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Old 06-26-2007, 07:13 PM   #1041
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In an interview with ESPN.com on Tuesday, Ballard indicated that the boy had needle marks in his arms. The district attorney said he believed that the boy had been given growth hormones for some time because the family considered him undersized.
That was only one of the strange facts that Ballard revealed. He said that two text messages of note caused authorities to investigate the house. In one, Benoit told somebody he knew that his wife and son were sick.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:14 PM   #1042
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District Attorney Scott Ballard was interview on CNN Headline news by Erica Hill. Here are the highlights:

- Once again, Ballard said Nancy Benoit was killed sometime on Friday, Daniel on Saturday morning, and Benoit killed himself Saturday night.

- According to the medical examiner, Nancy was found with bruise marks on her back which is consistent with a knee being placed on her back, bruising on the front of her body suggesting she had been pressed against the floor, and her neck indicated she had been strangled.

- There is no indication Daniel tried to make contact with anyone after his mother had been killed.

- There were needle marks in Daniel’s arm, suggesting he was taking growth hormones for quite sometime.

- Ballard suggested that Benoit may have killed his son with a chokehold.

- Text messages from Benoit indicated that Nancy and Daniel were sick (probably sent when Nancy and Daniel had already been killed), and one messaged indicated that the pets needed to be let out.

- Dr. Alan Lipman, also interviewed by CNN, suggested that in the past, Benoit was breaking up the furniture in the home and threatening Nancy.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:14 PM   #1043
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After seeing that Text Message this is what I would like to believe....

Benoit hired someone to kill his wife....things got out of hand and the guy had to kill his child...Beniot comes home and discovers what happened...cant live with it....Kills himself...

Sadly I doubt that any of that works with what happened and I really havnt accepted the other scenario yet....im afraid to accept it
I don't see how you could garner that from the message, considering it was sent to someone at WWE.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:20 PM   #1044
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I don't see how you could garner that from the message, considering it was sent to someone at WWE.
My bad...didnt know it wasn sent to someone at WWE....or maybe he sent it to the wrong person first and then resent it to someone else...I dont know...

Maybe its just me not wanting to accept the inevitable....
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:21 PM   #1045
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Benoit was giving his 7 year old kid growth hormones. wtf.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:26 PM   #1046
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That's not TERRIBLY uncommon, Sammy. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with it, but it's not exactly ridiculous.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:26 PM   #1047
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This make absolutely no sense to me

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1Wrestling.com has learned through several sources that one of the text messages sent by Chris Benoit early Sunday morning said "back door open, dogs have been fed".

This message, along with others received over the weekend, caused WWE officials to alert authorities and to ask them to go to the Benoit residence to investigate.
Going by this it was sent sunday morning,now going with the logic he was about to kill himself he sends another few texts to whoever and they dont get them till sunday evening,when they would have got all the texts right after each other which depending on what was written would have sent alarm bells ringing.you have to ask yourself why the hell did it take over twelve hours for the police to show up at his home.

I know i seem to be fixating on this point but seriously does it not appear to be very strange
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:27 PM   #1048
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Im willing to bet that ECW tonight gets the highest ratings its ever had....and that they mention Nancy and Daniel....but not Chris
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I really wish this weren't happening.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:28 PM   #1050
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I know i seem to be fixating on this point but seriously does it not appear to be very strange
What news in the past 24 hours about this hasnt seemed very strange and fucked up?

I do agree with you though that some things just seem weird...
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:38 PM   #1051
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What the Hell went on in the Benoit household?!?
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:39 PM   #1052
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:40 PM   #1053
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... Fuck just fuck but atleast we can all say they have impacted our lives (good or bad) in one way or another, i mean whenever i hear someone say "lie, cheat & steal" it makes me smile. i'm going to miss both of them, but i'm glad to say when i was young i got to see both wrestle.





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Old 06-26-2007, 07:42 PM   #1054
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Maybe he was just letting them know he fed the dogs already, so they when they came to find the bodies they wouldn't have to worry about taking care of the dogs immediately.




But seriously, I wish we could get some sort of reasoning and information as to why this happened and what exactly happened.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:43 PM   #1055
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I still can't believe this.

My mind won't let me accept Benoit has done this, I can't lose respect for him, I really don't know why. People are saying to me 'Benoit is an asshole, a scumbag' etc and for some reason it's annoying me and I find myself defending him, saying 'If he has killed them it was because he'd snapped or something, there's an explanation' :S. But the truth is if it wasn't a wrestler, and was just say some random actor in the same scenario, no way would I defend the actor.

Please let there be another explanation, I don't want to have to accept this.
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I no longer wanna know "what exactly happened". This story went from tragedy to TV-Movie in 24 hours.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:47 PM   #1057
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I am still unbelievably disgusted by Benoit's actions, and I hope they don't pay tribute to that piece of shit anymore. I love the approach that WWE is taking with him right now. I woulda been really sad if he had just killed himself because of all the problems or stress he was facing, but to take his family with him is another thing. Rot in hell Benoit.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:50 PM   #1058
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I just read that McMahon will be on ECW tonight to personally apologize for the 3 hour tribute show to Benoit....apparently many people have complained that last nights show was to glorify a killer
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Hopefully the wrestlers get the oppurtunity to voice their true feelings in light of these revelations.

SammyG, you are correct across the board
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many people have complained that last nights show was to glorify a killer
But last night the information wasn't available?
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It just doesn't make sense.

