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Old 02-22-2016, 09:32 AM   #481
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My Honest Proclamation:


Starting with the WM main event, being a huge Triple H fan it was very awkward and derailing to witness nothing coming from him between the Rumble and Fastlane. You wear the belt, you defend the belt. Don't give me that heel bullshit strategy. The diehards are staring at that gap and already know he's just there to drop it to (now we know, Roman) whoever won the triple threat.


The New Day v.s. The League of Nations bit was total shit, made the PPV feel like RAW. Nothing should feel RAW, but alas they did it, they went there. They showed up with a Ferrari too in Mauro for the kickoff match, then the event started and we were greeted with Cole's face.


AJ Styles needs a bandana cause his face is showing that age. Chris Jericho continues to be entertaining in the fact of passively showing his frustration with being filtered.


The League of Nations is an example of something that looked good on paper and then you sleep with the concept and wake up the next morning wondering why your crotch is itchy and have to go through months of treatment until some of it goes away.


Naomi and Tamina are right where they need to be at, I understand their place. They can stay as long as they know their roles. Becky and Sasha confuse me with their banter due to the fact that they are friends(Horsewomen), but say they aren't.


The whole layout to PPVs are shit, everyone is getting fed up with it. One of the reasons I don't completely hate Triple H having the belt is for the work he oversees at NXT. The Takeover specials are just that, special. Minimal BS between the matches, lead ups and talent fighting to keep their spot or elevate to the main roster.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:42 AM   #482
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One last thing for a bit, I would like to pitch a match to have before we all filter into the stadium.


Brock Lesnar Guy v.s. Frank the Clown v.s. Heisenberg(Dallas Triple Threat Yapapi Strap Match)- winner gets to fart in the loser's face and deny them entry into WrestleMania
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:45 AM   #483
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IMO AJ and Y2J should not have been in a singles match together until the PPV.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:49 AM   #485
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"It doesn't matter since its on the network"

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Momentary fantasy booking that I'm sure has been written by fifteen of you:

Dean costs Roman the win at Fastlane. Brock goes on to face HHH at Mania (big match feels even though it's been done). Roman flirts with a heel turn against Dean for fucking up his life. Dean vs Roman in a No DQ grudge match at Mania. Roman goes full beast mode heel. Spend a few months building Bork as a face and Roman destroying Dean then BAM come summerslam super face Bork Lazer vs big bad bully Roman for the strap....thats like half a fucking year right there.....
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Old 02-22-2016, 10:20 AM   #487
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I have The Rock turning on Roman @ Mania, keeping the belt on HHH and having The Rock, Stone Cold and Undertaker on the corporate dime of Vince to prevent the current roster from advancing. The Attitude Guard can kidnap some NXT guys and have them do their dirty work in the ring or cast a spell on Lesnar and have him represent the group in combat.
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I like Ambrose, barring his current look he has all the 'tools' but whoever compared him to Steve Austin is delusional
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I know that certain aspects are going to be predictable in a scripted entertainment medium, but swerve it up now and again ffs. I fell asleep during Fastlane before the main event even started. At that, Ambrose stole the show and Lesnar is getting stale. I get that he is a beast and badass, etc. But he has relegated to suplexing, getting blown up and then.... yea.

Reigns is Reigns and just bores me to pieces. No interest in current Mania, and that is the first time in my life I have felt that. Cancelling the network for now, basically due to everything Vito Cruz said a few posts back.
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I like Ambrose, barring his current look he has all the 'tools' but whoever compared him to Steve Austin is delusional
Why? He is very comparable to Stone Cold. He's a blue collar guy that can connect with fans. He's crazy and has that don't give a shit mentality. I don't see how you don't compare him to Austin.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:23 AM   #491
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Pretty mundane PPV.

Triple threat wasn't really anything special. Like Drave said above, Lesnar's spiel is starting to wear a little thin.

Ziggler as always put on a tremendous performance with Owens, but as is always the case, it's like, why care? It's Dolph Ziggler, nothing will ever come out of anything he does and he'll always flounder in midcard purgatory.

