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Old 01-18-2017, 02:18 PM   #81
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Oh wait, hold on, I got my wires crossed on Sherry and Miss Elizabeth. I meant to say Miss Elizabeth. My bad. Although since I got her name wrong I withdraw my statement on her since it would be hard to argue on that now.

My Bella point still stands though.
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:25 PM   #82
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One could argue Stacey Keibler was more popular since she was dating Clooney and got a lot of fame from that.
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:41 PM   #83
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But there is no way more people know chyna than Elizabeth
There absolutely is. If you went out and asked a hundred random people who Chyna is and a hundred random people who Elizabeth is, more people would know Chyna by far.
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:42 PM   #84
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The average person does not know who Sherri Martel is. Heck, there's probably a decent amount of people who watch Raw every week that don't know who she is.
Says more about the fans than Sherri. She was an iconic manageress with Macho, Ted, Shawn.

Also a very good woman's wrestler back in the day and woman's champion.
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:44 PM   #85
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There absolutely is. If you went out and asked a hundred random people who Chyna is and a hundred random people who Elizabeth is, more people would know Chyna by far.
Absolutely disagree unless you only asked 20 somethings
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Across the board. Random people. Any age range. If you asked a hundred people who they were like 90-95 would know who Chyna is. Elizabeth might get like... 20. It would not be close.
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Across the board. Random people. Any age range. If you asked a hundred people who they were like 90-95 would know who Chyna is. Elizabeth might get like... 20. It would not be close.
No logical reason that would be the case. Elizabeth was a big deal at the height of Hulkamania.
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I can only imagine you're just talking about wrestling fans specifically? In which case, it's much closer obviously but Chyna would still be known by more.
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Nah wrestling was huge in pop culture during that time.
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Across the board. Random people. Any age range. If you asked a hundred people who they were like 90-95 would know who Chyna is. Elizabeth might get like... 20. It would not be close.
I think it would be closer than that. People know Randy Savage and thus they will know Ms. Elizabeth.

Also people might be confused and think you mean the country China. Unless you did some sort of photos side by side like the Pepsi Challenge.
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Old 01-18-2017, 03:00 PM   #91
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Miss Elizabeth was active in WCW until 1999
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Across the board. Random people. Any age range. If you asked a hundred people who they were like 90-95 would know who Chyna is. Elizabeth might get like... 20. It would not be close.
"I base this on feelings, not facts"
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Sure it was. Elizabeth, while she was part of the main event scene, did not get NEARLY the mainstream attention Chyna got though. Wrestling was pretty huge in pop culture during Chyna's time AND she actually went on to do other things that got her known outside of wrestling. In the internet age where shit gets spread like a wildfire, no less. Chyna's gotta be at least 10 times more famous than Elizabeth and I really don't think that's an exaggeration.
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What facts do you want? lol
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I think you guys are reeeeeeeealy over-estimating how much common people give a shit about wrestling chicks enough to know them from a popular wrestling storyline even at the height of its popularity. If you don't know/care about wrestling, you don't know/care who Miss Elisabeth is. If you don't know/care about wrestling, you still are very likely to know who Chyna is.
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Chyna was midcard

Austin and the Rock weren't fighting over Chyna.
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Again, that means nothing to anyone but wrestling fans.
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You couldn't even remember her name at first, Vic. lol
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Those same people probably don't know Chyna either.
Highly unlikely
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Again, that means nothing to anyone but wrestling fans.
Austin, Rock, McMahon were pop culture; not the entire WWE card.
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Highly unlikely
You find an 8 year old Reigns fan and ask him about Chyna.
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Austin, Rock, McMahon were pop culture; not the entire WWE card.
If Chyna did nothing but wrestle, you might have a point (Though the "entire card" wasn't pop culture in the 80's either, so it's kinda moot.) She didn't. She went on to do other things and get a lot of mainstream attention. Liz did not. Liz is known to people who know wrestling. Chyna is known to people regardless.
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Highly unlikely
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You find an 8 year old Reigns fan and ask him about Chyna.
Wasn't Miss Elizabeth a character in WWE2K13? If they have that game they probably know who she is.


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I am pretty sure at this point more people know who Chyna is. She had her porn, shes been on Howard Stern, she was much more relevant in pop culture than Miss Elizabeth recently.
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I am pretty sure at this point more people know who Chyna is. She had her porn, shes been on Howard Stern, she was much more relevant in pop culture than Miss Elizabeth recently.
If you polled a truely unbiased poll you would get poeple who havent had contact with pop culture in 30 years.
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You'd have more people who HAVE had contact with pop culture in the past 30 years but haven't had contact with pro wrestling ever. And they wouldn't know Liz.
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We all need to take to the streets this weekend to ask 100 people if they know who Liz/Chyna are.
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Those same people probably don't know Chyna either.
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Thats a good point. Total Divas has a following outside of wrestling that is oddly substantial.
My uncle was in jail for about 3months last year and said that the inmates watched Total Divas every week but never watched Raw or Smackdown.
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lol I love how this has transitioned from Angle being announced into the Hall of Fame to Chyna vs Elizabeth
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My uncle was in jail for about 3months last year and said that the inmates watched Total Divas every week but never watched Raw or Smackdown.
That makes total sense
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lol I love how this has transitioned from Angle being announced into the Hall of Fame to Chyna vs Elizabeth
Vintage TPWW
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The average person does not know who Sherri Martel is. Heck, there's probably a decent amount of people who watch Raw every week that don't know who she is.
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There's no way more people know who Sherri is than Chyna...
I have no idea who Sherri is.
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If you polled a truely unbiased poll you would get poeple who havent had contact with pop culture in 30 years.
If they haven't had contact with pop culture in 30 years, I doubt they would've been that in contact with pop culture 30 years ago. Even if they did, Miss Elizabeth wasn't exactly Vanna White.
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If they haven't had contact with pop culture in 30 years, I doubt they would've been that in contact with pop culture 30 years ago. Even if they did, Miss Elizabeth wasn't exactly Vanna White.
What? No. The average person grows less in less involved with pop culture ss they age. Thats just how it works.
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Kurt Angle is currently pushing for the WWE to not just ignore his TNA career like they did with others.

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Came from a recent interview he had with Sports Illustrated.
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Unless you have something to contribute as to chynas lasting legacy please see your way out
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Sorry.

In terms of debate, the general public or mainstream is going to know Chyna a lot more than Miss Elizabeth or Sherri and probably even combined. Wouldn't be surprised if most people only remember Miss Elizabeth if Macho Man's name gets invoked or as just being that person who was around Macho Man most of the time.
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Seriously, who the hell is Sherri?
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If I been watching wrestling since the beginning of the NWO and have no idea who Sherri is I doubt anyone outside the wrestling culture knows.
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