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Old 06-13-2010, 10:30 PM   #81
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The whole blue alien thing was interesting. I preferred them to do something with that instead of this. I didn't like how it's almost suddenly just happens that we find out the Lucian alliance has Telford as a spy and they are coming to take over the ship although I like what it has done for the Telford character. You go from hating his guts to cheering for him.

Plus Carter's first appearance on SGU was insignificant. Why have her just for that small part that could have went to anyone else. At least Jackson's appearance in Rush's dream thing was good.

Actually they should have done the Lucian Alliance stuff first then the blue aliens trying to take over for the season finale.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:52 AM   #82
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They might even build up to five minutes of action next season.
WHOA! Lets not get crazy now.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:54 AM   #83
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Maybe they will keep that Lucian alliance chick, and kill off Ming Na's character, next season. The characterisation in the series is still bland.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:05 AM   #84
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:37 PM   #85
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Maybe they will keep that Lucian alliance chick, and kill off Ming Na's character, next season. The characterisation in the series is still bland.
Yeah, be nice if they ramped that up.

Or ramped something up.
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:15 PM   #86
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Been trying to figure it out for an hour and I finally got it. One of the members of the Lucian Alliance is the main villain from Heroes season 4.

SGU gives me a feeling like its a CW show.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:41 PM   #87
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The music still bothers me, but the first epi was good.
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Old 12-07-2010, 06:34 AM   #88
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So last week we came to the end of the first half of the second season, and I was wondering how people have found this second season so far?
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:06 AM   #89
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Even though I'm not really watching it. I have to say that's due to it being to "meh" for my liking. I can sit down with my Fiancée and watch the first 5 minutes, go off do something, come back about the halfway point, get a simple over view, go back to whatever, and come back to watch like the last 10 minutes and I'm good to go.

My Fiancée's feeling the same way about the show. He's liking the story and everything with the characters, but he says it's been a bit slow moving.

One thing that bugs me is I think Eli has got fatter over the season. idk maybe it's just me that thinks that. Oh and I really hate the make-up artist. Everything make-up wise looks kind of Power Ranger level done.
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:01 PM   #91
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I like the second season a little better so far.
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The whole thing with Chloe better be going somewhere amazing and not be a let down, like Greer just killing her.
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It's a little weird watching the show knowing it has been canceled while there are new episodes coming out still. The most recent one is really interesting. I wish another season was still possible.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:44 PM   #94
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I hope the staff at SyFy get flesh-eating STD's. It really picked up this second season.
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I would rather have Atlantis over SGU. Other than Sergeant Greer and Colonel Young, the characters on SGU annoy me more than they intrigue me. It sucks that the Stargate franchise ends like this.

Then again, who knows what time will bring. Maybe they'll bring it back at some point in the future. Most t.v. shows don't run for 14 years in some form or another.
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Only one episode left, and it's going to end with a cliffhanger with no conclusion due to the dvd movie being canceled 2 weeks ago...
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Has a show ever been brought back because of the fans? Maybe Futurama and Family Guy but I would like to know about live action series.
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Didn't Enterprise return for a fourth season due to fans calling for it to have one last season, or something?
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Enterprise was only at risk of cancellation, it wasn't actually canceled until after the fourth season.
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How does this show stack up with Atlantis and SG-1 in your opinions?

It had a much bigger budget than Atlantis and I'm assuming SG-1 as well but did much less with it visually in my opinion. I believe financial constraints at MGM are one of the big reasons for the show's cancellation.
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It started off kinda iffy, but by the end of the first season it was starting to get good, and now coming to the end of the second season I quite enjoy it. There still needs to be some more interesting character development (which it won't get now). But I found it vastly improved over time.
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Yeah. Overall, SGU was the worst of the franchise. It got good towards the last few episodes, but for the most part it was stale. Like I've said before, I think the fan base is still there, but the finances aren't.

