothing that can be done about a cut and fedor bleeds easier than almost anyone in mma
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I dont think Fedor's first lost will come via the ground but from standing up. I dont care what anyone says, his boxing is very unorthadox and he throws a lot of looping wide hooks from his hips. Granted, you are supposed to throw from your hip, but he leaves himself way to open to punches down the pipe.

I expect Fedor's loss to come from either a head kick or a mean punch that will set him on his ass. His Sambo is classy, even to go as far as to outclass the best BJJ heavyweight in the world.

But to say that Fedor would murder Chuck is fucking dumb. Fedor fights a lot like Randy, wherein he uses his standup to bring opponents to the ground. Guys like Mirko and Chuck give Fedor his best matches because they refuse to go down on the ground and give him and advantage.

Now do I think Randy will beat Fedor? If Randy neutralizes Fedor like he did Gonzaga, its a great possibilty. You dont see much work out of Fedor in the clinch because he always works for a takedown. If Randy held him up against the fence with underhooks and worked his dirty boxing effectively, then he could very well wear Fedor down and eventually mount him and pound him out. I am sorry, regardless what anyone says, Fedor's conditioning is waning, and probably more so since he doesnt want to fight anyone his caliber and keeps hand picking his opponents. 5, 5 minute rounds are tough when you have someone like Randy on you that knows how to control the clock and uses his superior wrestling to wear opponents down.

Everyone at Xtreme Couture constantly talks about how hard it is to keep up with Randy, and how easily he can wear you down once he gets you to his level.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:18 PM   #219
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Also, people who are blaming the broken nose for being the only reason why Randy won is starting to fucking get to me real bad. I keep reading it on a lot of MMA sites.

When you suffer an injury midfight, you can either quit or go on. Becoming injured in a fight, accidental or no, should not be something that someone can fall back on. Its just as easy to say that Gonzaga could have not gotten the broken nose by stoping the takedown that Randy used to break his nose in the first place. Randy finished his fight with a broken arm, and it still seems to not reach people, because they are so caught up on this broken nose thing

Fact is, if Gonzaga would of stopped the takedown, the nose would of never broke. IE Gonzaga lost the fight all by himself. This rant has nothing to do with anything anyone has said on the site, but I had to get it off my chest. I fucking hate the sherdog forums.
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The 16 contestants for the next Ultimate Fighter:

Matt Arroyo
Daniel Barrera
Blake Bowman
Mac Danzig
Paul Georgieff
Richie Hightower
John Kolsci
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Dorian Price
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Also, people who are blaming the broken nose for being the only reason why Randy won is starting to fucking get to me real bad. I keep reading it on a lot of MMA sites.

When you suffer an injury midfight, you can either quit or go on. Becoming injured in a fight, accidental or no, should not be something that someone can fall back on. Its just as easy to say that Gonzaga could have not gotten the broken nose by stoping the takedown that Randy used to break his nose in the first place. Randy finished his fight with a broken arm, and it still seems to not reach people, because they are so caught up on this broken nose thing

Fact is, if Gonzaga would of stopped the takedown, the nose would of never broke. IE Gonzaga lost the fight all by himself. This rant has nothing to do with anything anyone has said on the site, but I had to get it off my chest. I fucking hate the sherdog forums.
Sherdog are cunts. FACT. Gonzaga's broken nose may very well be the biggest reason (certainly not only reason) Randy won but the fact is Randy caused that injury by pushing his style of fighting. Endurance wise, Randy would have won if Gonzaga didn't KO him by the 3rd.
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I dont think Fedor's first lost will come via the ground but from standing up. I dont care what anyone says, his boxing is very unorthadox and he throws a lot of looping wide hooks from his hips. Granted, you are supposed to throw from your hip, but he leaves himself way to open to punches down the pipe.

I expect Fedor's loss to come from either a head kick or a mean punch that will set him on his ass. His Sambo is classy, even to go as far as to outclass the best BJJ heavyweight in the world.

But to say that Fedor would murder Chuck is fucking dumb. Fedor fights a lot like Randy, wherein he uses his standup to bring opponents to the ground. Guys like Mirko and Chuck give Fedor his best matches because they refuse to go down on the ground and give him and advantage.

Now do I think Randy will beat Fedor? If Randy neutralizes Fedor like he did Gonzaga, its a great possibilty. You dont see much work out of Fedor in the clinch because he always works for a takedown. If Randy held him up against the fence with underhooks and worked his dirty boxing effectively, then he could very well wear Fedor down and eventually mount him and pound him out. I am sorry, regardless what anyone says, Fedor's conditioning is waning, and probably more so since he doesnt want to fight anyone his caliber and keeps hand picking his opponents. 5, 5 minute rounds are tough when you have someone like Randy on you that knows how to control the clock and uses his superior wrestling to wear opponents down.

