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Old 02-12-2017, 11:49 PM   #561
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No, he created it on his own while in FCW/NXT.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:50 PM   #562
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:51 PM   #563
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I already answered your moronic statement. Maybe it is YOU who cannot read? The characters they give people don't work. The wrestlers have to make the character themselves. Bray Wyatt was Bray Wyatt way before we saw him on WWE TV because he created the character. They gave him Husky Harris.

Please point out where you said this before.

You believe WWE does not give the wrestlers their characters? WWE does not tell the wrestlers what to say and do? You think Crews has full control over what he does? Or Boring Corbin? Do you think Bray went to HHH and said I am doing this gimmick so back off?

Fuck why am I still responding?
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:52 PM   #564
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No, he created it on his own while in FCW/NXT.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:53 PM   #565
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:56 PM   #566
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Chamber match was good but Cena having a 2 week reign is dumb. Would have been better had Styles went in as champion.
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Old 02-12-2017, 11:58 PM   #568
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He's been there for 10 months. He debuted Raw after Mania. Give him a character? He's supposed to create his own character that is an extension of himself.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:01 AM   #569
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Lol.
Dusty and Triple H gave NXTers more freedom to create characters on their own.

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Listen to the Stone Cold Podcast with Wyatt. He found the gimmick, found the music, etc. It's his creation being allowed to flourish on WWE TV.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:02 AM   #570
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Okay. So then you are a moron for thinking wrestlers create their own characters WHILE not knowing how to read.

The 10 months was talking about Corbin also being established. Which you have yet to tell me how he is fucking established besides for being in an IC fucking title match.

And an extension of himself? Do you think Bray is a fucking cult leader outside the ring? What the fuck. Omfg. I hate you so much. Literally, if you die I won't even say RIP in your thread.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:04 AM   #571
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Fuck it, I am done. I hope you die. I don't get how literally 5 different posters every week tell you that you are stupid and you still don't get it. Arg. Fuck. Die. Please.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:06 AM   #572
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There is no way you can possible think everyone creates their own character without help. No way. Everyone has guidelines and hell, even Reigns has scripted promos. But Crews should go and do his own thing. Right.
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We are losing sight of the fact that the events which unfolded this evening set us up for the best WM main event since 26.
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Remember when Cody left because he wanted out of Stardust? Do you think Nattie wanted to have a fart gimmick? Do you think Dolph wanted to have no character development for like 2 years? Do you remember when Layle said she was uncomfortable making fat jokes to Nattie?
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Remember when Cody left because he wanted out of Stardust? Do you think Nattie wanted to have a fart gimmick? Do you think Dolph wanted to have no character development for like 2 years? Do you remember when Layle said she was uncomfortable making fat jokes to Nattie?
Yeah, but, we're getting WORLD CHAMPION BRAY WYATT in the main event at WrestleMania!
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:12 AM   #576
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All of those examples are gimmicks given because the talent didn't come up with something. Great superstars challenge the writers to work together to make something great. If not you are just grabbing from the Box of Gimmicks that made Friar Ferguson and Bastion Booger!
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:14 AM   #578
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Yeah but he only has it to give Orton to 14 cause he's jealous Cena has 16. Maybe Bray will win at Mania and I'll say I was wrong.
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I would much rather Orton put Bray over at WM, but... at least we're not getting Roman Reigns, John Cena, or HHH in either main event.
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It's not going to be the last match either way. Raw's title match will be cause it'll be Brock/Goldberg unless Brock costs the title match at FastLane.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:18 AM   #581
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All of those examples are gimmicks given because the talent didn't come up with something. Great superstars challenge the writers to work together to make something great. If not you are just grabbing from the Box of Gimmicks that made Friar Ferguson and Bastion Booger!
You literally said they create their own fucking characters. Now they have to go against creative? Explain CM Punk. He challenged. Ryback challenged. Where are they now?
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It's not going to be the last match either way. Raw's title match will be cause it'll be Brock/Goldberg unless Brock costs the title match at FastLane.
That's still not Roman Reigns, John Cena, or HHH in either main event.
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Punk quit. Punk made a shitton of money in UFC even in a loss. He's done well for himself and gets to fuck AJ Lee. He's a winner.

