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Old 05-31-2015, 12:52 AM   #1
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TNA's top 20 mistakes.
In the 100k1 thread, I cracked how Dixie being an on-screen character wasn't even in the top 20 of Panda Energy's favaorite tax write-off's mistakes. So name those top 20.

I'll start.

1. Hogan.
2. Joe jobs to Angle.
3. The Dupp cup.
4. Aces and Eights
5. Claire Lynch
6. Masturbating midget
7. Jeff Hardy gets high at Turning Point
8. Sharmell vs. That other broad from Main Event Mafia
9. Killing off Samoa Joe instead of making him your top star.
10. Having Jim Cornette on your payroll and not using him for creative.
11. The Johnsons.
12. Not pushing Monty Brown
13. Bubba the Love Sponge
14. Maiming Daphney.
15. Not paying the Knockouts what they're worth.
16. King of the Mountain.
17. Changing the ring.
18. Killing the Impact Zone crowd.
19. Not pushing Black Pope.
20. The Menagerie

Offer your own list. I was going off the top of my head. I'm sure it could be ordered better and I probably missed some whoppers.


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Old 05-31-2015, 01:06 AM   #2
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21. Having Russo on payroll when Spike TV made it clear that he persona non grata.
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Still think putting Dixie on TV should at least be in the top 5. I actually enjoyed Aces & Eights. Hogan at the top spot is correct though.
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21. Having Russo on payroll when Spike TV made it clear that he persona non grata.
You could have ended this post after "payroll."
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1. Hogan, just sucked every thing good out if TNA and made it WWE Jr.
2. Leaving the NWA
3. Putting Dixie Carter on TV.
4. Hireing Vince Russo
5. Fortune, and Immortal were way worse than Aces & Eights.
6. Not giving Christopher Daniels a Heavyweight Title run.
7. Not using Samoa Joe to his full potential
8. Letting AJ Styles walk away.
9. Clair Lynch
10. Taping so far ahead and taping shows based after a PPV befor the PPV.

20 seems like a lot to think of so I'll just stop at the top 10 in my opinion.
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Having Hogan on the list covers that I believe.
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1. Bringing in Vince Russo in 2006. They signed Angle that same week and could have created genuine momentum if somebody with half a brain was booking. Instead his TV killed everybody and made it so that nobody could draw. Infuriating decision because it went exactly as expected going in. TNA never got a foothold, and Russo is the key reason why.
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just 20? there's a whole list...

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If it was just Rebel and Knux, I'd be alright and it wouldn't have made the list. But we also had Crazzzy Steve (That isn't the name of a wrestler or a clown. That's the name of a well known homeless guy who shits in flower pots.) the guys on stilts, and the Freak, who really needed a second mask under the first one.

What's amazing is I mentioned TNA's top 20 mistakes and forgot to mention Russo.
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I'll be honest, I did read this the other day, which allowed me to say that Dixie wasn't in the top 20. Maybe not even the top 30.
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Here's some stuff to consider:

Backstage segments where camera men are peeking through cracks in the door / hiding behind some crates / under somebody's desk
Hulk Hogan's WWE HOF ring has magical powers
Feast or fired
Reverse battle royale
Putting Don West on commentary
Taking Don West off commentary
Depushing MCMG and removing them from TV in response to them getting over
The X-Division is now about weight limits!
Samoa Joe kidnapped by Ninjas!
Samoa Joe now carries a machete to the ring!
Samoa Joe turns heel so Kurt Angle can win the world title instead after Joe has pretty much just won the title in a ladder match because there must be some reason why he would do that right?!
Samoa Joe!
Abyss MURDERS Rob Van Dam off camera with a baseball bat full of nails > world title is made vacant due to RVD dying > RVD is back and wrestling undercard on the PPV where a new champion for the vacant title will be crowned!
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The Neilson Corporation offered to buy TNA from Panda Energy in May 2005 for ten million dollars. Morphoplex (a major TNA sponsor) offered Panda Energy twice that amount later that month. Panda Energy passed on both offers.
This one is one that pissed me off when I read it. #SellTNADixieplease
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How did Joe "job" to Angle? Because he lost? They didn't make Joe a top star? Didn't he win every belt in the company and was still in some way a major part of the TV show from his debut, up until his departure?
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How did Joe "job" to Angle? Because he lost? They didn't make Joe a top star? Didn't he win every belt in the company and was still in some way a major part of the TV show from his debut, up until his departure?
You get the fuck out of here with your logic. Somebody loses a match, they have been jobbed into oblivion.
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My issue is, you bring in a guy who used to work for the competition, and he more or less immediately beats the undefeated beast. If they set it up for 6 months down the road, and have it over the title, sure. But right off the bat it says "We are inferior to WWE."
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To be fair angle was the top guy in the wwe so that's not that bad for him to show up and win.

