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View Poll Results: Ryback vs Brock- who would win in a clean WWE match?
Ryback 7 33.33%
Brock Lesnar 10 47.62%
Can't decide 4 19.05%
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:45 PM   #41
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In what way am I trying to compare Ryback and Brock Lesnar? By saying that a WrestleMania match between Lesnar and the guy Vince in grooming to be the next wrestling mega-star would be huge? Does the comparison fail simply because you don't like Ryback. So fuck the fact that audiences seem to dig the guy. You don't like him. BRING ON HUNICO VS. LESNAR!
You compared the two by suggesting that Lesnar would only go over if Ryback got his win back. You are suggesting that Ryback is in a position where he somehow ranks around Lesnar in terms of importance. You are comparing the worth of each to Vince McMahon.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:47 PM   #42
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You completely lost any grounds for your argument when you suggested that Hun-"The Greatest of All-Time"-ico sucks. Go back to whacking off to clunky, awkward Titus O'Neil promos.

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Old 11-10-2012, 09:48 PM   #43
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The most interesting thing about Lesnar vs. Ryback is that there are six letters in each of their names, so the WWE can use symmetrical block lettering to promote the match.

But Hunico has that as well. I say the WWE should go forward with that.
You really are so blind that you can't see where Ryback currently stands within the WWE. The man is about to main event his second straight PPV for the WWE Title. He's getting great reactions. Apparently the Hell in a Cell buyrate was "surprisingly strong" and I'm pretty sure it wasn't for Big Show-Sheamus.

But you don't like him. So fuck putting him in a huge match with the most over heel on the roster.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:49 PM   #44
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What our differences really come down to is that you think Ryback is the next mega-star. I don't.
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You compared the two by suggesting that Lesnar would only go over if Ryback got his win back. You are suggesting that Ryback is in a position where he somehow ranks around Lesnar in terms of importance. You are comparing the worth of each to Vince McMahon.
Lesnar is a part-timer. And he's not gonna be around as long as Ryback. Ryback is Vince McMahon's plan for the next Cena. Why the fuck would Vince not wanna put his full time future mega-star over the most intimidating guy he has access to and instantly make him a major star?
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Daniel Bryan challenged for the WWE Title at like a million PPVs.
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What our differences really come down to is that you think Ryback is the next mega-star. I don't.
It doesn't matter if you don't. It doesn't matter if I do. The company CLEARLY thinks he is and his reactions haven't exactly proven them wrong.
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Lesnar is a part-timer. And he's not gonna be around as long as Ryback. Ryback is Vince McMahon's plan for the next Cena. Why the fuck would Vince not wanna put his full time future mega-star over the most intimidating guy he has access to and instantly make him a major star?
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If Brock Lesnar agreed to sign on with the WWE full-time, they would put him over Ryback in a heart beat.
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Daniel Bryan challenged for the WWE Title at like a million PPVs.
How many times did he actually headline the show?
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It doesn't matter if you don't. It doesn't matter if I do. The company CLEARLY thinks he is and his reactions haven't exactly proven them wrong.
*cough* Ratings have.
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How many times did he actually headline the show?
How much would Ryback have headlined the show on a card featuring John Cena or BROCK FUCKING LESNAR!?!
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Even if Brock did sign on full-time, age is a factor and they need to put over a star and there is literally no one else on the roster they would rather have be that guy than Ryback.
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For the record, I don't give a shit about ratings, but Ryback hasn't exactly set the world on fire.
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*cough* Ratings have.


Okay, slik.
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How much would Ryback have headlined the show on a card featuring John Cena or BROCK FUCKING LESNAR!?!
Well, he is about to headline a PPV on a card featuring John Cena...
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So he must be the logical choice to face Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania. Yes, you are correct, sir.
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... You have to be trying to miss this many points.

The main point of saying Ryback is about to main event his second straight PPV was to combat this ridiculous "I don't like Ryback so Vince and the audience shouldn't either" attitude you seem to have. Then you tried to compare his main events with Daniel Bryan's "main events" which there is NO way you can possibly not see the glaring flaw in that one.

Now you're ignoring everything else and acting like I've said "Headlining a PPV with Cena is all it takes to make him a logical choice to face Lesnar at WrestleMania".

So I guess we're either back at square one or you need to re-read the last page or so to yourself until you understand what's being said.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:31 PM   #58
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WWE has a need to build stars... They have worked on building Ryback as a cash cow for months now and it is blatantly obvious that they want him to be the next mega-star... They have pushed him to the main event and it's going well... putting him against the 2nd or 3rd biggest star in the company at WrestleMania in a match that either one losing would be a ridiculously huge deal... HOW IS THIS A BAD IDEA OTHER THAN "'cuz I don't like him!"?!?!?!?!?
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This whole argument is pretty ridiculous right here.
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I honestly don't even know what's being argued anymore.
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I don't know, but clearly they should bring back Bobby Lashley for a Lashley/Lesnar match. Forget Ryback.
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I don't know, but clearly they should bring back Bobby Lashley for a Lashley/Ryback match. Forget Lesnar.
I'm for it.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:51 AM   #63
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Ryback. Lot of confused Lesnar voters here.
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Ryback is not going to be anything near as what Cena has become. They need to put their chips on more than just one person.
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For the record, I don't give a shit about ratings, but Ryback hasn't exactly set the world on fire.
When your champ is CM Punk, there's not exactly alot to work with there.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:28 AM   #66
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Ryback is not going to be anything near as what Cena has become. They need to put their chips on more than just one person.
The fact that they've even put their chips on one person finally is progress enough.

Now, push Johnny Curtis to the moon and NOW you're making some serious strides...
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Still don't see this "obviously he's the next mega-star" hype around Ryback. It seems like he was pushed into the main event to replace an injured John Cena, people were intrigued because it was something fresh, and now he's getting a chance to hang around there a bit longer.

Johnny Curtis would indeed be a better choice to face Lesnar at WrestleMania.
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No shit. That's like saying God himself would be a better choice to quarterback the New England Patriots than Tom Brady...
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I think the Lesnar/Ryback match would be Lesnar v Goldberg redux. No, not b/c of the similar looks, just the two BIG men, neither wanting to give an edge, and the match turn out shitty. Dunno how many times this needs to be said, but it would turn out to be quite shit, IMO... and I like both competitors.
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I think people are forgetting the fact that Goldberg was quite terrible and neither man seemed to give a fuck as they were both on their way out.

The entire feel and the effort put in would be completely different.
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I remember not caring for the Lesnar vs Goldberg match from the get-go because of the fact that the outcome was meaningless since they were both leaving and there would be no future implications and I didn't feel the "dream match" aspect that could redeem that meaninglessness.
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I think it will happen, for sure, especially before Lesnar's contract expires. I'm sure he was guaranteed at least 1 title shot, why not make it against the "unstoppable" Ryback?

Meh, if done right, it could be okay I suppose. I just have a bad taste left in my mouth after the aforementioned botchmania of a match. The entire match was a giant botch. Fuck, has there ever been another WM match where the LIVE crowd didn't care? If I recall, even the crowd was chanting "booooooorriiiinnnnnnnng" and the whole " na na na na, goodbye" bit.
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Brock locks in the Kimura. End of story.
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No shit. That's like saying God himself would be a better choice to quarterback the New England Patriots than Tom Brady...
Tom Brady isn't God himself?
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Who would win in a clean match between Ryback and Lesnar?


If you ask me, neither...
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You guys are all fucking stupid and know jack shit about wrestling. Get used to Ryback.
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I respect all of your opinions but feel that Ryback is the next big thing in the WWE on a fairly permanent basis*
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You should. Because he is.
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