Why?
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:01 PM   #1062
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I just read that McMahon will be on ECW tonight to personally apologize for the 3 hour tribute show to Benoit....apparently many people have complained that last nights show was to glorify a killer
Quite interesting but at the same token that they did a tribute last night yet were privvy to more information than most regarding this tragedy.
Also i think the wwe family will have a very hollow ring to it if it is used again.
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But last night the information wasn't available?
That's what I'm sayin.

Super sayin, infact.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:06 PM   #1064
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But last night the information wasn't available?
As the show was going off the air and after the show...it was being mentioned...it wasnt for certain but that was the main speculation being done by all media outlets...

Just turned out that what the outlets thought happened ended up being true. Some fans now believe that Vince was trying to glorify a killer while other people now that he was unaware at the time and was just trying to pay respect to a man who was one of his top athletes
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[QUOTE=Jeritron]Hopefully the wrestlers get the oppurtunity to voice their true feelings in light of these revelations.

What that they failed their friend by not looking close enough at him becoming more withdrawn but putting it down to him being a quiet guy.
To the fact that some last night served up empty platitudes to appease their own guilt.
After all is said and done the wwe has to shoulder some of the responsibility regarding this tragedy.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:08 PM   #1066
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I just found out. Wow. I haven't watched wrestling for years, but...wow. I don't know what to think.
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What that they failed their friend by not looking close enough at him becoming more withdrawn but putting it down to him being a quiet guy.
To the fact that some last night served up empty platitudes to appease their own guilt.
After all is said and done the wwe has to shoulder some of the responsibility regarding this tragedy.
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" many people have complained that last nights show was to glorify a killer"

Anyone that said that is a fucking retard and I hope they die. Vince did the right thing at the time.
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Vince did the right thing at the time.
Exactly. As the show went on, they had more evidence, but nothing was official at that time. Hell, it wasn't officially announced until this afternoon.
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" many people have complained that last nights show was to glorify a killer"

Anyone that said that is a fucking retard and I hope they die. Vince did the right thing at the time.

I agree with ya...

There is no way that they knew at the time the show started that Benoit could of possibly done such a thing. I guess fans might be pissed that they didnt stop the show when it was revealed....but then again I think fans deserved the show. I know I was crying my eyes out the whole time.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:19 PM   #1071
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Yeah, if that was true why the fuck wasn't he told to get some help or something. An intervention or anything. Just completly fucked up.
Why didn't someone call someone on his behalf, even?

his actions are kind of in keeping with a paranoid schizophrenic, and if he'd been demonstrating paranoia a year ago, it could have been developing over a period of time. And it's not something anyone can see in themselves. The world goes crazy, not you. Whether you completely detatch or not, it makes sense to you. You kind of NEED someone to step in.

Which will never happen in wrestling.

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Old 06-26-2007, 08:22 PM   #1072
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This is pretty damn terrible. Benoit the person is, apparently, a monster. What he did is insane and horrifying, and I don't blame anybody here that never wants to see another one of his matches.

Nevertheless, he has always been one of my favorite in-ring talents, and I will always enjoy his matches.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:35 PM   #1073
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Mcmahon should clarify that they had no knowledge of what had happenned before Raw, I wouldn't apologize for the tribute show, they didn't know what had happenned exactly. But I'd show a little banner saying in memory of the Benoit family once on ECW, once on Smackdown, and then you move on. Rebuild everything. Start from scratch.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:38 PM   #1074
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This is pretty damn terrible. Benoit the person is, apparently, a monster. What he did is insane and horrifying, and I don't blame anybody here that never wants to see another one of his matches.

Nevertheless, he has always been one of my favorite in-ring talents, and I will always enjoy his matches.
I agree with you....

But now I sadly dont think I could ever watch another thing with Benoit in it....with out thinking about what happened..

The worst part of it for me is that people tend to look at wrestling ppvs and think of them as "I was there" moments....like...I was there when Benoit finally won the belt and was with Eddie in the ring....I was there when Flair won the Royal Rumble.....but for me its....I was there the night Benoit no showed Vengeance....

This has turned into what was a great ppv experience for me and has completely turned it the other way...
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:44 PM   #1075
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Like other's I haven't really been able to collect my thoughts on all this stuff, it's just too fucking much. I mean, it's so weird that I'm actually hoping Chris had a mental illness so it doesn't seem/feel as bad. What do you do when you (want to) start pitying someone you looked up to?
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:47 PM   #1076
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- According to the medical examiner, Nancy was found with bruise marks on her back which is consistent with a knee being placed on her back, bruising on the front of her body suggesting she had been pressed against the floor, and her neck indicated she had been strangled.

- Ballard suggested that Benoit may have killed his son with a chokehold.
Now reading those two comments,is ballard trying to imply that he killed his wife and son with wrestling moves.
And another thing that they failed to explain properly,was his wife bound before or after she died,because either way thats a strange one,because if it was when she was alive why flip her on her stomach to choke her,or if it was when she was dead why bind her hands and feet and wrap her in a towel.

Im not try to imply that he didnt do it but reading more press from the me and the da,more and more things dont add up,maybe its because they are only releasing certain information just now,but taking it as a whole it just doesnt make sense to the rational mind,maybe thats the problem.
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Everyone's thinkin it I'm just saying it:

The marks on his wife are marks a soft body sustains when put into a lethal variation of the Crippler Crossface.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:59 PM   #1078
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^ Wouldn't surprise me at all. It's already pretty obvious that the guy was a looney.
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Everyone's thinkin it I'm just saying it:

The marks on his wife are marks a soft body sustains when put into a lethal variation of the Crippler Crossface.
I wouldn't be surprised if Chris even did his own PPV promo.

"This Sunday, the entire Benoit Family will have NO...WAY...OUT! *throat slash gesture*"
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