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Old 11-27-2014, 04:17 AM   #1
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CM Punk On Art Of Wrestling
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*Punk made it clear that he's the happiest he's personally been in many years and that at times, he will come off bitter while discussing what happened, but it's "OK to be bitter" and that's part of going through the process of dealing with everything and that his appearance wasn't meant to be an attack on WWE, but a discussion of what his led to his departure.

*The most amazing thing to come out of the interview is that Punk didn't quit WWE after all - he was fired. While he left the company in January, he was told weeks later by Vince McMahon via text that he was suspended for two months. The next day, Vince told stockholders that Punk was on a "sabbatical." When the suspension ended, no one in WWE contacted Punk. When Punk finally reached out asking where royalties that were owed to him were, he got a run-around from WWE Execs until he received termination papers informing him he was in breach of contract on his wedding day. So, they technically fired him on his wedding day in June 2014, which Punk said was "going too f***ing far." Punk claimed the company tried to find him in "retro-breach" in June, instead of claiming he breached his deal back in January 2014 and he knew legally, that wouldn't stick.

*Punk said he left WWE the day after The Royal Rumble for one main reason: his health. During the podcast, Punk went into great, esquisite detail about the last several months in the company, which includes Punk being so injured that he's working with broken ribs (thanks to Ryback), a concussion (which he ignored after WWE medical asked him if he was OK to go on a European tour, so he toughed it out, which he noted was his own mistake) and injured knees. During the November tour, Punk was getting so sick that he was puking and dry heaving every night after wrestling, had a fever for months and had no appetite. WWE medical had given him so many antibiotics by that he pooped himself in the ring on Smackdown all while watching his checks shrink. Punk described it as the worst he ever felt in his life and being unable to sleep because he was so sick. This went all the way through the end of his WWE run.

*At the Royal Rumble, Punk suffered a concussion early on and still worked the entire match. The next day, he passed the company's concussion test (which he described as "bullsh**") while texting Colt Cabana and wearing headphones. WWE then told him he passed the test but they wanted him to go run the ring ropes to check him again. Punk said he felt like they wanted him to go run the ropes like some 2 week rookie in front of everyone and refused. At that point, Punk demanded they just decide he has a concussion and admitted that until then he was just trying to deny he was hurt and tough it out.

That same day, the company began pressuring him about signing visas for future tours and taking a drug test instead of listening to his requests to "f***ing help me" because something was obviously wrong with all the issues that had built up. Deciding he had enough, Punk said he decided to tell Vince McMahon and Triple H he was going home. Punk's version of this conversation is something to behold as he calmly tears into Triple H for cutting off his momentum in 2011 (Punk goes into great detail on issues with HHH), complains to Vince that he's stifled Punk's creativity and tells them both it's garbage they aren't considering Daniel Bryan for the main event of Wrestlemania 30, passing him by the way they've passed Punk by. He told them he was done and didn't want to do this anymore. Vince hugged him goodbye in tears and told him he was family, yet later suspended and fired Punk.

*Punk also told a story of going to WWE's doctor because he found a lump on his back during the same time period as the November 2013 European tour. The WWE Doctor, identified by Punk as Dr. Chris Amann, diagnosed it as a fatty deposit. Punk told several stories of asking for Amann to cut it out, but Amann says no because it wasn't hurting Punk. Punk explained that WWE docs cut things out of the wrestlers on a regular basis. Amann declined several times to remove it with Punk describing him as "lazy" in explicit, colorful terms. The day of the 2014 Rumble, Punk told Amann that it was now badly hurting and purple and bigger. Amann told him he couldn't do it then because Punk had to work the Rumble. After the Rumble, Punk demanded it be cut out right now and Amann noted that Punk would need to be on antibiotics, to which Punk responded that had been put on antibiotics WWE docs have given him for three months, which is why he pooped his pants.

*After leaving WWE and still not feeling any better weeks later, his wife AJ Lee convinced him go to her doctor. Her doctor (without knowing who Punk was or having any background information), immediately looked at the lump and diagnosed Punk with a MERSA staph infection. The doctor proceeded to squeeze the lump so hard the puss hit the ceiling. Punk said getting it cleaned out was the worst pain in his life and he needed specific medications for the infection, so none of the meds WWE had been giving him were any help. So, Punk had been wrestling the last few months of his WWE run with a staph infection in his back, which he stated was ignored and/or misdiagnosed by WWE's medical staff. When the doctor asked Punk how long he had the lump and Punk told him a few months, the doctor told him, "You should be dead."

*Punk talked about how badly hurt he was during his 2011-2014 WWE run and that on two occasions, he literally came out of surgery (and in one story, was walking out of the hospital following knee surgery) to find out he was being brought back almost immediately to TV with no time off. After elbow surgery, he was told he was being brought back to the road and TV to cut promos and after the knee surgery, was told he was being brought back in three weeks to work a TLC match against Ryback. Punk's version of these stories were enough to really make you shake your head and really need to be heard in his own voice.

