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Old 02-09-2013, 01:30 PM   #40721
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The Mountie(s) gimmick was better than the Rougeaus' "All-American Boys".

Although Pirate Carl Ouellette was better than Mountie Ouellette.
All American Boys was awesome too.
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:54 PM   #40722
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In response to James Steele and CSL's reply to letting Chikara guys job on Saturday Morning Slam, I present to you...



Would they REALLY be out of place on a 30 minute Kid's show?
yes. That's pretty standard "wrestling comedy", you can see those spots in a lot of comedy matches all over the world, especially the criss-cross and airplane spin spots. Invisible hand grenades that make everybody move in slow motion until they "explode" (after which they all sell the explosion) a guy that can be paused by pressing the start "button" on his shorts, hypnosis and a big green dragon that attacks guys with his tail aren't really the same thing.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:02 PM   #40723
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:18 PM   #40724
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yes. That's pretty standard "wrestling comedy", you can see those spots in a lot of comedy matches all over the world, especially the criss-cross and airplane spin spots. Invisible hand grenades that make everybody move in slow motion until they "explode" (after which they all sell the explosion) a guy that can be paused by pressing the start "button" on his shorts, hypnosis and a big green dragon that attacks guys with his tail aren't really the same thing.
I wasn't saying SMS needed invisible grenades, start "button" pauses, or big green dragons. It doesn't even need time traveling knights who will go back in time and grab a younger version of themselves to team with. More than that, the little bit of Dragon Dragon I watched was awful. I mean, I don't see a problem if the guys decide at one point they want to wrestle in slow motion.

How is hypnosis any different than controlling a guy with an urn or any other magical object?
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:35 PM   #40725
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because it's not 1995 anymore
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:55 PM   #40726
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also, HOW DARE YOU INSULT DRAGON DRAGON

his head fell off in the name of entertaining you
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:56 PM   #40727
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lol what?

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Old 02-09-2013, 03:46 PM   #40728
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What? That's standard date talk for me.
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Old 02-09-2013, 04:23 PM   #40729
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because it's not 1995 anymore
Again, who is the audience of Saturday Morning Slam? Do you think they would CARE about how ridiculous hypnosis would be in that sense? Hell, Hypnosis used to be a staple episode of virtually EVERY Saturday morning kids show.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:19 PM   #40730
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:00 PM   #40731
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Again, who is the audience of Saturday Morning Slam? Do you think they would CARE about how ridiculous hypnosis would be in that sense? Hell, Hypnosis used to be a staple episode of virtually EVERY Saturday morning kids show.
no. They also wouldn't care if they bought out Barney the dinosaur and had him go over Big Show but that's not going to happen either
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no. They also wouldn't care if they bought out Barney the dinosaur and had him go over Big Show but that's not going to happen either
I dunno, it could happen if Barney wanted too.

He already seems to be good friends with Orton and you know what they say about friends in high places.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:10 PM   #40733
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I vaguely remember Alex Riley doing the Chuck Taylor grenade routine a couple of times before he was removed from TV, obviously with all the good parts of the spot missing so it was really just a 20 second standing elbow drop.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:50 PM   #40734
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:53 PM   #40735
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I dunno, it could happen if Barney wanted too.

He already seems to be good friends with Orton and you know what they say about friends in high places.
can't wait to see what Meltzer would have to say about Barney's politicking
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:39 PM   #40736
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:10 PM   #40737
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:39 PM   #40739
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yes. That's pretty standard "wrestling comedy", you can see those spots in a lot of comedy matches all over the world, especially the criss-cross and airplane spin spots. Invisible hand grenades that make everybody move in slow motion until they "explode" (after which they all sell the explosion) a guy that can be paused by pressing the start "button" on his shorts, hypnosis and a big green dragon that attacks guys with his tail aren't really the same thing.
I fail to see how this is much different than a sentient sock puppet who delivers a finisher taught to the wearer by Jon Lovitz.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:46 PM   #40740
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I dunno, it could happen if Barney wanted too.

He already seems to be good friends with Orton and you know what they say about friends in high places.
Orrin vs Barney. Barney needs to get an rko and let's have it not be on SMS so we can actually see it on tv.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:56 PM   #40741
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I fail to see how this is much different than a sentient sock puppet who delivers a finisher taught to the wearer by Jon Lovitz.
if they'd given the Cobra to Steve Blackman years ago and put it over as a "paralyzing nerve strike", people would have bought into it (Umaga hitting guys with his thumb anyone?) if Steve Blackman came out and threw an invisible hand grenade at Meat and pinned him, they'd have shit on it quicker than Randy Orton around some bird's bag. Yeah the Cobra is a big dumb comedy schtick but it still allows you to suspend your disbelief. The same can't be said about one guy giving another an atomic drop that knocks 6 guys and a referee over because he had an invisible grenade down the back of his shorts.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:24 AM   #40742
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The PowerPlex was an awesome tag team finisher. Someone bring it back.
Too bad it was done by Herc and Jerk.
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CSL, you seem to be taking this invisible grenade business very personally. What happened?
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if they'd given the Cobra to Steve Blackman years ago and put it over as a "paralyzing nerve strike", people would have bought into it (Umaga hitting guys with his thumb anyone?) if Steve Blackman came out and threw an invisible hand grenade at Meat and pinned him, they'd have shit on it quicker than Randy Orton around some bird's bag. Yeah the Cobra is a big dumb comedy schtick but it still allows you to suspend your disbelief. The same can't be said about one guy giving another an atomic drop that knocks 6 guys and a referee over because he had an invisible grenade down the back of his shorts.
Still a pretty huge suspension, You can argue that "one is dumber than the other", but they're both pretty fucking dumb in the realm of guys who are supposed to be "fighting eachother for realz". It doesn't make one inherently "better" than the other.

