08-25-2015, 03:10 PM | #121 |
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Since I appreciate your clever insults as way of communication, give me something from.nxt to watch wheres the best girl on girl match to start with. What will blow my mind?
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08-25-2015, 03:12 PM | #122 |
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Nope. You can do that on your own pal. It's not my responsibility to hold your handand walk you through matches that have taken place with dedicated threads the last two years.. Go read the takeover threads and figure it out for yourself
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08-25-2015, 03:21 PM | #123 |
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So basically you got nothing. Figured. You keep shouting this nxt fanboy shit about its so different and im still trying to get one question answered that you are dodging. WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MATCH ABOUT, WHAT ARE THEY FEUDING OVER. WHAT STORY IS BEING FUCKING TOLD YOU DOLT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT FANS INVESTING IN A MATCH MEANS? IF GENERIC LOOKING WOMEN COME DOWN TO THE RING AND HSVE A SLOPPY MATCH OVER NOTHING WHY DON'T YOU GET IT THAT THE MASSES DONT GIVE A FUCK.
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08-25-2015, 03:30 PM | #124 |
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There's plenty out there for you to watch. But that's gonna be done on your own accord. If you're too stupid and lazy to look at the takeover thread from 3 days ago to figure out that, hey, there as helluva women's match on that card that stole the show and told a great story, then you can't be helped.
If you were actually smart enough to watch the match instead of coming back to your keyboard making yourself look like a complete moron, you may have figured that out already. Instead of giving Fan more ammo to call you the worst poster ever, why don't you watch the match from Saturday and come back and try and say it's exactly the same as the shit they put on television. Go ahead. |
08-25-2015, 03:38 PM | #125 |
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Fan is a fucking moron. Hes probably canadian. Im watching kerry von erich whoop mr perfect right now (underrated theme for texas tornado for 1990 dont you agree) then I will scope oit your GLOW dreammatch and give you my opinion on the precious ladies
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08-25-2015, 03:48 PM | #126 |
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Lol don't even watch GLOW. I'm a dubbya dubbya e guy. Can't believe you have the network and have seen zero diva matches in nxt. Go watch every takeover ever and come back then and only then.
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08-25-2015, 03:52 PM | #127 |
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I watch the shit of nxt. I just cant stand women's wrestling. And not even to the point of simplefuck saying its a gay issue. Its really the women are crowd killers. And yea I never watched glow either I was just making jokes. That shit looked worse than even divas. Remember that donna costello lady from the forst survivor series. Haha
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08-25-2015, 03:56 PM | #128 |
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08-25-2015, 04:44 PM | #129 | |
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Observer ended up revealing a bit of the story he heard about the plans changing. He did confirm Cena has been vocal in the past when plans were for Nikki to drop the belt but couldn't confirm if that was done again for the Divas Revolution.
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08-25-2015, 05:05 PM | #130 |
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ok DemonRay, here's what i have for you, being as objective as possible
Negative: having stephanie come out and intro, its nitpicking but if you want a big match let it speak for itself. she doesn't need to hype it at the ppv, she needed to prior positive: the storyline while done alot before gave you a reason to root for bayley, the underdog vs the champ, this is key because its missing from every other womens match, a story. however the twist on this one hurt it a little where it's bayley has had the opportunites just never capitilized. kind of gives it that jobber being pushed vibe. like i say its a plus they gave the match a story. positive: both entrances were good negative: a split crowd, now this is debateable but when you have a split crowd you either havent sold the story the way you wrote it out, or the crowd is just stupid and being assholes. it's brooklyn so could be either one. but in a main event where you are trying to push your face over a massive heel the crowd being 50/50 isnt good positive spots: the sasha kicking bayley off the second rope sold nicely double knees on top rope Plancha onto the outside over the ref corner suplex was solid ending sequence was nice, the suplex being a basic finisher but both elevated on it to make it look more devastating negative: 8 mins in theres a short resthold where the camera shows the first 5 rows, crowd is absolutely uninterested negative: too many fist exchanges for my taste negative: bayleys botch off the top, nothing major, shit happens negative: corey graves. nothing the fault of the girls, but to sell a match correctly graves needed to go less heel and more storyline to make it come together at the end. again you are trying to push bayley to champion status so riding her ass the whole match while cosigning every heelish action of banks doesnt sell the final 1-2-3 the way it should overall to me it was just another womens match. the title being on the line added mmph to it that you dont get on raw but in all honesty anything they did in the ring was trumped simply by kevin owens' entrance. the huggy shit at the end with the 4 horsefaces would have sold better to me if there was some delay in sasha making the gesture. could have been cleaner, a slow rentry to the ring, stare her down, leaving the other girls to wonder, then a handshake, then a hug. of course, sorry for the noid length. |
08-25-2015, 06:40 PM | #131 |
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I think we've pushed Corky Smiley past his breaking point. Aneurysm coming. Good work gang.