I don't think they did a good job of fleshing out the characters or making them compelling though. Other than Greer and Young, everyone else's backstory was dry. I couldn't bring myself to care about the lesbian administrator, fat smart video game nerd or brilliant scientist who seemed to wallow in his own misery and make everyone else around him miserable as well.

I think the show also would have benefitted from a primary antagonist too. SG1 had the Goa'Ulds, Replicators and Ori. Atlantis had the Wraith. SGU had... some random drones, blue aliens for a couple of episodes and the Lucian Alliance for a bit. It seemed like every episode was a filler episode revolving around needing to get supplies before they all die or something Rush has done or not told anyone he's done that gets them all in trouble.
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Rush was the best character out of all of them. I think they dropped the ball with him though.
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Not the kind of "cliffhanger" I thought it was going to be, but still annoying. Guess I'd be less frustrated at "SyFy" had the SGU movie not been cancelled. But way to go SyFy, renew Sanctuary for another season even tho it only got 700,000 viewers Monday compared to SGU's 1.134 million viewers.
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I like Sanctuary though but I guess it's supposed to be really cheap to produce. It's kind of annoying though that every time they are out in the city it's some alley or industrial area that looks very similar to the last place.
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I hope MGM find somebody else to broadcast SG:Universe. It can't just end like that. I have got quite into this second season.
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From the Editor: With the end of Stargate Universe on Syfy this week, fans of the show are understandably upset. Why was the show cancelled? Did the move from Friday nights do it more harm than good? Today we welcome a guest post from Craig Engler, Senior Vice President and General Manager of Syfy Digital. Our thanks to Craig for taking the time to respond to some of the concerns coming from Stargate fans, and to explain the network’s decision-making process.


An Open Letter to Stargate Fans From Syfy

There’s been a lot written about Stargate Universe and Syfy in the weeks leading up to SGU‘s recent finale, and a lot of questions and concerns directed at Syfy about how we handled the series. I wanted to take some time to address the issues that have come up and thought GateWorld, which has been a huge supporter of the entire Stargate franchise, would be a good place to do it. So thanks to them for giving me the space here, and thanks to you for taking the time to read this.

When MGM and Syfy mutually decided to bring Stargate Atlantis to an end after five seasons, they did so knowing they’d transition to a new show in the franchise, Stargate Universe. SGU was a bold new take on Stargate that Brad Wright and Robert Cooper had had in mind for a long time, and one that we’d discussed with them off and on. It first came to us as a pitch many years ago.

Because Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis had performed so well for us in the past, we felt confident about SGU and committed to a two-season deal for it, as long as the show met certain milestones along the way. Two-season deals are rare in the TV world because they tie up a huge amount of investment (both time and money), but our great track record with MGM and Stargate made this seem like as much of a sure thing as you’ll get in the TV business. That means before any footage was shot or any actors were hired, we knew there’d be 40 episodes.

The show quickly moved forward and officially launched on October 2, 2009. The debut was watched by a good if not spectacular 2,779,000 viewers. To give that some perspective, Stargate Atlantis debuted with over 4 million viewers, so SGU was more than 25% below that. On the plus side, SGU actually grew in week 2 to just about 3 million viewers before falling into the 2.6 million range where it seemed like it was going to settle. That’s a fairly typical pattern for a new series, and at this point the show was doing okay.

In week six viewers dropped to 2.3 million, or 20% off the season high. It’s not unusual for a show to fluctuate a bit, so as long as it bounced back this wouldn’t be too much of a concern. There was indeed a bit of a recovery the next week, but that was followed by another small drop. Then viewership took a further dip to 1,961,000, or 33% down from the season high. Obviously there was concern at this point, but we were headed into the hiatus and shows often see a bump after a break (contrary to popular belief).

Coming back from hiatus the show in fact grew modestly to 2,088,000 viewers and then added more viewers the next week, hitting 2,153,000. It looked like we were regaining momentum. Unfortunately things stalled there and for the next two months SGU hovered between 2,116,000 and a low of 1,708,000 viewers, below where we could sustain it. So despite the brief post-hiatus bump, after two episodes it settled in at a lower number and we ended up averaging 1,982,000 viewers for season 1.5.

