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Old 04-25-2015, 06:49 AM   #1
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WWE.Com's Top 50 Talkers in Wrestling History
On this weeks Squared Circle Gazette podcast we decided to dive in to WWE.Com's Top 50 Talkers in Wrestling History list that they put out a while ago, since it caught my eye as an interesting topic of discussion. So for those interested in promo discussion, below is the link as we talk about the rankings, who should be higher or lower, who shouldn't be on at all, and some of the names that were inexplicably left off. A pretty fun show, check it out and let me know what you think~!

http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean....sOfAllTime.mp3

And as a general discussion point, here was the list itself, what do you make of it?

50. Scott Steiner
49. Joel Gertner
48. Jimmy Valiant
47. Zeb Colter
46. New Jack
45. The Grand Wizard of Wrestling
44. Brian Pillman
43. JBL
42. Thunderbolt Patterson
41. The Miz
40. Kevin Sullivan
39. William Regal
38. Tazz
37. Stephanie McMahon
36. Ernie Ladd
35. Kurt Angle
34. Bray Wyatt
33. Rick Rude
32. Gary Hart
31. Ultimate Warrior
30. Michael P.S. Hayes
29. Nick Bockwinkel
28. Raven
27. Jesse Ventura
26. Jerry Lawler
25. The Million Dollar Man
24. Terry Funk
23. Shawn Michaels
22. Harley Race
21. Edge
20. Captain Lou Albano
19. Triple H
18. Macho Man Randy Savage
17. Jim Cornette
16. CM Punk
15. Arn Anderson
14. Superstar Billy Graham
13. Mr. McMahon
12. John Cena
11. Jake Roberts
10. Chris Jericho
9. Hulk Hogan
8. Bobby The Brain Heenan
7. Mick Foley
6. Paul Heyman
5. Dusty Rhodes
4. Stone Cold Steve Austin
3. Roddy Piper
2. The Rock
1. Ric Flair




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Old 04-25-2015, 07:26 AM   #2
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think Punk would comfortably be in the top ten if he would still have been with the company when it came out
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:27 AM   #3
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Punk should be way higher. Heenan should be number 1. I love the Hulkster but he wasn't a top ten talker. And Macho is too low. That is my opinion and if you use it on your podcast it will cost you Five (5) American dollars!
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:30 AM   #4
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nawww son, Hogan's promos were the shit "back in the day"/until like 1991, would def have him top ten. But yah Savage should have been higher
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:34 AM   #5
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True. I think I'm jaded by his,later stuff "Brother, dude, slamming Andre the Giant, etc" seems like that's all he says now.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:52 AM   #6
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Punk should be like 151.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:06 AM   #7
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warrior should have been top 10. No sting? No Scot Hall?
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:33 AM   #8
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Gonna probably upset a few peeps here but I wouldn't have ranked Flair in the top five, and I've always thought Dusty Rhodes was super overrated as a talker.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:03 AM   #9
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Eddie Guerero was worthy of a mention as was Jim Ross the latter ok not a wrestler but neither was Bobby Heenan who should have ranked higher imo as should have Hogan. Missing out Sting was just criminal though.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:35 AM   #10
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Sting I can see the argument against - he wasn't a great promo for most of his career, he only really got great in TNA.

Punk is an awesome talker, but all time history of the business I don't know about Top 10.

As debated on the podcast, Savage is the hardest one for me to position - I love Savage as a personality, he's so much fun as a promo, but he's not as versatile as a guy like Lawler or Flair.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:36 AM   #11
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The Miz should not be above anyone on that list.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:57 AM   #12
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Nick Bockwinkel and Gary Hart should be much higher on that list.

I wouldn't have Cena in my top 20 either.
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Sting I can see the argument against - he wasn't a great promo for most of his career, he only really got great in TNA.

Punk is an awesome talker, but all time history of the business I don't know about Top 10.

As debated on the podcast, Savage is the hardest one for me to position - I love Savage as a personality, he's so much fun as a promo, but he's not as versatile as a guy like Lawler or Flair.
Are you serious?
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:22 AM   #14
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Sting had great charisma and was good, but he wouldnt be Top 50 all time based on his WCW career. Feel free to bring up a blowaway promo or two you feel should elevate him, its an interesting debate.

Agree with Seth wholeheartedly about Bockwinkel, he's utterly fantastic.
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:26 AM   #15
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Ric Flair over the Rock?

