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Old 09-09-2007, 02:30 PM   #321
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I'm pretty sure Brock was at 265 for his last fight
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Old 09-09-2007, 02:31 PM   #322
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Bisping needs to lose 20lbs though. 205 is too much for him against the top guys.
Yeh, I think he will be a better middleweight.
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I cant understand how Hamill/Bisbing was anyting other than 30-27 Hamill. MAYBE a 29-28 Hamill if you give him the 3rd. And that's being generous. Whatever.
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:35 PM   #324
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In the 2nd and 3rd, Hammill pretty much only did 2 takedowns with no follow up attacks. I thought he won but I could see why he lost a decision.
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It wasn't a robbery and I can kinda see why Bisping won, I was expecting him to take out Hammill because he kept putting his guard down.
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No, I'm saying the if is normal weigh is like 290, then he might lose strength etc losing that weight.. Chuck Liddell would be half the fighter he is if he lost 20 pounds to fight at 185..
Well, Thw bigger you are, the more water weight you retain. So a 300 lb guy no matter how much fat he has on could prolly lose a real big amount of water weight. Ive personally done 15 lbs in a week before. Now even if you look at him in the WWE he wasnt completely riped. He has it to lose as odd as that sounds.

Also it would probably benefit him to lose some muscle mass if he wants to be able to hang with strikers that have takedown defense. That muscle is great in terms of grappling but It will slow him down while throwing a punch.

Also it would again benefit him to lose some muscle mass because he will be in better shape. All that big muscle he has eats up his oxygen supply and will tire him out a lot if he is in a fight that goes the distance.
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Cro Cop looks very very one dimensional
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Cro Cop looks very very one dimensional
Yeh, he's gotten to where if he can't hit you with a big kick to the face, he can't beat you at anything else.
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:10 PM   #329
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Nah.. I think its more about him getting KOd a few times and not controlling like he use to..
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Was a cool card, I did only pick one fight though. I got the Marcus Davis by submission, almost shit myself though when he took that head kick and dropped. Great job by him though on recovering.

I also felt Hamill won the fight 29-28. I felt he won the first 2 rounds and then had a lack luster 3rd round (although to be fair, they both had a lack luster 3rd round). I was impressed by how he went out and stalked Bisping down and choose to stand with Bisping instead of relying on his wrestling. The biggest thing that showed though is that Bisping will not do well against the top 205 because he is to small for his division. He needs to make a move to middleweight quick. He has been talking about it a lot in recent interviews I have seen of him, so hopefully with this last fight it will be enough to push him to do that.

Quit hating on Mirko. The guy's career isnt "done". He had a bad fight and will continue to have bad fights as long as he stays in the heavyweight division in the UFC. 205 is calling that dudes name. I thought Randy was a small heavyweight at 228, and Mirko only ways 220. Cro Cop just got outclassed by a much bigger and equally experienced kickboxer in Kongo. He would tear ass through the 205lb division.

Rampage looked good, and definetly deserves the undisputed title. He controlled Henderson much better on the ground then I thought he would. Now maybe Henderson will stop trying to fight the bigger and stronger guys and concentrate on giving the UFC's 185 division some backbone.
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:56 PM   #331
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Yamasaki gave it to Bisping too.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:11 PM   #332
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The reason why i would have said draw is because, even though Hamill was taking him down basically whenever. He wasnt doing anything once he got him down. Infact Bisping's guard was rather impressive. He controlled Hamills hands and survived.

The way Bisping acted in the post fight press conferences was just stupid tho. He showed he's a true dick.
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The way Bisping acted in the post fight press conferences was just stupid tho. He showed he's a true dick.
True dat. He acted like he dominated that fight and he most certainly did not.
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The way Bisping acted in the post fight press conferences was just stupid tho. He showed he's a true dick.
I dunno. I know the guy who asked him the question (Oliver Copp) and he admits he did it to kinda get a reaction out of him. He also said he has spoken to him many times before and gets on well with Bisping. I think Bisping also took advantage of the bigger broadcasters not being there as well as Dana White.
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This last UFC show did a 3.1 in the ratings.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:29 AM   #336
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I thought it would do better. Seriously.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:38 AM   #337
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I was thinking, does anyone see MMA ever becoming an Olympic sport? It only seems logical. Other "combat sports" (using that term loosely) in Boxing and Wrestling are in the Olympics and with its popularity in Japan, Brazil and now state-side it only seems to be the logical progression.

Dunno, just thinking out loud.
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With all the media hype leading up to Rampage/Liddell I would've thought UFC'd be doing better..
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I was thinking, does anyone see MMA ever becoming an Olympic sport? It only seems logical. Other "combat sports" (using that term loosely) in Boxing and Wrestling are in the Olympics and with its popularity in Japan, Brazil and now state-side it only seems to be the logical progression.

Dunno, just thinking out loud.
I think it will eventually, it is a ways out from gaining enough global popularity though.
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I think BJJ would be an Olympic sport before MMA.
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how often do new sports get put into the olympics though?
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:44 PM   #343
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Not really on topic but WEC has been great lately.. I just wish they'd interview fighters and whatnot after matches so it'd be easier to "get to know" the fighters..
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I think BJJ would be an Olympic sport before MMA.
BJJ would be great at the Olympics.
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:38 PM   #345
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MMA won't ever be in the Olympics. It's too brutal a sport, for the demographic that market execs want to attract. Sucks, but thats how things are run these days.
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:56 PM   #346
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The Olympics are fucking crap anyway.
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:10 PM   #347
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MMA would make big ratings in the Olympics.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:15 PM   #348
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:10 PM   #349
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Cro Cop don't train hard enough. IF he wants to still be in the sport he needs to make a change. He has got to where he is becaue of his hard kick but he has nothing else. Maybe some loss in a row is good for him to make a change. Or he quits. Either way this Cro Cop is done bein sucessful
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I dunno if Cro Cop can fight in a cage. His best attacks were when he cornered guys in the ring and closed down the space and he can't do that in a cage. Also guys have seen what you can do if you can circle to his right side - limit his left kick attacks. His ground game is miles better than Kongo's and he didn't even try and use it his advantage.
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lol yah. And Quary looks like shit. I get the feeling he's gunna get knocked out soon.
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wait wtf just happend.
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Loving Chris Lebens fighting style right now. The heel kicks to the back of the thighs and the foot stomps against the fence. Awsome stuff.
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ROFL LEBEN. Dude was going down and still throwing punches and he knocked the guy out ROFL.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:29 PM   #356
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:31 PM   #357
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Leben and Martin both looked like they were in terrible shape. Leben is always in terrible shape though and looks like hes about to pass out half way through the fight. Gotta give him credit for having that explosiveness at the end though.
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I think Hughes is gonna swat Serra like a fly.
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I like Thomas and Florian okay. I kinda hope to see Din pick up the win tonight though. I'm curious to see what kind of shape he is in. If he loses tonight, he's probably about done.
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lol someone yelled " PUT'EM IN A BODY BAG !!!!"
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