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Old 04-15-2015, 01:34 PM   #1
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Your Favorite Heel Runs

When I ask about favorite heel runs I don't particularly mean the popular or critically acclaimed variety (HHH 2000, HBK and Bret '97, Seth Rollins 2014, etc...), but rather which ones you enjoyed the most because the wrestler turned it up to an 11, and took it so over the top that you just look back and it makes you smile.

I was thinking of a ton of them, but 2 stand out in my mind: Bossman in late '99 (Big Show and Al Snow feuds) and the 2011 R-Truth run were almost magical in their camp and bizarreness, and I have a fonder memory of them than for the "serious" heel runs and turns of higher level guys for whatever reason.

Anybody else have any, and, if so, do you think that WWE could implement something like that today and have a modicum of success with it? At least create memories like runs of the past have?


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Old 04-15-2015, 01:39 PM   #2
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When I ask about favorite heel runs I don't particularly mean the popular or critically acclaimed variety (HHH 2000, HBK and Bret '97, Seth Rollins 2014, etc...), but rather which ones you enjoyed the most because the wrestler turned it up to an 11, and took it so over the top that you just look back and it makes you smile.

I was thinking of a ton of them, but 2 stand out in my mind: Bossman in late '99 (Big Show and Al Snow feuds) and the 2011 R-Truth run were almost magical in their camp and bizarreness, and I have a fonder memory of them than for the "serious" heel runs and turns of higher level guys for whatever reason.

Anybody else have any, and, if so, do you think that WWE could implement something like that today and have a modicum of success with it? At least create memories like runs of the past have?

'Hollywood' Hulk Hogan ftw.

IMO the only wrestler to have played the role of face and heel both perfectly. Even The Rock as a heel never convinced me and Austin as a heel was terrible.

Essentially, it was Hogan's heel turn combined with the NWO angle that really put WCW in the commanding position in the Monday Night Wars etc..

Can't have a discussion about the greatest heels of all time and not mention Hogan.
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:45 PM   #3
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:05 PM   #4
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:12 PM   #5
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'Hollywood' Hulk Hogan ftw.

IMO the only wrestler to have played the role of face and heel both perfectly. Even The Rock as a heel never convinced me and Austin as a heel was terrible.

Essentially, it was Hogan's heel turn combined with the NWO angle that really put WCW in the commanding position in the Monday Night Wars etc..

Can't have a discussion about the greatest heels of all time and not mention Hogan.
Stone Cold was a terrible heel. Stunning Steve Austin was not.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:13 PM   #6
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:19 PM   #7
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Miss the R-Truth heel days .

Goldust as a heel back in the day was amazing. Stardust is attempting to get their currently.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:25 PM   #8
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I do it all the time, but I feel like I have to mention Doink the Clown as a heel. As a face, he was almost unbearable, but that initial heel run was stuff of legend.
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:55 PM   #9
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I liked Punk's heel turn against Jeff Hardy in 2009. Jeff had been scratching for the WHC for a while, he FINALLY won, and then Punk came out and took it from him.
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:04 PM   #10
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All time is definitely Jericho's WCW heel run, was a huge fan of Daniel Bryan's WHC run. WHC Swagger was also surprisingly entertaining. NXT Redemption era Johnny Curtis was fantastic.

Hollywood Rock and Douchebag Batista were both pretty great too actually, if short lived.
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:14 PM   #11
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Randy Orton's legend killer run was the best. Need more punts to the head.
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:33 PM   #12
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Dashing / Undashing Cody Rhodes was also hot shit.
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:39 PM   #13
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:46 PM   #14
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Old 04-15-2015, 04:46 PM   #15
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Old 04-15-2015, 05:17 PM   #16
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I really enjoyed Sgt. Slaughter's heel work in the early 80s in Jim Crockett Promotions.

Him and Don Kernodle were fantastic as a tag team. Their feud with Ricky Steamboat and Jay Youngblood was awesome.





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Old 04-15-2015, 05:38 PM   #17
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CM Punk's heel run in 2009 was amazing. I don't even know how to really describe how much I enjoyed it. The initial cash-in, where Punk was relishing in his crappulance as crowds booed, but he hadn't really turned yet; the microphone shot to Jeff Hardy -- this was as close as we would get to the ROH incarnation of CM Punk.