With untenably low numbers and no sign of growth on Fridays where it had now lost 1/3 of its initial audience, we decided to move SGU for its second season. We’d had tremendous success on Tuesday’s with our breakout hit Warehouse 13, so we paired SGU with Caprica and moved them to Tuesdays, hoping to introduce both shows to a new audience. As you probably know by now the downward trend continued and ultimately we weren’t able to continue either series.

We moved the final 10 episodes of SGU to Monday nights where we’d just had success with a new show called Being Human, but the ratings remained flat. SGU did finish out its run with a nice spike for the finale, which is something else you also typically see with TV shows (it’s called the “terminal spike” in ratings parlance).


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What you see above is simply Syfy and MGM trying to make a great new Stargate series, seeing some initial success, then when it began to struggle, seeing attempts to find a way to keep it going. You’ve probably read numerous rumors to the contrary. I’ll look at the most prevalent:

The erratic scheduling killed SGU:
We started the show on Fridays where we’ve had the most success and where it initially did well, and we left it there until it started struggling. When it was clear the show had fallen to unsustainable levels and would not survive on Fridays, only then did we move it to the night where our highest rated show of all time had recently aired.

The hiatus killed SGU:
As you can see from the ratings above, the biggest drop in viewers came before the hiatus, not after. In fact, SGU actually grew around 10% after the hiatus between season 1.0 and 1.5 in its first two episodes back.

If you’d left it on Friday nights, it would have done well:
When left on Friday nights SGU lost 1/3 of its audience and dropped to consistently unsustainable ratings levels. The only hope of keeping it was to move it to another night where new viewers could find it.

You canceled SGU because you hate science fiction:
If we didn’t like science fiction we simply wouldn’t have made SGU. It’s because we like science fiction that we tried it. Even though SGU was ultimately unsuccessful, we don’t regret trying it. Science fiction shows are the backbone and lifeblood of our network, and we have many in development. Later this year we’ll be debuting Alphas, the Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome pilot is being worked on as you read this, the movie Red Faction starring Stargate Universe‘s Brian Jacob Smith will air next month, 5 of our original dramas will return with new seasons or new episodes this year, and we’re working on many more behind the scenes.

You never supported SGU:
There is literally no one other than MGM who supported it more than we did. We were the only network who gave the show a try and the only ones who committed to making and airing 40 episodes before a script had been written. We invested tens of millions of dollars and thousands of hours of work over many years making and supporting the show.

You canceled SGU in order to make wrestling:
We would have happily kept making SGU regardless of anything else on our schedule if the ratings were sustainable. We don’t discontinue successful shows to make room for other shows … no network does because no network has a full roster of successful series. SGU was judged solely on its own ratings.

You don’t like Stargate:
We love Stargate. Combined we’ve made 12 seasons of 3 separate series and helped support two SG-1 films. It’s been an amazing ride and we’re incredibly proud of the cast and crew of all the shows, and thankful to all the viewers who watched.

Note: The ratings I used above are Live +7 numbers, or the total number of viewers who watched the show live and during the following 7 days via DVR. Although advertisers buy based on just the 18-49 segment of these numbers and thus the 18-49 ratings would be much smaller, I’m using L7 numbers here for convenience as they represent the total audience. The % drops and lows of the 18-49 numbers would be even more significant (i.e. worse) than what the L7s show, but not so much that it’s worth doing all the math for.

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2011/0...ans-from-syfy/

Pretty interesting read. My personal take from that is MGM/SyFy got greedy and decided to hit it out of the park with SGU instead of sticking with the consistency of Atlantis and it came back to bite em in the ass.
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They can still atleast give it a proper ending.
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Finally caught the final episode in full. I must say I didn't mind the ending. It did give some closure to the show. Definitely not the best ending, but better than I expected.
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