Also Pillman could be a lot lower as Mic Skills go he was ahead of the game
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:58 AM   #16
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10. Chris Jericho
9. CM Punk
8. Dusty Rhodes
7. Bobby Heenan
6. Mick Foley
5. Paul Heyman
4. Stone Cold Steve Austin
3. Roddy Piper
2. Ric Flair
1. The Rock

I would have changed things just a little bit. I honestly think Heyman is top 5, and easily the best non-wrestler on the mic the sport has ever seen.
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Old 04-25-2015, 05:40 PM   #17
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As a pure orator Heyman is absolutely incredible. His post-Mania 30 Raw promo was an utter masterclass, and he's had so many good ones. They Heyman/Heenan debate is a fun one, I'd love to hear the argument for the Brain as I love him too.
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Old 04-25-2015, 08:10 PM   #18
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Based on entertainment value i would go
1. Heyman
2. Heenan
3. The Rock
4. Cornette
5. Flair
6. Austin
7. Punk

Gets a little more difficult after that
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How is JBL that low? How is Scott Steiner even on the list at all?

Heenan is definitely Top 5. Angle should be around top 20.

Rest looks about right.
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Was thinking Ventura should be higher, but who knows
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:05 PM   #21
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Edge on this list in general is ridiculous
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:09 PM   #22
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As is Triple H. But it's a WWE.com list so I'm not too surprised.
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Shawn Micheals ranks highER than Raven and Pillman this list is bullshit HBK over fucking RAVEN!

Raven was goddambn near a poet on the mic

The Miz EVEN BEING ON THIS LIST IS lol material how is Kane not on here
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:14 PM   #24
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1. The Rock
2. SCSA
3. Heyman
4. Macho Man
5. Bubba Ray Dudley
6. Jericho
7. Shane Douglas
8. Mick Foley
9. CM Punk
10. Bray Wyatt
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:50 PM   #25
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Not sure about Scott Steiner on this list. Definitely think that Gino Hernandez deserves to be on it. He was great on the mic.

To say that Tazz is 5 spots ahead of JBL is laughable. JBL was way better than 43rd btw.

It's also laughable to say that Edge was a better talker than The Million Dollar Man.
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Old 04-25-2015, 09:54 PM   #26
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Old 04-26-2015, 11:10 AM   #28
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Was thinking Ventura should be higher, but who knows
I'd agree with that, the WWF stuff is obvious, but his promos alongside Adrian Adonis in the AWA were just brilliant. Great voice and was always very topical.
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Lol.fucking New Jack is on the list. That's fantastic.
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I'd agree with that, the WWF stuff is obvious, but his promos alongside Adrian Adonis in the AWA were just brilliant. Great voice and was always very topical.
His more recent promos about the government's involvement in 9/11 are enough to put him at #1.
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Old 04-26-2015, 03:13 PM   #31
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No "Jumping" Jeff Farmer?

Seriously, I'd go with this...

50. Edge
49. Mr. Ron Wright
48. Bray Wyatt
47. Shane McMahon
46. Lanny Poffo
45. Stephanie McMahon
44. Shawn Michaels
43. Austin Idol
42. New Jack
41. Jimmy Valiant
40. Dutch Mantell (I know Zeb Coulter is his WWE name, but fuck that, I'm going with Dutch.)
39. Triple H
38. The Grand Wizard of Wrestling
37. JBL
36. Brian Pillman
35. Thunderbolt Patterson
34. Kevin Sullivan
33. William Regal
32. Ernie Ladd
31. Kurt Angle
30. Rick Rude
29. Gary Hart
28. Nick Bockwinkel
27. Jesse Ventura
26. The Million Dollar Man
25. Terry Funk
24. Chris Jericho
23. Michael P.S. Hayes
22. Raven
21. Captain Lou Albano
20. John Cena
19. Jerry Lawler
18. Hulk Hogan
17. Harley Race
16. Arn Anderson
15. Superstar Billy Graham
14. CM Punk
13. Mr. McMahon
12. Jim Cornette
11. Macho Man Randy Savage
10. Jake Roberts
9. Dusty Rhodes
8. Jackie Fargo
7. Bobby The Brain Heenan
6. Mick Foley
5. Paul Heyman
4. Stone Cold Steve Austin
3. Roddy Piper
2. Ric Flair
1. The Rock
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Old 04-26-2015, 03:46 PM   #32
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Scott Steiner should be no. 1.
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