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08-25-2015, 06:43 PM | #132 |
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Pointless and off topic
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08-25-2015, 06:53 PM | #133 |
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Fuckin' muties
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08-25-2015, 07:37 PM | #134 |
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Banks vs. Lynch is one of the best matches I have ever seen. I have no problem saying that I think it was better than Cena vs. Owens.
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08-25-2015, 08:05 PM | #135 |
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Lmao, wow dude
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08-25-2015, 09:46 PM | #136 |
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He's not wrong. Hell of a match.
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08-25-2015, 09:48 PM | #137 |
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Every single cruiserweight match I saw on nitro from 95-98 was better than that match
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08-25-2015, 11:17 PM | #138 |
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Nope. Nothing was on the line during those interchangable matches. Nothing mattered. Same old shit every week. Fuck that.
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08-26-2015, 12:38 AM | #139 |
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Ultimo dragon had like 9 belts, so much on the line. Fuck yea
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08-26-2015, 12:45 AM | #140 |
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08-26-2015, 03:23 AM | #141 |
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Conversely, the Bailey Vs. Lynch match from NXT with Sasha on commentary was at the level of these Divas' Revolution Raw matches.
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08-26-2015, 03:31 AM | #142 |
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I enjoyed that Bayley/Lynch match.... Wasn't as good as Bayley/Charlotte, but was still good...
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08-26-2015, 02:10 PM | #143 |
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You're wrong. Those matches are clearly just another women's match. Get your head out of your ass.
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08-26-2015, 08:09 PM | #144 |
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08-27-2015, 10:23 PM | #145 |
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Love NXT women's rassling. Which NXT women's rassling match would you like to see next, gang?
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08-28-2015, 12:53 AM | #146 |
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More Eva Marie please. Every match is more entertaining than the last. Even her entrance and post match celebrations are cringe worthy.
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08-28-2015, 04:44 AM | #147 |
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08-28-2015, 04:47 AM | #148 |
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Nothing will come of it. WWE hasn't taken the women's division seriously in over a decade. They do have some good talent. But they get pushed to the side cause the spotlight is on the skank that is currently sucking Cena's roid shrunken cock.
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08-28-2015, 09:01 AM | #149 |
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Lol why do you sound so upset about it?
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08-28-2015, 12:27 PM | #150 |
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Which of the current bitches has the best mic skills? The bellas sound like idiots on the mic are any of the call ups any better? Dont say paige or the irish one, fuck their accents.
Are any of them better on the mic than past divas? Are trish and lita the benchmark when comparing a diva? Everyone is in full agreement here that lynch/bayley was a better match than trish/lita that main evented raw? |
08-28-2015, 12:30 PM | #151 |
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When you're sitting there claiming you "objectively" find the nxt divas matches no different than the horse shit on Raw, does it really matter in the end what people are gonna tell you?
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08-28-2015, 01:31 PM | #152 |
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Of course, I value each and every poster's opinion greatly
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08-28-2015, 01:34 PM | #153 |
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08-28-2015, 01:39 PM | #154 |
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NormanSmiley, damn man, who put that red on you? Have you been running roughshod down here?
