02-03-2010, 10:24 AM | #201 | |
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no, Hurley can see dead people. Jacob was dead. No one else could see him. I'm pretty sure that was Jacob. |
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02-03-2010, 10:34 AM | #202 |
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Yeah that's what I figured at first, but being LOST, didn't think it could be that simple.
Crazy how it really is all a big chess game. The two kings can't kill the other, thus evil Jacob using Ben to do the deed. Everyone is a pawn. Also really liked them highlighting the theme of coercion vs. free will (evil Jacob didn't force Ben to do anything, but was it still Ben's free will?) |
02-03-2010, 11:10 AM | #203 |
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Guys
You keep mentioning the bomb going off. I dont think it did. They flashed right then and instead. This lead to the hatch still being built and really nothing stopping, as well as them still crashing. Nothing was changed. Everything happened as it should for them, and htey just returned to their time. I think the alternate reality is jus that, but not a direct result of that exact realities plane not crashing. Its like a red herring. This explains why Shannon wasnt on the plane, why Locke went on his walkabout, why Desmond was on the plane and why Hurley calls himself the luckiest man alive (No curse) Two Unrelated timelines Crash - Time Travel - Return as we have seen. Everyone has a different life and lands fine in LA. Their lives before and after the crash are different. Im calling that as the major twist. |
02-03-2010, 12:40 PM | #204 |
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Another reason the events werent prevented...The coffin is missing...in the 1st reality it was on the plane, so even if they didnt crash it would be on there. Plus the island was under water...we will see.
OR Better yet Whatever happens this season will create the alternate timeline where the island is under water. So the real cause of the alternate reality is yet to happen, so it will be a twist since we think it was because of the bomb. Maybe the story will truly end with that as the result. |
02-03-2010, 12:45 PM | #205 |
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The ideas are flowing.
JAcob touched each of the losties as some point. The note said Sayid "cannot die". I think that means that they have to protect each lostie from death. Why? While jacob was killed by Ben, he imprinted himself on all the losties. As long as they all live, so does he. He is not truly gone, and the war is not over. I love this show, it just makes you think of your own crazy ideas. |
02-03-2010, 01:24 PM | #206 |
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More to support my idea that the event that changes realities happens later:
Maybe the end this war of Jacob and the man in black, thus the island sinks as it has no use since the "game" is over. Then no Dharma, no hatch, no numbers, Desmond doesnt crash there, so that explains why he is on the plane. Ill stop spamming now |
02-03-2010, 02:24 PM | #207 | |
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02-03-2010, 02:56 PM | #208 |
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Not true. They were building the hatch. Remember, when Hurley arrived with Miles to the site BEFORE the incident, they watched the door with the numbers be chiseled and put into place.
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02-03-2010, 02:58 PM | #209 |
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Dunno. Maybe the bomb went off at the same time simultaneously with a time flash and this created an alternate reality in which Oceanic 815 never crashes, yet leaves the "original" characters in the "original" timeline.
Also, too early to tell because there's no evidence, but maybe "Sayid" is now Jacob, sorta like how "Locke" is the Man in Black. |
02-03-2010, 02:58 PM | #210 |
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Radinzski and Cheng often call it the "Swan"
Plus this Construction of the Swan began sometime before July of 1977 and Radzinsky was seen with full blueprints of the station and a survey map when he was stationed at the Flame that same year. Radzinsky's goal was to manipulate electromagnetism through experiments at the station, believing the results would fundamentally change the world. According to Pierre Chang, the Swan project was "confidential" as the station was located inside Hostile territory. The station's existence needed to be kept secret per the stipulations of The Truce forbidding deep drilling. During the construction of the station, one worker was killed when one of his dental fillings was pulled through his forehead by a huge electromagnetic force. Another worker at the construction site was seen hammering the Numbers into the station's hatch, although their significance is unknown. ("Some Like It Hoth") ("Namaste") ("The Incident, Parts 1 & 2") When Daniel Faraday returned to the Island in 1977, he immediately warned Pierre Chang that continued drilling would lead to a release of a highly unstable energy, causing the Incident. ("The Variable") |
02-03-2010, 03:00 PM | #211 |
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The woman that identified Jack and Co when they arrived in the temple as people from Flight 815 is the flight attendant right? The one that gives Jack the rest of the bottle of liquor and then gets him to help when Charlie is almost dead in the lavatory.
