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Old 06-26-2007, 09:22 PM   #1081
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As a guy with a girlfriend and a kid, this shocks me truly.

When XL first told me this morning i wasn't sure what to believe until i read it on british teletext.

He must have been in a messed up place to do this, to kill your own flesh and blood.

Just in shock
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:22 PM   #1082
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I've been hearing numerous reports on and off today. Can anyone summerize and new news that has popped up? I know autopsies have are being conducted today. And I heard from work pretty much the same scenario from TV today.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:24 PM   #1083
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:29 PM   #1084
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lol Miz. Also lol @ the idea of Benoit using the Crossface to murder his family. Think he was playing his theme song in the background?
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:34 PM   #1085
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lol Miz. Also lol @ the idea of Benoit using the Crossface to murder his family. Think he was playing his theme song in the background?
No, but I heard he was seen parading around the house hoisting a World Heavyweight Title replica belt up in the air.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:36 PM   #1086
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Damn, they even interviewed Bret Hart on MSNBC, and he was one of the others that said they had no idea Benoit would do something like this. Yet, the host of the show was just ripping WWE, even talking about them airing a tribute show last night.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:38 PM   #1087
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WWE.com has released the text messages/timeline:




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Written: June 26, 2007

On Saturday, June 23, Chris Benoit was slated to appear at a WWE live event in Beaumont, Texas. That afternoon, Benoit contacted WWE to inform them that his wife and child were ill, and that he would not be able to attend the show.
WWE executives rebooked Benoit’s flight for the following morning, allowing Benoit to miss the Beaumont event making alternate arrangements for him to attend the pay-per-view event in Houston on Sunday.
WWE employees attempted to confirm with Benoit his travel plans but were unable to contact him.
Early Sunday morning, between 3:51 and 3:58 a.m., Benoit sent five text messages to co-workers:

Text Message 1 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 2 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open”
Text Message 3 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:54am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”
Text Message 4 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:55am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"
Text Message 5 to one co-worker (sent 6/24 at 3:58am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Throughout the day on Sunday, WWE made numerous attempts to contact Benoit both at home and at local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11:00 p.m., WWE officials were unable to establish contact with Chris Benoit.
At 12:30 p.m. on Monday, June 25, WWE officials were notified of the text messages sent to the co-workers the previous day. By 12:45 p.m., WWE had contacted Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office requesting they check on the Benoit family.
Fayetteville County Sheriffs office made contact with WWE at approximately 4:00 p.m. advising that they had entered the house of Chris Benoit and found three deceased bodies – an adult male, adult female and a male child. WWE was told that Benoit’s home was now considered a major crime scene.
The decision to cancel the live event scheduled in Corpus Christi that night was made between 4:00 and 5:00 p.m. In keeping with company policy, and with limited knowledge regarding facts of the case, WWE choose to air a memorial dedicated to the career of Chris Benoit. As facts emerged surrounding the case, all tributes to Chris Benoit were removed both on-air and on WWE.com.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:43 PM   #1089
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This is so massively fucked up. I can't believe it.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:49 PM   #1090
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wow, those messages are eerie
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:50 PM   #1091
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Seriously fucked up.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:51 PM   #1092
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Okay so I was watching Court TV and how ironic is it that they were showing a case where this man suffocated his wife and young son to death.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:51 PM   #1093
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This is unreal man. I mean, Chris fucking Benoit. The head and shoulders biggest story in the history of professional wrestling.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:51 PM   #1094
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:53 PM   #1095
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Okay so I was watching Court TV and how ironic that they were showing a case where this man suffocated his wife and young son to death.
I was watching some old 24 earlier and a guy was strangling a girl and it was kind of weird seeing that.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:53 PM   #1096
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I just love the way everyone is now distancing themselves from the tragedy,the fault does not lie with just one man no matter how hard they try to make themselves believe it.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:54 PM   #1097
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:54 PM   #1098
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Benoit threw EVERYTHING away.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:55 PM   #1099
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Damn..WWE did the right thing though. But damn..Benoit went nuts..wonder why??
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:57 PM   #1100
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I wonder how much of an effect on the locker room this is going to have.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:57 PM   #1101
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I just wish he sought help if he was having marriage problems or whatever. Like Bret said he thinks anyone in the entire roster would have helped out Chris and supported him if he was depressed or upset about something
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:00 PM   #1102
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It has to be a devestating blow to the locker rooms morale. I bet many are heartbroken, but are also angry at what happened but it will take people a long time to get over.
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:48 PM   #1103
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Yknow what would have made this all better? If they found Benoit dead dressed in his old Pegasus Kid outfit, and they pulled him out of the house. Kinda like the scene on Airplane with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:02 AM   #1104
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A woman tells News 1130 in Vancouver, B.C. that Chris Benoit's son Daniel had a condition called Fragile X syndrome. Wikipedia describes the symptoms:

