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Old 10-18-2014, 08:15 PM   #721
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sounds like theyre making the gotham pilot in movie form
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Old 10-19-2014, 01:50 AM   #722
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This also kinda sorta establishes that there's a Nightwing and Red Robin somewhere out in that universe.
Explain to me how this is.
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Old 10-19-2014, 02:38 AM   #723
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I don't know how Zack and the boys are world building this cinematic universe but I don't think they'll leave her as a 'first' Robin. Dick has to be out there as Nightwing. Tim is a coin flip, but hell yeah Dick is out there.
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Oh, Kalyx, never change your wildly jumping to conclusions and presenting them as fact ways.
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Old 10-19-2014, 07:11 PM   #725
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:16 AM   #726
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Nightwing is probably out there if we're all the way at Carrie Kelley. Red Hood, too.

I kind of like the idea, to be honest. It really opens things up for a future Batman movie with him being so "established" and his history more developed. Some of my favorite Batman moments come from Justice League and the later Batman: TAS season (with Dick Grayson grown up and moved on). I'd love a scene where Nightwing and Batman are arguing with each other as they fight crime together, some kind of bad blood still existing between them, and Carrie Kelley not understanding what happened.

There was always that underlying theme in the later Batman series about how Batman only cared about the mission and never cared about the personal lives of his assistants. I really liked that aspect of the character.
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:41 PM   #727
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I think it's cool for the Batman franchise, so they can have the entire Bat-Family at their disposal without having to trudge through origin stories for every one of them.

On the other hand, I think it's stupid to have a grizzled old Batman who's been a superhero for years and years in a setting where every other superhero is brand new. It ruins the whole idea that the Justice League is supposed to be a group of equals, first off, and secondly, it makes all that talk that Pa Kent said in Man of Steel about how Clark is "going to change everything" a load of shit, since Batman was already doing that years before.

But whatever. Snyder's gotta have his Dark Knight Returns memorabilia, so to hell with the continuity that he himself set up one movie ago.
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:21 PM   #728
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I don't think they'll leave her as a 'first' Robin. Dick has to be out there as Nightwing. Tim is a coin flip, but hell yeah Dick is out there.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:28 PM   #729
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I can only say I believe Kelly being the only Robin in Batman's apparently established career is not going to be the case. If this version of Batman is akin to the comic version where he would take a partner, it's just obvious to me Nightwing or at least a past Robin has been around. This new DC cinematic universe seems much more open about what they have in the books and ignoring Dick Grayson's tenure doesn't line up with the rest of their consistent world building.

That's not to say they won't have Kelly as the only Robin, they've done big remixes like that before, but in this case I think Grayson certainly exists in this universe. You can see it as me flying off the handle (as I've done in these comic threads) but I think I've been more accurate than otherwise. Only answer I got.
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It ruins the whole idea that the Justice League is supposed to be a group of equals, first off, and secondly, it makes all that talk that Pa Kent said in Man of Steel about how Clark is "going to change everything" a load of shit, since Batman was already doing that years before.

But whatever. Snyder's gotta have his Dark Knight Returns memorabilia, so to hell with the continuity that he himself set up one movie ago.
I don't think so. There's really no way Pa Kent would/could have known about Batman. He's likely still an urban legend at this point in Gotham much less outside of it and even the ones that may have seen him and mentioned him online are basically the equivalent to us and Slender man or Bigfoot and Jonathan did not look like the most internet trend savvy person in the world. Other than that you have the king of Atlantis and a bunch of Amazons that no one has ever knowingly seen, which are also going to be regarded as storybook characters. Cyborg hasn't happened yet and likely neither have Flash or GL. Green Arrow, if he's even a part of the JL in this universe, is still on the island likely. So as far as anyone in Kansas/Metropolis/Krypton knows Clark is the first and will change the world.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:13 PM   #731
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:14 PM   #732
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:12 PM   #733
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I saw filming outside of the Aragon Theater in Chicago. There was a bunch of mask of zorro posters hanging up. Seeing as they are going with the dark knight returns angle here, Im guessing that they are filming the death of bruce waynes parents in that scene seeing as it is the mask of zorro.
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Old 11-14-2014, 05:24 PM   #734
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Oh good. The one thing that has never been covered in any Batman film or tv program ever, the death of Bruce Wayne's parents. I'm really curious to see how this finally plays out since we've never seen it before.
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In a twist, the Waynes stand up after Bruce is taken away by the cops and are like "Finally, we ditched that kid.... let's go spend our money living extravagantly overseas...."
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At the risk of sounding like a knob is there anyone who needs to know Batman's origin at this point? Other than establishing pathos I can't see what going back over this will accomplish.
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Literally as recent as Gotham's first episode two months ago. Unless they have some direction Burton, Timm, Nolan, and whoever filmed that Gotham scene didn't do. Kinda doubt it.
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At the risk of sounding like a knob is there anyone who needs to know Batman's origin at this point? Other than establishing pathos I can't see what going back over this will accomplish.
The only reason I can see this needing to exist is for children beyond that they could cut it from the film.
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Old 03-25-2015, 10:02 PM   #748
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Fans have already 'shopped the photo in color, complete with an orange jumpsuit. Think it's a pretty fair assumption.
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Old 04-02-2015, 08:03 PM   #749
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Collider and I believe Variety have confirmed a BvS trailer will be attached to Mad Max.
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:55 AM   #750
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:58 AM   #751
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Affleck's Batman voice is fucking legit.
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:00 AM   #752
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Yeah, that was my initial reaction too...like, arguably the best Batvoice we've heard, next to Keaton.

I should clarify...in movies. Kevin Conroy is still king of kings.
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Old 04-17-2015, 02:02 AM   #753
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Old 04-17-2015, 05:15 AM   #754
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Didn't get me all that excited to be honest. I enjoyed Man of Steel, but with the next Avengers, Star Wars and Ant Man coming out, this film just doesn't really interest me. Especially since we still have to wait another year for its release.
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I will confess to liking Affleck though, so I'm interested to see him as Batman.
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I like the concept if they keep that tone the entire film, where people both worship and fear Supes as a god...curious if he starts to actually act like one.

We'll watch it, though yes, not as hyped as I am for Avengers, or Civil War for that matter.
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is Amy Jo Johnson in this one?
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Just looks the same as everything DC-related these days.
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