Couldn't give two fucks about Kane or Big Show anymore. The way Big Show was celebrating the win after his match was kinda funny, in a "we won a match that nobody cares about, I've done this for 20 years earned millions of dollars why am I still here?" way.

Roman Reigns vs. Triple H... urgh.

Jericho/Styles was alright, I'm really not "getting" AJ in WWE right now. Thought he was great pretty much his whole time in TNA, especially around 2005/2006, just really not getting into him now.

I think this is it for me. I've touched upon this a lot over the last year or two, but I think it's finally hitting me. I've been a wrestling fan since 1993, possible '92, and it's kinda leaving a huge gaping hole in my life not following the product any more, but I think I'm well and truly done. Perhaps after Wrestlemania I'm gonna take some time away from wrestling and just see how it is after a few months.

Or until Cesaro returns.

Just really cannot enjoy the product any more.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:32 AM   #492
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Feeling the pain and sorrow in everyone's posts now, not even worth me heeling it up about how I'm drudging along. At least I can witness a WrestleMania live before we all shoot the company into space. If only the people behind Deadpool were wrestling writers
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Why? He is very comparable to Stone Cold. He's a blue collar guy that can connect with fans. He's crazy and has that don't give a shit mentality. I don't see how you don't compare him to Austin.
I take what was written to mean in terms of talent and potential, not that they have a vaguely similar gimmick
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Watching all the RAWs leading up to WrestleMania until then, I'm a WWE sheep,,,
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:43 AM   #495
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I like Ambrose, barring his current look he has all the 'tools' but whoever compared him to Steve Austin is delusional
I THINK the point they were trying to make was that he got ridiculously over when he came back as this crazy anti-Authority badass who wanted to kill Seth Rollins, so he could have been the best antihero type of character since Austin.

In terms of talent or whatever though then yeah I agree it's a bit of a far-fetched comparison. I mean I really like Ambrose and think he should be a huge deal but Austin was a once in a generation talent.
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Haven't read anything on Harper and his wrist, which I think is a good thing.
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For those unsatisfied with the current road to WM, what would your ideal card be with the current situation?

Say it was a pre-network, pre-stream era, what would have to be done to get you to make Mania a "must buy ppv"? Can it be salvaged or would it take some major creative re-writes to even consider it?
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First Injury Match: The Ryback vs. The Goldberg at Wrestlemania 32. First person to successfully injure your opponent wins.

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Old 02-22-2016, 01:11 PM   #499
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I don't find Brock stale at all. Thought he worked his fucking tail off in that match.

The finish was MEH. Just because Dean and Brock didn't win doesn't mean they need to be afterthoughts post match. It would make more sense for them to be pissed and there to be SOMETHING with them and Roman post match, instead of them disappearing for a heatless staredown between Roman and H.

IN SAYING THAT, it was a very fun match. The problem is, they are so inside the box that they could not figure out how to book that finish without enraging the crowd. It's so BLAH, "Okay Roman wins and then he stares at the Mania sign until HHH comes down and everyone will for some reason think this is a huge deal because BUSINESS"

Why not have a bit of an angle afterwards to make fans give the slightest fuck about the build?
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Why not have a bit of an angle afterwards to make fans give the slightest fuck about the build?
Didn't they do that around Rumble when Reigns beat the hell outta HHH at the end of some RAW? THAT is the one spark where Reigns seemed to "break out" and actually be someone rather than Weekly Reigns.

Also feel like they are going to have to do something pretty remarkable to get the universe behind Reigns in the build up to Mania. (In all thuthfullness, Mania sells itself on name alone, so everything I am saying won't matter anyway,,,,, carrying on)


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Traditionally, smark heavy, IWC loving crowds who will seemingly shit all over Reigns, maybe HHH and the main event as a whole but definitely Reigns.
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To all who are complaining about the outcome of the main event.....

Did you see the financials for WWE last quarter?
Have you looked at their ratings?

Making a profit and having a good product are two separate things.