Aside from intellectual disability (mental retardation), prominent characteristics of the syndrome include an elongated face, large or protruding ears, flat feet, larger testicals in men (macroorchidism), and low muscle tone. Behavioral characteristics may include stereotypic movements (e.g., hand-flapping) and atypical social development, particularly shyness and limited eye contact. Some individuals with the fragile X syndrome also meet the diagnostic criteria for autism. While full mutation males tend to present with severe intellectual disability, the symptomology of full mutation females runs the gamut of minimally affected to severe intellectual disability, which may explain why females are underdiagnosed relative to males.

The woman interviewed for the News 1130 story says her family was in contact with the Benoits, but they didn't want to go public with the disease and chose to keep things low profile. She added that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. She said, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy --they don't tell you."



W.K. Analysis: This may explain why Daniel was taking growth hormone injections. It also may shed light onto why Chris didn't want someone else raising his son and made the fateful decision to kill him. As irrrational and twisted as it may sound, he may have felt he was saving his son from the double-blow of losing his parents through a murder-suicide and being subject to being raised by people who didn't understand or care for his condition.
That was sent to me. A link was in the midst of it, the commentary at the end i don't know where it came from, but that's interesting.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:13 AM   #1105
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Yeah that kid didnt look "normal" tbh
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:17 AM   #1106
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Sane men who work their ass off for 22 years to become successful in their dream job, have a long history of being a respectful employee/friend and a wonderful family man; who works on making a marriage work for 10 plus years of his life don't just throw all of that away without having a major mental breakdown or mental disease.

What he did is absolutely horrible, tragic and unfathomable. However, by all accounts, I don't believe Benoit was an evil, cold blooded human being. CLEARLY though, I think Chris must have become very mentally ill and incapable of making rational, sound decisions and obviously not in control of himself.

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Old 06-27-2007, 12:20 AM   #1107
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When I saw him on TV, he looked about 3 years old.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:30 AM   #1108
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I will say I'm glad Chris' other 2 kids weren't in the house at the time, cause god knows it could've been worse. Can't even imagine how his ex will explain their Dad and brother's death to them
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I am no Monk by any means, nor am I any kind of a Behavioral Psychologist, but I'm thinking that it's possible that this disease, and the stress coming from treating it, may have had alot to do with Benoit's state of mind.

I'm not excusing it or condoning it, but it is a possible explanation.
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I'm normally disgusted by jokes that mock the dead...but in Chris Benoit case's, I say make fun of him all you want.
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hey, where's CanadianCrippla at these days anyways? (CC). Oh right, he's Instant Classic
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From the good ol' c-fed forum. Enjoy

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Nancy: You like?

Little Naitch: Daddy like



Little Naitch: Hey, I heard you fuckin snitched on me. You told the cops that I killed The Pimp's dog

Nancy: No I didn't



Little Naitch: Yeah you did, snitch. And you know what I like to do to snitches?

Nancy: Don't shank me, please

Little Naitch: Don't worry toots. I forgot my knife.

Nancy: Phew

Little Naitch: Instead, I'm gonna do this.....



*FANS GO NUTS*



MadMan: Hey L, just wanted to ask you if you've seen my girlfriend, Nancy



Little Naitch: She's dead, yo



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(OOC: Sorry, I just had the urge to do it)
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:19 AM   #1113
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BENOIT!
BENOIT!

Benoit was a wrestler
I mean, he was a murderer wrestler
Or maybe he was just a murderer

But he was still BENOIT!
BENOIT!

Strangulating his lovely wife,
Smothering his kid
Texting off to poor Chavo
And hanging himself with a WEIGHT-ROOM WIRE!
WEIGHT-ROOM WIRE!

When all the cops are on the scene,
And everybody's dead
Only one guy will be hangin'.

My money's on BENOIT!
BENOIT!

And the Benoit hangs in the NIIIGHT...
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:05 AM   #1114
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Gonna have to say that it was very interesting going through the 16 pages of posts I missed since last night and seeing the range of emotions as well as the confusion over the facts and rumors.