Not to mention he was then the guy they built around for years.
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Most of it boils down to two general faults; fumbling how talent is handled and spending too much effort chasing WWE and expecting to be overnignt direct competition. And all of this done with the attitude of "THIS IS HOW EVERYTHING WILL BE FROM NOW ON- oh, disregard that, we suck cocks!"

Samoa Joe has been pointed out multiple times in this thread, but what about all the other blown talent builds that include, but are not limited to:

Tomko
Matt Morgan
Abyss
Hernandez
Little Petey Pump
Motor City Machine Guns
Or the entire Knockouts Division?

All presented at some point as bravo foxtrot deltas, but then derailed, often suddenly, without explanation, or backup plan.

AJ Styles, their boy from jump street, the company's mascot, the man who was to TNA what Sting was to WCW, or Shane Douglas was to ECW, or the Hogan of 80s WWF, was continually devalued then slowly built back just to have his nuts cut off again. He goes from being "the man", to Christian's lackey (while awesome for Christian, I must say as part of the Peepulation), to his own man, to Ric Flair's bitch, to trailer trash tweener... it was too much dynamic shifting. Could you imagine if WWE did that shit to Cena? SuperCena is boring and predictable, but it also has worked consistently. Imagine if after his rise in that feud with JBL, he spent about two months on top, then started jobbing to Hornswoggle, then was expected to headline a PPV as a credible champ again, then made to literally become Hulk Hogan v2 by having Hogan himself come in and bestow upon him the Red and Yellow and feather boa and glasses and have Hollywood escort him to the ring, then he splits away and starts actimg like Raven, then, at the end, he goes back to exactly where his character was at the end of the JBL feud as if notning ever happened?

I had examples to my second point, but I don't have time to write them now. I have shit to do.

See? Just like TNA!
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I'll keep saying it forever their Knockouts division was truly something to behold and they promoted it that way for a time. How in the hell they fucked that up I'll never know
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Rhyno's 1 week title run.
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Backstage segments where camera men are peeking through cracks in the door / hiding behind some crates / under somebody's desk
I think there are some moments where that is done for a good reason. (Filming a 'secret' convo)
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I'll keep saying it forever their Knockouts division was truly something to behold and they promoted it that way for a time. How in the hell they fucked that up I'll never know
They are building the Knockouts back up. They have been the best female wrestling for about 2 years. Solid matches on Impact that last longer than 1 minuit and a half. The cage, ladder, and last knockout standing matches are good as well and is something you don't see to often.
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Rhyno's 1 week title run.

I think there are some moments where that is done for a good reason. (Filming a 'secret' convo)
But it was every single backstage segment and it was just dumb as fuck.
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But it was every single backstage segment and it was just dumb as fuck.
Yeah, they did over use it.
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* Dropping the ball with Monty Brown. Dude had the potential to be one of TNA's first homegrown stars and lend them some identity.

* Hiring Vince Russo around the same time that they brought Kurt Angle in. Signing Kurt was probably one of TNA's first real big "wins." They had Christian Cage, but part of Christian's leaving WWE was to prove he could be a big star. Angle was already a big star. I understand their rush to do Joe vs. Angle, but years on and Angle is still one of their biggest stars. They probably should have knew where they stood better.

* Choosing to side with Bubba the Love Sponge over Awesome Kong. They lost her, and whilst they have her back now, the shine is off that relationship. For a while TNA were the company doing women's wrestling right, and the Hogan takeover marked a lot of changes, and the focus on the women being a legitimate drawing card was one of them.

* Some of the talent they brought in with Hogan (The Nasty Boys? Really?) and how some of them were used. Jeff Hardy was a no-brainer when it came to signing him, but they didn't really know a proper way to fit him in. The same went with Ken Anderson. A lot of the talent they were focusing on got somewhat lost in the shuffle at the time of Hogan's entry too. Desmond Wolfe, Homicide and Christopher Daniels spring to mind.
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I understand them rushing Joe and Angle since at the time people weren't sure of how many matches Angle had left in him.
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Yeah, true, that's what I meant -- but I guess things are always clearer in hindsight.
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How about lets start with the name TNA.
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They hotshotted champions too much,

Aries
Young
Sabin

I like all three guys well enough, but thats the shit that is a joke. No build, the "Payoff" is a SHOCKING WIN thats only shocking because there was no build. And a week later all they did was hurt themselves.
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Yea the name is dumb. I believe they should rejoin the NWA and change their name to the National Wrestling Association or Nonstop Wrestling Action.
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MICK FOLEY as champ
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Who was the guy that beat Bully Ray for the title than lost it right back to him?
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