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Old 07-21-2011, 11:51 PM   #18041
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I say drop the PG rating, stop rehashing storylines, and bring back the cruiserweight, women's (legit, not the bullshit they have), and tag team divisions that would breathe new life in WWE.
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:25 AM   #18042
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I wonder if this whole CM Punk "thing" was Triple H's idea...after so many years of Vince NOT "nailing it" in terms of producing something BIG, I just can't accept he all of a sudden decided to push CM Punk to the moon like they did, and also, allow Punk to bring up all those subjects no one EVER dares touch, all that freedom of speech that not even Austin had...
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:00 AM   #18043
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I say drop the PG rating, stop rehashing storylines, and bring back the cruiserweight, women's (legit, not the bullshit they have), and tag team divisions that would breathe new life in WWE.
Bringing back the cruiserweight division is an awesome idea. That would give them better matches for TV if given enough time. It worked for WCW during the MNW's, and I'm sure alot of fans would get behind it. I definately don't think giving the belt to Hornswaggle and trashing that division did WWE any favors. Especially after building that division up for 8-9 years with talented guys. It wouldn't single handlely make the ratings what they were before, but having buzz about good matches certainly couldn't hurt....
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:09 AM   #18044
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:10 AM   #18045
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You guys are ridiculous with this PG stuff if you don't understand how that benefits WWE financially. WWE seems to be doing everything exactly right at the moment, from the amazing CM Punk storyline which has so many possibilities including a possible match with Triple H, an ROH angle, Vinc McMahon's on screen retirement, the introduction of Triple H as the boss, possibly a new character in John Laranitus.

On top of that Daniel Bryan just won the MITB Contract and said he would cash it in at Wrestlemania next year which leads me to believe we may end up with Punk vs Bryan at WM 28.

R-Truth, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Dolph Ziggler, Alex Riley, and Christian who seem to be on fire every time they step out.

Sure it's not perfect, but when has any wrestling program pleased you in every possible way. WWE appeals to a large audience not just 18 year old fat tits, aka you.

WWE is doing everything right at the moment. It's possible the CM Punk program could explode like the NWO did for WCW, it's possible it may not, either way WWE is on the way to making that moment happen for all of us again, just give it some time.
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You guys are ridiculous with this PG stuff if you don't understand how that benefits WWE financially. WWE seems to be doing everything exactly right at the moment, from the amazing CM Punk storyline which has so many possibilities including a possible match with Triple H, an ROH angle, Vinc McMahon's on screen retirement, the introduction of Triple H as the boss, possibly a new character in John Laranitus.

On top of that Daniel Bryan just won the MITB Contract and said he would cash it in at Wrestlemania next year which leads me to believe we may end up with Punk vs Bryan at WM 28.

R-Truth, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Dolph Ziggler, Alex Riley, and Christian who seem to be on fire every time they step out.

Sure it's not perfect, but when has any wrestling program pleased you in every possible way. WWE appeals to a large audience not just 18 year old fat tits, aka you.

WWE is doing everything right at the moment. It's possible the CM Punk program could explode like the NWO did for WCW, it's possible it may not, either way WWE is on the way to making that moment happen for all of us again, just give it some time.
Being PG definately benefits WWE financally, no doubt about it. From more attractive sponsors to more merchandise being sold to kids. Financally, it makes perfect sense.

But, to ignore WWE being more successful during the PG less era is a huge mistake. The fans were already leaving before due to a stale product. Now, with more limitations, it directly affects how creative WWE can be. Not a good thing for the ratings or the fans...
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:31 AM   #18047
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:14 AM   #18048
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PG PART OF RATINGS PROBLEM

u cant d-ny it

it true n not ridiculas

U ridiculas.

Also, no one is claiming it's the one switch you hit to "fix" the WWE.

Stop trying to act like business executives. Not PG = more ratings, plain.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:16 AM   #18049
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On top of that Daniel Bryan just won the MITB Contract and said he would cash it in at Wrestlemania next year which leads me to believe we may end up with Punk vs Bryan at WM 28.
What

does that have to do with PG = ratings?

hello.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:20 AM   #18050
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:59 AM   #18051
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:17 AM   #18052
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:09 AM   #18053
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Dropping the PG label is only one part of the solution. They have to get back to what made them successful. Developing new exciting storylines while starting to come up with new characters/wrestlers. I'd be lying if I said I thought WWE being PG was the only problem they have. Is it limiting their material? Absolutely, but they have creative issues that are deeper than the PG limitation.