And if they keep making money then great for them. That's why there are I business. But it's still a bad product.

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He was being sarcastic and summoning his inner "The CyNick" with that one.
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Old 02-22-2016, 02:25 PM   #507
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gotta have the biker/surfer, it's the only way, how many times do we have to remind everybody, dammit
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If it's not Biker Undertaker vs. Surfer Sting, the entire crowd should stand with their backs to the ring for the duration of the match.
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Watched bits and pieces. No idea why they had Ambrose hit Reigns with the chair repeatedly, they had the effect of an open hand slap. Weird finish, like almost Cena getting DDT on concrete worthy.
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It could be argued that Ambrose "lost it" and didn't realize that Reigns' suit would protect him from chair shots to the back.
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Good thing the "toughest guy" in the WWE wears all that armor.
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I can sort of see thr, but at the same time, the wwe is scripted and formulaic

We are 5 weeks out with no thing but one match, the biggest match, on the card that no one cares to see and a story we have seen over and over.

It's not hard for someone who has been watching for 20 years to look at the current roster, and the stories in place to figure out there isn't much we could enjoy coming down the road.

Look where we stand...teased Lesnar issues with a Wyatt family that just went down to big show and Kane and rybacl. They might have some injured members. There is no way in 5 weeks they can make me care about that.

If we are lucky they go Ambrose vs Lesnar which is suggested. That could be great, but where we stand now is Lesnar is dominate and a major face and Ambrose stands no chance and is the next biggest face in the company. The match would be epic but I don't see them booking it in a way we would jump for joy.

Undertaker is facing God knows who. Could be great, but unless they bring out a shocking name, who is going to care? This is his last ride, pun intended, so I don't see a big name putting him over, and we have 5 weeks of part time taker to set it up.

New day appears to be turning face and going after the league of nations. That alone makes the most entertaining part of the show boring,

They have a lot of potential in the mid card with aj, Owens, Ziegler etc but they will be thrown into a fun spot fest match that will be the best part of mania with no solid build up.

The divas could be the saving grace if we get a Becky, Sascha, Charlotte three way where they get time to bring down the roof.

Unless the WWe changes the way they have been doing things for years, on the 5 weeks before the biggest event in their history, then yeah, it's ok for us to bitch because we do know what's coming.

I'd be willing to bet I could write a card today that would be damn near what they put out.
On the bright side, you'll have 4 spare hours on a sunday that I'm sure you will use effectively.
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I don't find Brock stale at all. Thought he worked his fucking tail off in that match.

The finish was MEH. Just because Dean and Brock didn't win doesn't mean they need to be afterthoughts post match. It would make more sense for them to be pissed and there to be SOMETHING with them and Roman post match, instead of them disappearing for a heatless staredown between Roman and H.

IN SAYING THAT, it was a very fun match. The problem is, they are so inside the box that they could not figure out how to book that finish without enraging the crowd. It's so BLAH, "Okay Roman wins and then he stares at the Mania sign until HHH comes down and everyone will for some reason think this is a huge deal because BUSINESS"

Why not have a bit of an angle afterwards to make fans give the slightest fuck about the build?
You got a bunch of TV for crazy hijinx. The big news to end the night was we know the main event.

I love the storyline and execution. Another example of WWE telling a story for multiple months and paying off the story with its logical conclusion. HHH still has an aura about him. Thank God they didn't listen to the IWC and put Sting over HHH last year. A lot of people looking silly now. Roman now gets his big moment, and they've got the right guy in there to put him over properly.

Ambrose vs Lesnar should be a fun match as well.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:58 PM   #515
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I hope they go Lesnar vs Ambrose
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Feel like they're still gonna go Lesnar vs Wyatt. Lesnar just walking away like a bitch after they took him out at the rumble still needs a resolution. It was fucking bizarre.
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May have been the intention but they called an audible OR it was a sloppy rushed together loophole to explain Lesnar getting eliminated.
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So the Undertaker ends his career with a loss to Shane McMahon?
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