Just saying, you can't quite put WWE on a pedistal as things like the hand grenade spot being beneath them. If we can be asked to believe Papa Shango made Ultimate Warrior bleed by magic, Vince McMahon blew up in a limo and walk around 100% unscathed the next week, a leprechaun has lived in a magical void under the ring, and Mae Young and Mark Henry's hand-baby grew up to be a full grown... Thing, we can believe a pause button on somone's pants makes them stand still. It just becomes easier to pick on because its in the lowly indies.

Hell, one of my favorite spots of all time is really fuckinig dumb, and it was done by none other than Ric Flair. 10 head bounces into the turnbuckle by his opponent while the audience counts, Flair keeps going, unassisted (as in, his opponent, usually Sting, is no longer touching him) for like 5 more bounces, then turns around, staggers to the middle of the ring, and Flair Flops.

You can't be so serious about this.
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Still a pretty huge suspension, You can argue that "one is dumber than the other", but they're both pretty fucking dumb in the realm of guys who are supposed to be "fighting eachother for realz". It doesn't make one inherently "better" than the other.

Just saying, you can't quite put WWE on a pedistal as things like the hand grenade spot being beneath them. If we can be asked to believe Papa Shango made Ultimate Warrior bleed by magic, Vince McMahon blew up in a limo and walk around 100% unscathed the next week, a leprechaun has lived in a magical void under the ring, and Mae Young and Mark Henry's hand-baby grew up to be a full grown... Thing, we can believe a pause button on somone's pants makes them stand still. It just becomes easier to pick on because its in the lowly indies.

Hell, one of my favorite spots of all time is really fuckinig dumb, and it was done by none other than Ric Flair. 10 head bounces into the turnbuckle by his opponent while the audience counts, Flair keeps going, unassisted (as in, his opponent, usually Sting, is no longer touching him) for like 5 more bounces, then turns around, staggers to the middle of the ring, and Flair Flops.

You can't be so serious about this.
have you read anything I've written or replied to, especially on the last page or even anything I've ever posted? Did you see my super serious post on the last page about Dragon Dragon's head falling off? I'm replying to posts here about why I don't think you'll ever see it on TV. I love the hand grenade spot, I love most of the daft comedy Chikara do. You can find a bunch of posts from the past saying the same thing. You've managed to create and then reply to your own mythical argument.
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some of Chikara is amazing (aka the comedy stuff) but it should be in no way anywhere near a WWE/TV audience. Which luckily, it isn't
Appears I didn't invent an argument after all.
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It's got to be.

It has all the main eventers on it. Cena, Triple H, Sheamus, Edge, Mysterio, Undertaker, Christian and JTG.

I don't know why that jobber Randy Orton is there though.
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Appears I didn't invent an argument after all.
lol you've picked out a post where I state that I don't think WWE should or would use it. Which I also mentioned in my reply. Which was the basis for my other replies. Which also isn't the point you were trying to counter in your lengthy post up there. How aren't you getting this? Bit ridiculous buddy.
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No, the point I was trying to make is that it's all a ridiculous suspension of belief... Chikira comedy is no "lower" than that of WWE, who has asked us to believe a grown midget, who is supposedly Vince McMahon's illegitmate son, gained the ability to talk by making a wish to Santa.

You said the grenade-in-shorts spot doesn't equate to Jon Lovitz' Cobra. I'm saying it takes the same suspension of belief to believe one works as it would the other.
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No, the point I was trying to make is that it's all a ridiculous suspension of belief... Chikira comedy is no "lower" than that of WWE, who has asked us to believe a grown midget, who is supposedly Vince McMahon's illegitmate son, gained the ability to talk by making a wish to Santa.

You said the grenade-in-shorts spot doesn't equate to Jon Lovitz' Cobra. I'm saying it takes the same suspension of belief to believe one works as it would the other.
Vastardikai said the same thing. And I'm saying I think it's a bit different. So we'd already established there's a difference of opinion. You thought I was "picking on the lowly indies". Which wasn't the case at all and you probably realized that as soon as you went back and looked. Let it go sweetheart.

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