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Old 02-21-2013, 07:35 PM   #161
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So you'd cut the legs off of a genuinely hot faction in favour of Ryback?

Seems it just comes down to personal preference and in doing that the argument has no more substance than the guys who bitch about Punk being "jobbed out" or dropping the title to The Rock.
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How would you have booked him? Have him won the title in either match against punk? Single handedly destroy the shield in either match while making two already legitimately built superstars look weak? Or win the rumble? Explain how you would have booked him better in detail, just to back up your claims of him being booked badly.
You say all that as if I'd have put him in those exact matches to begin with...

The end of the Punk Hell in a Cell was perfect. I definitely wouldn't have had The Shield constantly make Ryback their bitch for months on end and I sure as hell wouldn't have given his first clean pinfall loss to Seth fucking Rollins. lol

And how exactly would Ryback beating The Shield at, say, Elimination Chamber, make Cena and Sheamus look weak???
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:40 PM   #163
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Duuuuude. Not even going to discuss this with you any further. Please refrain from replying to my previous posts, you are clearly delusional.
I'm sorry. You need St. Jimmy in here to post some Tyler Black matches to show us all that he's clearly the future. lol
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Ryback is a star of the future. The Shield is not.
that's a pretty short-sighted statement
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You say all that as if I'd have put him in those exact matches to begin with...

The end of the Punk Hell in a Cell was perfect. I definitely wouldn't have had The Shield constantly make Ryback their bitch for months on end and I sure as hell wouldn't have given his first clean pinfall loss to Seth fucking Rollins. lol

And how exactly would Ryback beating The Shield at, say, Elimination Chamber, make Cena and Sheamus look weak???
Oh come on now!
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that's a pretty short-sighted statement
I see what you're saying.

But seriously... fuck 2/3 of The Shield.

Let Ambrose look like he may be able to take him down on his own but ultimately fail. The other two can go straight to hell.
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Holy shit. Someone save that quote and let's revisit this when Ambrose and Reigns are running the show.
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I'm sorry. You need St. Jimmy in here to post some Tyler Black matches to show us all that he's clearly the future. lol
Why can't there be more than one 'future'. It's not a bad thing to build multiple stars you know...
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Can you really see Seth Rollins being the face of the company at some point?
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How would you have booked him? Have him won the title in either match against punk? Single handedly destroy the shield in either match while making two already legitimately built superstars look weak? Or win the rumble? Explain how you would have booked him better in detail, just to back up your claims of him being booked badly.
All you're doing is making the same statement over and over without saying how they could have done it better.
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Can you really see Seth Rollins being the face of the company at some point?
Why not? Jeff Hardy was. The Miz was. Rey Mysterio was. Chris Jericho was. CM Punk is.

Just to name a few.
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I see what you're saying.

But seriously... fuck 2/3 of The Shield.

Let Ambrose look like he may be able to take him down on his own but ultimately fail. The other two can go straight to hell.
in terms of the other two, I'd almost put money on Rollins being the "biggest star" of the whole group. I've said it a million times since he was signed to a developmental deal that he'll blow up like Jeff Hardy if/when he finds his niche. Reigns might as well have been made in a WWE Factory in terms of his size and look and is related to wrestling royalty so he'll get a million opportunities (should he need them) his current role doesn't really play to his strengths outside of "GAHHH *power move*"
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Book him to look like a monster against The Shield... have him in a program with someone else like Show and Ziggler and not make him look like a bitch and come out on top... Keep him winning matches to keep that momentum up. Don't wait til he's on a roll and decide to use that to start putting someone else over. It's ridiculous.
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Reigns might as well have been made in a WWE Factory in terms of his size and look and is related to wrestling royalty so he'll get a million opportunities (should he need them) his current role doesn't really play to his strengths outside of "GAHHH *power move*"
Kinda like Ryback
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Why not? Jeff Hardy was. The Miz was. Rey Mysterio was. Chris Jericho was. CM Punk is.

Just to name a few.
I said "the face of the company".
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I said "the face of the company".
You honestly believe that Ryback can be the Hulk Hogan or John Cena of WWE? Like legit believe that?
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in terms of the other two, I'd almost put money on Rollins being the "biggest star" of the whole group. I've said it a million times since he was signed to a developmental deal that he'll blow up like Jeff Hardy if/when he finds his niche. Reigns might as well have been made in a WWE Factory in terms of his size and look and is related to wrestling royalty so he'll get a million opportunities (should he need them) his current role doesn't really play to his strengths outside of "GAHHH *power move*"
I actually think Reigns' current role is fitting for him. He looks like a guy who would audition for the role of a bodyguard in a movie and get the part before he even opens his mouth. Him as the muscle of the group is fitting. I just don't see that as a role that's gonna catapult a guy to stardom and I don't see him working out on his own.
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Kinda like Ryback
outside of the "doesn't play to his strengths" part, yah, he's been given a million chances/placed in a bunch of advantageous situations to truly look like a star. If The Rock or Steve Austin had been given the same treatment from day 1, they'd have been on top already by this point in Ryback's career.
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I actually think Reigns' current role is fitting for him. He looks like a guy who would audition for the role of a bodyguard in a movie and get the part before he even opens his mouth. Him as the muscle of the group is fitting. I just don't see that as a role that's gonna catapult a guy to stardom and I don't see him working out on his own.
oh he absolutely fits the role well, I just mean in terms of we probably aren't going to know if he's anything special/going to make some real money or not until he gets a chance to shine on his own
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outside of the "doesn't play to his strengths" part, yah, he's been given a million chances/placed in a bunch of advantageous situations to truly look like a star. If The Rock or Steve Austin had been given the same treatment from day 1, they'd have been on top already by this point in Ryback's career.