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02-03-2010, 03:02 PM | #212 |
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The Stewardess was in an episode of season 3 in the Other's work camp on the Smaller Island, and told Jack that they were here to watch. So, I don't think the Temple people are anti-others.
Ben wanted Alex, Danielle and Carl to make it to that temple before being gunned down by Keamy's merks. |
02-03-2010, 03:50 PM | #213 |
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At the same time though, Richard doesn't know where the flare came from or why it was fire, which indicates to me they're a separate group
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02-03-2010, 04:23 PM | #214 |
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Who says he doesnt know? He sees it and gets shaken and turns around into Fake Locke. I think he knew what it meant, and it scared him.
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02-03-2010, 04:32 PM | #215 |
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Suppose you're probably right, the more I think about it.
Just seems odd to me that they've never been addressed until now. What do you guys think about the cabin? Is that evil-Jacob's lair? Or is it the one place evil Jacob can't access (due to all the ash, which we've seen repels the smoke monster to some extent) And is it safe to say that Christian Shepard is evil-Jacob? Considering he was the one who convinced Locke that he'd have to die to bring everyone back. |
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02-03-2010, 04:50 PM | #217 |
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02-03-2010, 05:10 PM | #218 |
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Fuck sake, I just spoiled this for myself. I just downloaded Episode 1 and didnt know there was an episode 2, so I was in here thinking what the fuck are these guys talking about. Have to stay out of here until I watch Episode 2.
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02-03-2010, 07:42 PM | #219 |
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Downloading the episodes as I type, I have 19 mins for it to finish, I can put it on my thumb drive and watch it at work, will it finish before I have to go?
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02-03-2010, 07:43 PM | #220 |
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saieed wakes up
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02-03-2010, 07:44 PM | #221 |
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02-03-2010, 07:53 PM | #222 |
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My fuck kid, I will beat you to within an inch of your life if we ever meet.
Also, its Sayid you asshole. |
02-03-2010, 07:57 PM | #223 |
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and no, no you wont
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02-03-2010, 07:59 PM | #224 |
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Just because your an MMA fighter doesnt mean I wont put a pounding on you kid, I am basically the essence and build of legendary boxer, Butterbean, through and through.
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02-03-2010, 08:05 PM | #225 |
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theres a hollow wooden cross with a note inside the guitar case and sawyer buries juliette
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02-03-2010, 08:06 PM | #226 |
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It finished, if that was a spoiler I will kill you Reavent because you are a cunt.
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02-03-2010, 08:06 PM | #227 |
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Can't say I didn't see that coming as soon as Fallen Angel said he was downloading episode two. Let us all learn from his terrible error.
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02-03-2010, 08:08 PM | #228 |
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anything i can do to help
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02-03-2010, 08:08 PM | #229 |
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kate gets away
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02-03-2010, 08:08 PM | #230 |
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I have clicked on this thread, and ran the scroller straight to the very bottom so I cannot see any of this stuff. I just wanted to let you all know it's killing me not being able to discuss this.
As member of the GAY UK, we don't get LOST till Friday at 9pm, and I am actually 'staying in on Friday night' to watch it. I know I could d/l it in HD right now, but I got a thing about watching it on my big screen TV on the couch. I am very jealous, and look forward to taking part. |
02-03-2010, 08:34 PM | #231 |
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Probably going to watch it again right now
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02-03-2010, 08:41 PM | #232 |
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Kates a man
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02-04-2010, 12:00 AM | #233 |
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lol
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02-04-2010, 01:08 AM | #234 |
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I put Reacunt on ignore after the first spoiler Im not that stupid. Also I am happy to say I called Locke being the smoke monster a long time ago.
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02-04-2010, 01:14 AM | #235 |
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02-04-2010, 01:20 AM | #236 |
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Just took him off ignore and I see he is as much of a cunt as I thought. Still love you but god you are a cunt.
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02-04-2010, 01:26 AM | #237 |
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02-04-2010, 07:47 AM | #239 |
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I feel bad for you guys.
4 days til the next new episode though |
02-04-2010, 08:30 AM | #240 |
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4 Days? What you talkin bout hermy?
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