I don't think Ryback had anything. His comments that everybody should be paid the same lead me to believe he was never going to get the business.
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You literally said they create their own fucking characters. Now they have to go against creative? Explain CM Punk. He challenged. Ryback challenged. Where are they now?
What about this guy?

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I would much rather Orton put Bray over at WM, but... at least we're not getting Roman Reigns, John Cena, or HHH in either main event.
You are 100% getting Roman/Undertaker or Goldberg/Brock in the main-event. The big main-event of WM will not be Orton vs Bray lol.
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You are 100% getting Roman or Goldberg in the main-event. The big main-event of WM will not be Orton vs Bray lol.
I'm fine with Goldberg.

I'm pretty sure we're going to see Roman vs. Undertaker.
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I'm fine with Roman/Taker but they seemed to have ignored his obvious heel turn at the Royal Rumble. He said "this is my yard now" to Taker.
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I'm fine with Roman/Taker but they seemed to have ignored his obvious heel turn at the Royal Rumble. He said "this is my yard now" to Taker.
I am not fine with Roman vs. Undertaker because we all know what the outcome will be.

And I don't want to think about that.

But, as long as it's not going to be either of the two ME's, at least we'll have something to soothe the pain after it's over.
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No, I assume the outcome would be a Tombstone. Taker beats the Big Dog and proves it is still his yard and retires.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:28 AM   #591
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Punk quit. Punk made a shitton of money in UFC even in a loss. He's done well for himself and gets to fuck AJ Lee. He's a winner.

I don't think Ryback had anything. His comments that everybody should be paid the same lead me to believe he was never going to get the business.
Both challenged creative and are no longer with WWE. I have given like 10 examples of proof that wrestlers do not get to create their own characters. Hell, promos are even scripted.
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No, I assume the outcome would be a Tombstone. Taker beats the Big Dog and proves it is still his yard and retires.
I would be truly amazed. I would take back every negative word and thought I've had about WWE booking forever at that point.
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Both challenged creative and are no longer with WWE. I have given like 10 examples of proof that wrestlers do not get to create their own characters. Hell, promos are even scripted.
Yeah... but then there's this guy:

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Both challenged creative and are no longer with WWE. I have given like 10 examples of proof that wrestlers do not get to create their own characters. Hell, promos are even scripted.
Austin challenged creative on a daily basis and became the biggest money draw in WWF history.

Scripted promos are the norm now true. Giving creative too much control is bad. Any character they give Apollo will not feel real or make it. He has to find something about himself and display that to the world. The scripted promos will still be there but he might be able to read them in a better voice if he believes the character. I just don't think he has the balls to bring something to the table. He's a solid worker but that's all. They signed him because he had a buzz about him for being a great worker and very athletic spots for a man his size.
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A. Austin was stumbled on when he won the King of the Ring when he wasn't even slated too. B. That is the attitude era. Promos were not scripted then. C. Are you reall comparing Austin to fucking Crews and Corbin?
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No, Corbin doesn't have a character problem.
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Okay, so you are comparing Crews to Austin? What the fuck are you trying to say. Fuck it. I don't even know why you post here when half the forums constantly tells you how dumb you are. I am an idiot for even trying to talk to you. Can't even think without wanting to insult how pathetic you are.
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A. Austin was stumbled on when he won the King of the Ring when he wasn't even slated too. B. That is the attitude era. Promos were not scripted then. C. Are you reall comparing Austin to fucking Crews and Corbin?
Ehh Austin was pretty over in WCW and briefly in ECW. WWE knew what they had before he won KOTR.
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Well, they should have but didn't cause Vince.
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