Everyone at Xtreme Couture constantly talks about how hard it is to keep up with Randy, and how easily he can wear you down once he gets you to his level.
Matt Linland might be one of the top 10-15 MMA fighters in the world. I dont think he was hand picked, but he gave up some height and weight.
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Fedor's boxing is fine. Its unorthodox but thats how pretty much all the greats are before everyone starts to copy their style most often then not.

I really dont think chuck would be able to touch fedore because fedor has too good of movement to be caught with chucks looping right and left hooks. Which are where most of chucks knock outs come from.

Fedor can be taken down, its happened b4. But the biggest problem is that guys know how much he bleeds. Guys in PRIDE always had to go for the mount to get off real good punches from the ground, but fedor was so good on the ground, that he could reverse them when they went to shift position. However guys in the UFC can just stay in the half gaurd or side position and drop hard elbows onto fedor and elbows are the easiest way to cut sombody. If someone gets him down and becomes real intense in dropping elbows, then fedor will be in real trouble.
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I dont think Fedor's first lost will come via the ground but from standing up. I dont care what anyone says, his boxing is very unorthadox and he throws a lot of looping wide hooks from his hips. Granted, you are supposed to throw from your hip, but he leaves himself way to open to punches down the pipe.

I expect Fedor's loss to come from either a head kick or a mean punch that will set him on his ass. His Sambo is classy, even to go as far as to outclass the best BJJ heavyweight in the world.

But to say that Fedor would murder Chuck is fucking dumb. Fedor fights a lot like Randy, wherein he uses his standup to bring opponents to the ground. Guys like Mirko and Chuck give Fedor his best matches because they refuse to go down on the ground and give him and advantage.

Now do I think Randy will beat Fedor? If Randy neutralizes Fedor like he did Gonzaga, its a great possibilty. You dont see much work out of Fedor in the clinch because he always works for a takedown. If Randy held him up against the fence with underhooks and worked his dirty boxing effectively, then he could very well wear Fedor down and eventually mount him and pound him out. I am sorry, regardless what anyone says, Fedor's conditioning is waning, and probably more so since he doesnt want to fight anyone his caliber and keeps hand picking his opponents. 5, 5 minute rounds are tough when you have someone like Randy on you that knows how to control the clock and uses his superior wrestling to wear opponents down.

Everyone at Xtreme Couture constantly talks about how hard it is to keep up with Randy, and how easily he can wear you down once he gets you to his level.
fedor is russian dude. that stigma about how they train isnt from the movies, its real. They are always in great shape. They might not always be the best fighters but theyre always in great shape.
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Glad they canned this douchebag.

Sounds like he also may be facing a ban from the Nevada State Athletic Commission. That will keep him out of KOTC which also operates in Nevada. His career may be finished, and it probably should be.

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Old 08-31-2007, 04:26 PM   #227
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Good job UFC. They're lucky that incident got no media attention. But you know if something were to happen in the future. Some kind of in ring incident, people would look back and dig this one up and point to it and use it as an example. So Sobral had to go. You cant run the risk of not being able to tell people that you laid the hammer on this guy if something major happens years later.
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Yeah Babalu had to go. No excuse is justifiable enough for what he did.
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BJ Penn held a choke on Pulver longer than needed. He didnt' get fired.
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BJ Penn held a choke on Pulver longer than needed. He didnt' get fired.
Yeh, but he did break it after the ref intervened. AND, he didn't hold it long enough to force Pulver to pass out, and then prance around the ring celebrating what a dick he is. Which is exactly what Sobral did.
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I agree. They always say fight until the ref says stop so if he misses the tap out and Penn lets go, he looks like a stupid prick especially if he gets beat after it.
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I have a spare ticket for the UFC show this week. Possibly 2 tickets if someone gets off their Californian ass and gets me a press pass for the show. Already posted this elsewhere so pm quick if you want it.
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UFC signed Fedor it will be announced on sat at the show.
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Where you reading this? I see it nowhere. Not even on MMAweekly. If its true and they dont give him Couture first, I could totally see them giving Fedor, Arlovski
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i got it from an insider that called CroCop being signed a week before it hit the news so i trust that its pritty reliable and the fact that Fedor just signed a deal with the affliction brand Extreme Couture which Im sure you can find in mma weekly

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I dont like my name. Never have.

Yah i read that he'll be at UFC 75 with Randy Couture, but his agents say he's not signed, but we've seen that song and dance before with Liddel/vs Silva where Silva wasnt signed but they announced the match. I'm curious if Dana is gunna blow his load and announce the match before the ink hits the paper again.
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Randy Couture vs Fedor is like a Superbowl for me. Seriously. I will cancel everything i have going for that day if it happens.
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UFC signed Fedor it will be announced on sat at the show.
I was with a guy at the weigh ins today who had a press pass and is extremely reliable who asked Dana White if Fedor was signed and he said no.

Then about 2 hours later, we could have sworn we saw Fedor about 20 miles from the building in central London. I'm not saying it was him but he definately looked like him and he had people with him and I'm definately not saying Dana is lying because he is normally very truthfull on these things.
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