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Old 10-06-2005, 12:06 AM   #81
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It would be an awesome "whoa" moment.


Gunna go scan the boards...
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:36 AM   #82
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WHOA


I just watched the episode again, and during the Orientation film when they showed Jarold and Karen (The Creators) i paused to get a better look at them and noticed Jarolds beard, and it looked exactly like the one that the guy who kidnapped Walt had on the finale, i put on the dvd to see if they looked simalar and they do, and there is also a blonde woman on the boat who looks like Karen.

I think think that Jarold and Karen and all the people who worked at Dharma are actually "The Others" and are monitoring the island.








That is a very good theory. As is this...


forgive me if i reiterate. i'm just dropping in after not having much time online. but i missed this place and wanted to share what i've been thinking about.

okay, so what is all being studied? or was mentioned as subjects of study during the Dharma Project? (forgive me if i'm a bit off, they rattled them off pretty fast and that film was SHITE quality)

Social Psychology: so okay. studying people in groups. seeing how they survive in panic situations. that is pretty much the whole bleedin crash. or even how they react to frightening situations. like the monster? it could all be elaborate to scare people to see how they handle it.

ParaPsychology: this is a big one! parapsychology is a pretty wide range. it's sorta like studying the unexplained, X Files stuff. things like ghosts---say, Jack's dad? or mind reading....like it sure seems Walt might be able to do.

Animal Biology/Genetics: lemme reiterate.....GIANT FRIGGIN POLAR BEARS IN A JUNGLE

ElectroMagnetics: okay, i hope this doesn't have to be explained. electromagnetics isn't just a concept of compasses not working ((like sayid pointed out)). or plane's dropping from the sky ((uh...flight 815 anyone?)) it's also a biological matter. we all have electromagnetic currents moving through us. some think that raising or lowering these can alter our perception, and the way we are linked to other people.


Othere than that, not too many speculations. Some say the owner of the Dharma company or whatever looks familiar. Like Jack's father or possibly Locke's. Or not.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:05 AM   #83
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I hope Jin hasn't been able to speak English this whole time. That would completely destroy the character development made between him and Sun up until now.

Anyone else get pissed at Jack when he pressed the button?
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Yeah, why would he still hide his ability to speak English when he ran from the Others on the beach, and again when he was in a freaking cage? Surely that would be a good time to start speaking English.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:07 AM   #85
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Anyone else get pissed at Jack when he pressed the button?
Oh, yeah, right there with you, bub.
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ElectroMagnetics: okay, i hope this doesn't have to be explained. electromagnetics isn't just a concept of compasses not working ((like sayid pointed out)). or plane's dropping from the sky ((uh...flight 815 anyone?)) it's also a biological matter. we all have electromagnetic currents moving through us. some think that raising or lowering these can alter our perception, and the way we are linked to other people.
I was thinking about this and how in some eastern cultures (not to mention "New Age" medicine) they believe magnets have the power to heal and since the show seems to have a eastern influence (Dharma, chinese characters with meanings regarding the characters, etc) could this be the reason that Locke is able to walk again given the island's magnetic... properties, i.e. the place in the bunker where the key that hangs from Jack's neck was being pulled ?
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Old 10-06-2005, 08:24 PM   #87
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Yeah, I seriously doubt that Jin can speak english. I bet its like a dream sequence or some other explanation. And if the explanation is "he could speak english this whole time" I'm seriously going to stop watching.
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I'm seriously going to stop watching.
yea, I'm sure you're gonna do that

I do see a similarity in the two women (or one woman) in your pics, but not the guy.

god my mom goes to these boards and reads all these posts about guys just analyzing every single detail about the show. She was telling me of all these thoeries people have. It's like thier life goal to figure the show out. They're like hardcore detectives of Lost.

what losers.
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Yeah, why would he still hide his ability to speak English when he ran from the Others on the beach, and again when he was in a freaking cage? Surely that would be a good time to start speaking English.
there's so many answers to "why." just try and think why a guy would want to hide his ability to speak English with the other people. I can think of several reasons, especially with his background.
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hey RoXer, you got a pic of that picture that was on Desmond's shelf that had like his family in it?
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When was it in the episode and I'll take a screen of it.
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fuck, you guys are starting to make me analyze this shit now.

About RoXer's post again, I'm a Pysch minor and I've studied a lot about the different types of experiments done with all the kinds of pyschologies. And looking back at everything right now, I swear this whole thing feels like a human experiment using naturalistic observation. Like it seems whomever is doing the studies have planted " unique situations" around the island just to see how the people react to them. Scientists look for cause and effect relationships to see exactly what causes certain behaviors in people.

pretty interesting in that view
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yea, I'm sure you're gonna do that

I do see a similarity in the two women (or one woman) in your pics, but not the guy.

god my mom goes to these boards and reads all these posts about guys just analyzing every single detail about the show. She was telling me of all these thoeries people have. It's like thier life goal to figure the show out. They're like hardcore detectives of Lost.

what losers.
Yeah, word. Meanwhile, I'm reading these losers and believing them and thinking that I now understand whats going on.