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You honestly believe that Ryback can be the Hulk Hogan or John Cena of WWE? Like legit believe that?
lol Is this six months ago again? Do we need to go rehash the old Ryback threads or are we gonna just have this discussion again?
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lol Is this six months ago again? Do we need to go rehash the old Ryback threads or are we gonna just have this discussion again?
It was a yes or no question, no discussion needed, not that hard to answer
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outside of the "doesn't play to his strengths" part, yah, he's been given a million chances/placed in a bunch of advantageous situations to truly look like a star.
... Wait, what?
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WWE have played to Ryback's strengths i.e he looks like a machine and he has been placed in a lot of situations meant to accentuate and capitalize on that.
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It was a yes or no question, no discussion needed, not that hard to answer
Yes. The man has the fucking it factor. As is evidence by the crowd reactions he was getting during the Punk feud. People were pumped to see him as the next big thing. The thought that he might actually win the title and there could be the birth of a new star (though not pulling the trigger was the right move) was refreshing.

You wouldn't have gotten nearly the same reaction if Seth Rollins or Luther Reigns had debuted, squashed guys for a few months and then faced off with Punk. There's a reason for that.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:10 PM   #186
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WWE have played to Ryback's strengths i.e he looks like a machine and he has been placed in a lot of situations meant to accentuate and capitalize on that.
He has. He's also been placed in situations that use his his strengths to put other people over instead.
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Yes. The man has the fucking it factor. As is evidence by the crowd reactions he was getting during the Punk feud.
I'd personally say this has a hell of a lot more to do with people wanting to see Punk get killed. Big difference. Check the crowds reaction at the PPV just gone. If you're going to claim that's a result of the way he's been booked recently, check Orton's reaction on the same show. There's a difference between it factor and WWE trying really hard to get people to buy into somebody as the next huge star. This isn't to say Ryback can't be that guy. I just seems he hasn't worked out quite as they hoped.
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Yes.
Thank you. That is all that I wanted.
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Like seriously, that was it. None of that other shit.
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Wait... does it make you angry to hear that? Is that it?
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Wait... does it make you angry to hear that? Is that it?
Fuck me

Is that your go to line or something?

I asked a question and wanted a yes or no answer, not a fucking novel on why. Sometimes simplicity is fine dear.
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Hmm... I feel like you might get angry when someone discusses why Ryback is megastar material.

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I would have Ryback remain a lone wolf, not team with shit eating baby faces.

Yeah I'm kind of being a mark about all of this, but I think after getting tossed out of the rumble match, Ryback should be going for the IC title against Barrett, and then maybe re-evaluated for a WWE title hunt in the fall when business is slooooow.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:35 AM   #194
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He's jobbed on PPV 5 months straight and he's been the Shield's bitch. That "animal" aura and the momentum he had when the crowd was going nuts watching him take out Punk has gone on a ridiculous downward spiral.
You're turning into a more annoying poster than me. I posted a similar response in another thread and you ignored it.

He was pinned at EC after being manhandled by The Shield who are easily the best trio we've seen in a while. Big deal, it didn't hurt him.
He was the last one eliminated in the Royal Rumble match by the face of the WWE, John Cena. Makes him look like a fucking star.
He was the only one left moving when The Shield got the pin in the 6 MAN TAG TLC MATCH at TLC. He looked like a beast after throwing Rollins through those tables.
He was in the main event (not even pinned) with the 2 biggest names WWE has full time. And was put out by a debuting Shield who have still yet to lose. Not making him look bad at all.
And finally, at Hell In A Cell he was low blowed and fast counted. And got right back up and destroyed Punk.

You're a moron. Because I proved my point am I "angry?" Since that's all you can respond with?
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Like Mark Henry, Ryback seems to have a specific facial expression etched on his face at all times. But unlike Henry's impending doom facial expression, Ryback always looks like someone has just shoved a gerbil up his ass.
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Woah woah woah. Whilst I happen to agree with you on this topic, lets not go that far.
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They tried to do too much, too soon with Ryback.

That's where the Goldberg comparison fails. Goldberg's push was for more gradual; taking out jobbers, working through the lower card, picking up a Midcard title before taking the top prize. Ryback went from taking out jobbers to competing for the WWE Title. It was too early/not the right time for him to win the belt so he had to lose, which is/was unfortunate but ultimately unavoidable.
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