Chris Jericho's complete transformation in 2008 was legendary. It was so complete that Jericho basically forced his way to the World Heavyweight Title. Best defined by an intense rivalry with Shawn Michaels, this was truthfully one of HBK's best programs ever too.

Daniel Bryan's heel run with the World Heavyweight Title was also marvelous. I wasn't on board with Bryan turning heel at first, but I had no clue how much life would come out of him as a performer. He was perfect as a dickbag heel. He made the fucking Big Show sympathetic ("YOU are a BASTARD!"). I personally thought Bryan's run with the Big Gold Belt should have extended past WrestleMania, but if it had, Bryan might have gone down as a legendary heel, but never had that YES! Movement moment.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:11 PM   #18
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Hollywood Hogan and Business suit era Jericho.

Hogan mostly because of the turn itself and Jericho because of how well he managed to revamp his entire character by going the more corporate/serious route.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:24 PM   #19
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Noid has it spot on.

CM Punk is incredible whatever he does when he's a heel. As is Chris Jericho. Daniel Bryan starting off face but "yes" thing initially making him a heel was glorious.

R-Truth in 2011 was an unexpected surprise. Remember when R-Truth and Miz were running rampant so badly that the entire roster walked out because Triple H was doing a shitty job?
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:51 PM   #20
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Except for Booker T, who just had to go to the bathroom.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:56 PM   #21
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Raven's ECW run was pretty awesome. I kept waiting week after week for Dreamer to finally win.
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:37 PM   #22
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When Angle first came in, he was a better heel than most guys who had been in the business for a decade. He was incredible.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:48 PM   #23
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Cant believe no mention of Mark Henry.

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Old 04-15-2015, 11:26 PM   #24
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An older one, but when Rick Martel became "The Model", he played it perfectly and became the character. Think he should have been bigger and was ahead of his time with that one.

As for a weird one, I actually really enjoyed " Marvelous" Marc Mero. He was never a great worker, but played the character really well with his mannerisms and reactions to things.
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Old 04-15-2015, 11:38 PM   #26
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Christian(after his split from Edge) when he went on his own. He went from goofy ass partner to straight up BOSS. His shit with Jericho and Trish was the shit.
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SES CM Punk was so awesome the heat he got at house shows for his Messiah undertones was unbelievable esp in the uber religous south people telling him he was going to hell and that he was the devil and he just soaked it all in must've felt great.
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I did also love the "Undashing" chapter in Cody Rhodes' career.
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Old 04-15-2015, 11:46 PM   #29
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I did also love the "Undashing" chapter in Cody Rhodes' career.
I felt like there was so much life left in that gimmick
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Old 04-15-2015, 11:54 PM   #30
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As for a weird one, I actually really enjoyed " Marvelous" Marc Mero. He was never a great worker, but played the character really well with his mannerisms and reactions to things.
"Sable... dis-robe me!"

I'm a big fan of Lance Storm's "hat trick" run in WCW. The jingoistic, borderline racist Canadian with who was every bit as good as he claimed was golden.
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Old 04-16-2015, 01:01 AM   #31
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I liked Punk's heel turn against Jeff Hardy in 2009. Jeff had been scratching for the WHC for a while, he FINALLY won, and then Punk came out and took it from him.
Eddie's heel turn and feud with Rey in summer 2005, shortly before his untimely passing. RIP. Can't believe this November marks a full decade since that happened. Wonder if the Network will do any kind of program about his life and career...be awesome if they did.
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As for a weird one, I actually really enjoyed " Marvelous" Marc Mero. He was never a great worker, but played the character really well with his mannerisms and reactions to things.
I concur 100% on this one. A forgotten gem of the late 90's.
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Jericho vs WCW, Orton's initial Legend Killer run, Hollywood Blondes, Jeff Hardy's Antichrist, Devitt/Bullet Club etc in terms of things that haven't been mentioned
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I fucking HATED Justin Credible in ECW. People crap on him because ECW was on its way down, but my God was he ever an obnoxious heel. I thought he was fantastic.
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I fucking HATED Justin Credible in ECW. People crap on him because ECW was on its way down, but my God was he ever an obnoxious heel. I thought he was fantastic.

That reminds me Steve Corino the dude was a heat machine for pretty much his entire ECW run.
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