And yeah, there was a picture of Desmond and his girlfriend or whatever. Some said it looked like Jack's wife but then they agreed that Jack would have made a bigger deal about it when he confronted Desmond in the jungle.

I'll go find the pic. Gimme a minute.
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When was it in the episode and I'll take a screen of it.
it was the last one. It was a quick shot of it. I'm not sure where it is in the episode though\ It's definately inside the hatch though on like a table or shelf or something.
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Yeah, word. Meanwhile, I'm reading these losers and believing them and thinking that I now understand whats going on.


And yeah, there was a picture of Desmond and his girlfriend or whatever. Some said it looked like Jack's wife but then they agreed that Jack would have made a bigger deal about it when he confronted Desmond in the jungle.

I'll go find the pic. Gimme a minute.
yea, that's what my mom was telling me that it was Jack's wife. Jack went really insane during that episode and it was a really wierd conversation between Desmond and Jack right before Desmond ran off. About his wife and stuff.
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Also, the pic didn't really look like his wife. I'm having a hell of a time finding it.
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Here is the picture. I tried to lighten it up a little because it was pretty dark...not sure if it will be too bright though so tell me how it looks.
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There you go. And they all agreed that it did not look like his wife.

Kelvin was Desmond's roomate.
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yea, good job DS. Looking at it in still mode doesn't make me think it's Jack's wife. But I haven't seen Jack's wife since the last episode she was in, so.....
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http://www.lost-forum.com/showthread...6&page=2&pp=15


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http://www.lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=16051


A pretty good thread about the significance of "The Turning of the Screw"
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reading that just makes my head hurt.

I think we may be thinking too much and analyzing too much. I bet the answers to our questions are just right in front of our eyes, but we're missing them because it's too easy.

there's another theory going around that that big black dude is the husband of "Helen" Helen was the fat black lady you saw in the 1st episode crying about her husband. Remember she said her husband went to the back of the plane before it crashed?

The actor who played her went to Braodway, so that's why she hasn't been seen.
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:06 AM   #105
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there's so many answers to "why." just try and think why a guy would want to hide his ability to speak English with the other people. I can think of several reasons, especially with his background.
I dunno, the only one that comes to mind is that he lied about it at first but now it's been so long he doesn't want everybody to hate him for not speaking it earlier.
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fuck, you guys are starting to make me analyze this shit now.

About RoXer's post again, I'm a Pysch minor and I've studied a lot about the different types of experiments done with all the kinds of pyschologies. And looking back at everything right now, I swear this whole thing feels like a human experiment using naturalistic observation. Like it seems whomever is doing the studies have planted " unique situations" around the island just to see how the people react to them. Scientists look for cause and effect relationships to see exactly what causes certain behaviors in people.

pretty interesting in that view
But for them to just come out and make it obvious like that, it doesn't really make sense for the show. I think it started out like that just for the different hatches on the island (The Swan was outpost 3, right?). But something mysterious happened on the island and all hell broke loose.
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:17 AM   #107
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Although seemingly plausible, I don't think that there's any way for it to be a sociology experiment, simply because if that was in fact the twist, they wouldn't have mentioned it in the show before it was revealed. They are gonna drop a bombshell I bet.
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Old 10-07-2005, 12:18 AM   #108
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Maybe they're trying to distract us with that obvious one so they can slip in undetected clues as to the actual reason(s).
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:58 PM   #110
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I gotta say these scenes with the piano/flute/melodies playing in the background while the camea pans around to everyone are my favorites.
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Old 10-12-2005, 11:45 PM   #111
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Are you kidding me?!? This is nothing more than a Bruckheimer--

Oh, wait. That was somebody else.

Yeah, definitely the best-written show on TV. So, place your bets, kids, who's going to be the one to not push the button inside the 108-minute timeframe?

Also, how long until they figure out that their bunker connects to the one that Ana-Lucia, Rose's husband, and Adebisi are in? Two big bunkers on the same island? No coincidence.

God, I can't get enough of this show.
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:13 AM   #113
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Yeah, even a slow, emotional character development based episode is still good stuff. Not every episode has to be a huge mystery charged cliff hanger.
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:17 AM   #114
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Yeah, just character development this week. Nothing really "shocking".
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Just wanted to talk about a few things about the episode last night. There will be SPOILERS in my post if you have not seen the Oct 12th episode, so consider yourself warned.






I thought the episode was great last night. I wanted to see more of the other surivivors (Adebisi and Rodriguez). The episode started out looking like we were going to get a good look at what's going on in their camp but that storyline got dropped in the last half hour of the show.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we see Rose's husband in the pilot episode on the plane and wasn't he black?

Anybody else think, giving the looks of the second bunker (Adebisi and Rodriguez's group's) that it looks the Dharma project was ended a long time ago and for some reason Desmond's "pod" never recieved word?
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:54 PM   #118
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Nope, we never saw Rose's husband.
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:38 PM   #119
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