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Old 11-03-2016, 01:01 AM   #361
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That's exactly the same sort of imagery that comes to my mind too.
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:06 AM   #362
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Holy shit. Did that actually make it on the show?
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:11 AM   #363
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Yes the same with StupidIdiotVille in the Road to Money in the Bank.
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:11 AM   #364
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Jericho saved that stupid joke by saying that he's from Winnipeg. No saving us from terrible this time.
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:17 AM   #365
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Seems like Roman was made to look like a fool with all the people dressed up as Team Jeri KO.
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Old 11-03-2016, 04:27 AM   #366
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Trying to imagine a writer sitting there and writing the line "you know, I was going to dress up for Halloween as a stupid idiot, but they were all out of Chris Jericho costumes" and thinking it is the best ever. Like imagining him being "super happy" with that line.....
Then forgetting how Foley would dress for the segment...
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Old 11-03-2016, 05:33 AM   #367
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So Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho are actually scripted. Interesting.
Yet the majority of the IWC gush over Owens and "his great promos".

We now find out that his material isn't even his own.
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:15 AM   #368
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Virtually everyone is scripted though, just some pull it off better than others.
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Old 11-03-2016, 07:38 AM   #369
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I got to be honest haven't watched any wrestling bedsides Hell in a Cell this past week. Something about the ppv just took all winds out of my sails in caring
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:26 AM   #370
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We now find out that his material isn't even his own.
He could still write his own part.
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:26 AM   #371
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Virtually everyone is scripted though, just some pull it off better than others.
Yeah, Jericho still amazing.....
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:35 AM   #372
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Yeah Jericho got over with his scripted lines..... unlike Christian.
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Old 11-03-2016, 01:16 PM   #373
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Yet the majority of the IWC gush over Owens and "his great promos".

We now find out that his material isn't even his own.
Could be like New Day or Enzo where they pretty much write their own stuff and hand it in for some editing and tweaking.

Think a script from a recent time The Rock was on RAW had just him, Cena, and Heyman with bullet points or improv allowed for their promos.
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:33 PM   #374
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Yet the majority of the IWC gush over Owens and "his great promos".

We now find out that his material isn't even his own.
Well, yeah. Credit to Owens and Jericho for making it sound like their own work, but they clearly just get more focus. The stuff they get is good compared to the stuff other guys are saddled with.
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Old 11-03-2016, 10:50 PM   #375
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Also, even though there is a written script, we do not know how much input the rasslers/certain rasslers get into actually writing that script in the first place.
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:24 AM   #376
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That's true. Seems like a waste of time for the writers to write down what those wrestlers are going to say if it's their promo though.
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That's true. Seems like a waste of time for the writers to write down what those wrestlers are going to say if it's their promo though.
I know CM Punk said that if the script was garbage he just told them to do a re-write to the point where Vince had to have a chat with him. I wonder how many of the guys there now care enough bar minor tweaks since Stone Cold and others have said that guys are afraid to speak up these days.

Ambrose said that he's never been happy with a promo he's done on the WWE main roster because the scripts suck, but he clearly does them anyway. I will say that he either has more freedom since the brand split or just better writers.
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The problem with having all these writers, is that even if they have genuinely good ideas once in a blue moon, there are competing visions. Wrestling works best when there is some golden ideal that everything is building towards. Person A suggests that they run Kevin Owens vs. Brock Lesnar, for example, then Person B says "Yeah, but with Owens as the babyface," then person C says "Well, we need to get the title onto Brock," then person D says "Owens should drop it to Rollins then onto Brock," and suddenly this idea of two very different professional wrestlers that haven't lost finally clashing is completely out the window. It's not the same idea as the one Person A had.

And if you've got no long-term vision, and if you're not trying to have that vision because you are writing for what Vince wants to see week-to-week, how are you going to script the "characters" to have any vision? How are wrestlers, even if given freedom, supposed to sell their vision as performers to crowds without seeming like idiots when it all goes down the gurgler the next week?

It's a fundamental and philosophical problem the WWE has.
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The problem with having all these writers, is that even if they have genuinely good ideas once in a blue moon, there are competing visions. Wrestling works best when there is some golden ideal that everything is building towards. Person A suggests that they run Kevin Owens vs. Brock Lesnar, for example, then Person B says "Yeah, but with Owens as the babyface," then person C says "Well, we need to get the title onto Brock," then person D says "Owens should drop it to Rollins then onto Brock," and suddenly this idea of two very different professional wrestlers that haven't lost finally clashing is completely out the window. It's not the same idea as the one Person A had.

And if you've got no long-term vision, and if you're not trying to have that vision because you are writing for what Vince wants to see week-to-week, how are you going to script the "characters" to have any vision? How are wrestlers, even if given freedom, supposed to sell their vision as performers to crowds without seeming like idiots when it all goes down the gurgler the next week?

It's a fundamental and philosophical problem the WWE has.
fortunately the WWE has one guy setting the vision and making final calls in everything. I don't know if you have heard of him Noid, but his name is Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
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