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08-28-2015, 01:45 PM | #155 |
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Lance Storm on the "Divas Revolution"
http://www.stormwrestling.com/082715.html Q: I've heard two schools of thought on the divas revolution. One, that it's a dud and the same formula with different faces, and second, that it's a proverbial "slow burn" and it will get there in due time. Your thoughts? A: Before I get into my thoughts on what they are doing let me first state that I am a big fan and supporter of women's wrestling and have a great deal of respect for many of the women involved in the "Divas revolution". For the most part I think the Divas Revolution is being screwed and unless they change the way it is being presented it will fail, or at least not succeed to the level it could or more importantly should. To fully understand why you have to look at how the women are presented in NXT and how that enabled them to get over to the level that they did, and then look at how they are being presented in WWE and consider if that will also allow them to get over to that same level. In NXT they are women wrestlers, they are competing for the NXT Women's Championship; a title belt that looks credible (actually better than the Men's Title in my opinion) and therefore can be respected. We were never told that the women were going to be taken seriously or that they were going to have good matches and be respected. They were just presented on the show in a respectable light, allowed to focus on competing to be a champion, and given enough time to do a good job if they were able. The women worked hard, had good matches, were given good angles, and fans started to care, and they got over. It was in a sense Organic. In WWE the women are "Divas" a term when used in any other industry is a derogatory term referring to stuck up bitchy women. They compete (occasionally) for the Diva's Title, which is a purple belt with a butterfly on it. At best this looks like a Barbie toy belt and at worst it's derogatory and offensive because of the female sexual euphemism for butterfly. The women in WWE need a new title belt to compete for and in all honesty it needs to be renamed the WWE Women's World Title. Furthermore coming out and telling us there is a Diva's Revolution and the women are going to be good and important now, was a big mistake. Don't tell us it's going to be good, just let it be good and we will come to that conclusion all on our own, like we did with NXT. Also in NXT each woman was given her turn to be focused on and chase the title. This allowed us to get behind them and follow their journey and struggle, while keeping the focus on becoming Champion. In WWE we are getting 3 groups of 3, which makes it near impossible to focus on the women individually and form an attachment to any of them and it has completely removed the focus on the title and being a champion. In NXT the women got over one at a time. Paige won the first NXT Women's Title Tournament in a really good match with Emma, which started the ball rolling. When Paige got called up, she was stripped of the title and another tournament was held. Charlotte won this tournament in an awesome match with Nattie, to set her up and get her over. Sasha was then pushed and focused on and she got over, with Becky in a secondary role. Baylee was used to get Charlotte and Sasha over while building her own underdog status. Becky then got the focus and the push and she got over huge even in losing her title challenge (an amazing accomplishment). The long slow build was then finally paid off with Baylee in Brooklyn and we all saw what a great reaction she got winning the title. Since the start of the Diva's revolution on RAW the title has not been the focus at all. PCB are faces, Team BAD are heels, and Team Bella float back and forth. All are getting wins and losses, no one is moving forwards or backwards and no individual is getting focus on directly. We are constantly being told it's a new era, but to be honest we are just getting slightly longer, slightly better matches, with a few new faces. When the crowd on RAW in Brooklyn turned on the women's match it wasn't the fault of the crowd nor the fault of the women, it was the way it was presented. In the promo to set up the match Nikki Bella actually said that wins and losses didn't matter and that these muti-diva matches are pointless. She said the only thing that mattered was the Diva's Title and how she will soon be the longest reigning Diva's Champ of all time. How can anyone be surprised or angry that the crowd gave up on the match that followed when they were flat out told before it started that it didn't matter? Furthermore how can we care about Nikki's long title reign when I doubt anyone even remember the last time she defended it? I do remember both Sasha and Charlotte making Nikki tap out to win tag matches, a fact that wasn't focus on, nor did it earn them a title match. To get this thing over you have to completely overhaul the way in which it is presented, like they did in NXT. You must focus on each woman in turn with a constant focus on the Championship. Unfortunately because they also have to focus on and promote Total Divas, they have to focus on a large group of women, in particularly the Bellas, so this may be impossible. The Bellas have improved a ton over the last couple years and they are more than capable of having good matches, but in my opinion as long as they are being focused on, this will never feel new. |
08-28-2015, 01:58 PM | #156 |
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08-28-2015, 02:00 PM | #157 |
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08-28-2015, 02:05 PM | #158 |
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Lance Storm hitting the nail on the head.
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08-28-2015, 04:01 PM | #160 |
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When they started I feared it'd just be a way of keeping people distracted whilst Nikki racked up a couple more months with the belt. Seems that could be the case. Things might change once she breaks the record but it could be too late by then.
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