While I do think being PG is a huge reason why WWE is stale, not caring about the fans opinion is as much to blame for ratings. So, to claim simply dropping the PG label will solve everything is wrong. The only way WWE will see improvement is with MAJOR changes. Not being PG is only one part of the equation IMO...
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:43 AM   #18054
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:01 AM   #18055
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:17 AM   #18056
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:18 AM   #18057
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:36 AM   #18058
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:49 AM   #18059
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The Greatest High Flyers or whatever it's called, completely forgot to post about it
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:45 AM   #18060
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:46 AM   #18061
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:23 AM   #18063
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:38 AM   #18064
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[citation needed]
Which will be difficult, since it's nothing more than a conspiracy theory that reached memetic mutation status.

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Vince: "I got it! Based on the overwhelming response of three of our viewers dropping the PG rating must be the answer to all our problems!"

John Laurinaitis: "We can't drop the PG rating. It's in our sponsor contract."

Vince: "What the hell? Who came up with that?"

John Laurinaitis: "You did, sir."
XD. The only thing you left out is Vince firing someone over it.

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Dropping the PG label is only one part of the solution. They have to get back to what made them successful. Developing new exciting storylines while starting to come up with new characters/wrestlers. I'd be lying if I said I thought WWE being PG was the only problem they have. Is it limiting their material? Absolutely, but they have creative issues that are deeper than the PG limitation.
The problem being that you can remove "Drop PG" from your theory of what will fix WWE and have the same result.

Is it limiting material? Absolutely, but only in the sense that barring hardcore porn in prime time is "limiting" network TV. Somehow, the networks seem to be able to draw good ratings anyway, though.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:46 AM   #18065
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:51 AM   #18066
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:41 PM   #18067
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:42 PM   #18070
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:53 PM   #18071
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If Punk could say the word "bitch" ratings would jump into the 5's and that's a fact!
And if he were champion, ratings would jump to the high 6's...
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:21 PM   #18072
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Yeah, it's pointless to target the PG audience at an adult timeslot.
TiVo/DVRs?

I don't get how being PG is limiting the product, because you cant swear/bleed? If thats the issue why isn't CZW overtaking Raw in the ratings? The Punk angle and the Nexus angle generated a buzz while remaining PG. Just a few months ago the general consensus was that Raw was actually entertaining most weeks. If you produce a compelling entertaining show then being PG shouldnt matter.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:01 PM   #18073
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:09 PM   #18074
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. So apparently AJ Styles named all of his sons with names beginning with "A" so they would have the AJ initials. In addition, he actually named one of them Ajay.

Me finding this out comes from me seeing a picture of Styles in which he seems to have got a ridiculous tattoo of "AJ" and the birth dates of his kids on his side.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:13 PM   #18075
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The problem being that you can remove "Drop PG" from your theory of what will fix WWE and have the same result.

Is it limiting material? Absolutely, but only in the sense that barring hardcore porn in prime time is "limiting" network TV. Somehow, the networks seem to be able to draw good ratings anyway, though.
Actually, I have said over and over that dropping the PG label isn't the entire solution. It's a huge part of why WWE is stale now, but not the entire cause. WWE lacking creativity or unique characters is as much to blame as them being PG. Blaming the PG rating for the whole show being bad would be senseless. My point was if MAJOR changes aren't made, from a creative standpoint, the ratings will continue to suffer.

And when I said limiting, it not only means the "hardcore porn". It also refers to wrestlers not being able to do certain things. Setting limitations for what can or can't be done or said is a receipe for disaster. You can tell half truths or mislead some ppl here, but the ratings tend to agree with my analysis. Their ratings are almost twice as low as they were during the Attitude era. To ignore that connection would be blind ignorance...
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:36 PM   #18077
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TV PG isn't their problem. Shitty writing is their problem. You can have TV PG and have it be entertaining. This Punk angle? PG
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Why does anyone think there is a problem? The ratings have been the same for years now.

Dropping the PG label = Just dumb.

MMA = MMA does not have weekly television shows people actually watch. They have pay per view events, but these do not effect WWE.

Shitty Writing = Nexus, CM Punk, and Cena/Rock in the past 365 days (With 2 of them still going on. To a lesser extent you have R-Truth sky rocketing and Daniel Bryan claiming he will turn in his MITB at WM.
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Apparently Funaki does not sign all of Cena's promotional things after all.
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