It's hard for a lot of us to accept it, but it appears proven that Benoit murdered his family, then killed himself. We will never know why, and that will eat a lot of us up, because it's human nature to want to reveal the unknown. How could a seven year old have died by his own father's hand? It doesn't make sense. It never does. And yet, life is absolutely fucked up sometimes.

While I'm not going to instantly shun all of Benoit's 40 years of life, I can no longer look at him the same way, nor can I see his career in the same, formerly shining light. It's like OJ Simpson. How many people now look at him as one of the greatest wide receivers in football history, and how many people view him as a murderer who got away with it?

Reputation and character are always intertwined. And in the span of a nightmarish weekend, Benoit threw both away. Whether it was through immediate madness or the result of a gradual descent into delusion, the fact remains that he was obviously disturbed.

And as to why no one saw this coming... no one ever has the benefit of hindsight. That's why no one saw the VaTech killer coming. You can't just suspect everyone for the slightest little thing. So I wouldn't blame people for not seeing it until it's too late; that's human nature.

As for how the WWE is handling it now... I think this is the best they can do. Be serious and state the facts. Then take down anything that glorifies Benoit. Some might say that's too harsh, but that's the consequence. The WWE is handling this in the best way they can right now.
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It's like OJ Simpson. How many people now look at him as one of the greatest wide receivers in football history, and how many people view him as a murderer who got away with it?
Joe Montana was a quarterback, you idiot.
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Old 06-27-2007, 03:06 AM   #1117
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I'm a brit and luckily, we have CNN and Fox news over here. I heard about the press conference and switched on. My wife and I watched and it hit us hard. Throughout the whole thing, my eleven month old son was asleep in my arms.

I think that's when it dawned on me that it WAS Benoit that did it. When I was holding my little man and thinking that Daniel would never grow up, etc. I couldn't ever contemplate hurting my little boy, let alone entertain the thought of killing him. Benoit must have been pretty fucked up!!!
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Joe Montana was a quarterback, you idiot.
So yeah... I know you're just being you, but I can't find any way for that joke to make sense at all.
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Thoughts about the matter from the Sports Guy, Bill Simmons:
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=16362

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rob, nc: Any comment on the Benoit situation, is this the end of pro wrestling, it seems like it would be hard to watch again after this.

Bill Simmons: I am still gathering my thoughts, waiting for all the facts to come out. It just doesn't seem like any non-wrestling fan realizes how huge this story is to everyone who actually follows wrestling - in my opinion, it's the biggest sports story of the year even though wrestling technically isn't a sport. Benoit was one of the 12-15 greatest wrestlers of the past 30 years. For the wrestling world, it's like the OJ thing all over again - only its worse because his little son was involved. It might be the single worst sports story since the Rae Carruth thing.

Bill Simmons: The weird part was the WWE inexplicably running the 3-hour Benoit tribute on Raw last night - by the time it re-aired on the West Coast, reports were starting to come out that it was possibly a double murder-suicide... I don't know how they let that show continue to run. One of the weirdest TV moments ever. I was really creeped out.

Carl (Lansing, MI): How come people condem wresting becuase of this but not the football because of Rae Carruth? Is it becuase people are looking for a reason to bash it? I never really liked it a ton after college, but I never understood why people have so much HATE for it.

Bill Simmons: Well, the bigger issue here is that pro wrestling has suffered an abnormal number of early deaths - actually, abnormal might not even be the right word. it's almost an epidemic. There have probably been more wrestlers die before the age of 45 in the past 15 years than every sport combined. And you knew the tipping point was coming, eventually, and now it's here. I don't know if wrestling will survive this one.

Adam (NY): So what does WWE do from here? With the macmahon death awkwardness floating over their heads I think they're going to lose a huge portion of their audience. They have to, right?

Bill Simmons: Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I think this could be it - it's going to be the dominant story of the next 2 weeks and everyone is going to bring up the death stats and all the crazy incidents that have happened, I don't think the average person realizes what a damaging sport this has been (physically and psychologically) to the people who do it. Again, I think we've reached the tipping point. Sorry to be so somber, but the Benoit thing... i mean, it's hard to explain how big he was in wrestling circles.

Bill Simmons: All right, let's switch gears...
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I have so many things running through my head and I have no idea how to express any of it. Maybe I'll say something at a later date, maybe I won't. I don't know.
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