*Punk described his wrestling career as a failure as he failed to get to the main event of Wrestlemania and that he's come to terms with that as he's moving on to the next stage of his life. He said that it was ridiculous that so many current roster members have not been in the Mania main event position. Punk talked about politicking to get to that level, but it was never about winning or being the guy. He said he needed to get there so he could learn to work at that level and get better, draw more and be an asset to the company. He said he would hear he wasn't a draw, but every chance he had, he "shoved it down their f***ing throats." He said that it all comes down to an "out of touch old man" (Vince McMahon) and his decisions.

*Punk said he knew he had the best match at Wrestlemania 29 and he was praised for it, but he knew he didn't get the money that John Cena, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Rock, and Triple H got for the show.

*Punk said that for anyone complaining he left WWE in a lurch, he didn't hold WWE up for money and didn't ask for anything and didn't walk out in the middle of a storyline. He was chokeslammed by Kane and he was gone. He went home for his health and sanity, although he did note he was frustrated with seeing smaller checks and not getting answers as to how the WWE Network will change the pay scale. Punk noted that everyone was afraid to ask Vince McMahon and even Randy Orton was coming to him asking if he knew anything.

*Punk said that when WWE fired him and issued him a contract breach, he hired a very "vicious" Los Angeles lawyer to go after WWE to fight the breach and in the end, he got a settlement that gave him everything he asked for "and more." He said he's just not allowed to talk about the settlement, but pretty much made it clear he got everything he wanted and noted it was stupid of WWE to even advertise him for the next WWE 2K15 videogame. He said he is completely done and clear of WWE and they will never, ever have a working relationship ever again.

*Punk said they were terrified that as an independent contract for the last ten years, that he would take them to court and ruin their way of doing business.

*When WWE later asked to issue a joint statement between the two, he told them to "F*** off."

*Punk talked in detail about WWE using the independent contractor status, noting the company does concussion testing to help themselves, not the wrestlers. He noted all the money the NFL Player's Union is forcing the NFL to pay for old injuries and medical concerns of players and that WWE is doing all this to prevent wrestlers from being able to say that they aren't. Punk said that if WWE truly cared for the talents, they would allow a union to be created for the talents.

*Punk also noted that he was to star in "12 Rounds 2" while he was WWE champion. When signing the paperwork, he noticed the filming dates were the same as a WWE European tour and Triple H. Triple H told him that was not the case but he will look into it. The next day, WWE announced Randy Orton would star in the move with HHH never calling Punk to inform him of the change because, as Punk said, "He thinks I'm a piece of sh**." Punk said it was indicative of the lack of respect he was shown by those in the company.

*Punk said wrestling Ryback took "20 years off his life" and talked in detail about how badly hurt he was working with, as Punk described him, "Steroid guy."

*WWE was afraid he was going to TNA, but his lawyer told WWE that he despises wrestling now and will never wrestle again.
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Old 11-27-2014, 04:25 AM   #2
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Old 11-27-2014, 07:26 AM   #3
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Old 11-27-2014, 07:37 AM   #4
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Holy nuts. I have seen Punk come off as dramatic before... but here that is not the case, if this is true, WWE won't like this interview one bit!
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Old 11-27-2014, 07:52 AM   #5
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so punk joins piper in wanting a union, i still see punk doing something with ether tna or gfw just to spite vince and hunter.
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Old 11-27-2014, 09:39 AM   #6
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listening to this atm, lol the Ryback bit
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Old 11-27-2014, 09:42 AM   #7
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Finally got this. Listened to it. Not surprised Punk comes off as a whiny kid.
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Old 11-27-2014, 09:52 AM   #8
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:14 AM   #9
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:38 AM   #10
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Man. Vince will be livid. Never say never but chances Punk ever comes back are slim. I only say slim because other guys most thought would never step foot in WWE ring again (Bret, Warrior, Bischoff, Hogan after WCW) came back.

I watched Punk close live at Rumble and thought something was off. This explains a lot.
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You love Punk? Are you on drugs or mentally retarded?
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:39 AM   #12
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:40 AM   #13
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From listening to this, it sounds like the doctor needs to lose his license. He let punk wrestle with numerous injuries/concussions that weren't healed. He even let an obvious staph infection go, and just prescribed him some generic antibiotics.

Even if the doctor has to listen to Vince/HHH about what to do, the medical community would not stand for that kind of crap.
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Old 11-27-2014, 10:45 AM   #14
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Finally got this. Listened to it. Not surprised Punk comes off as a whiny kid.
These are some pretty fucking legit complaints he's got here.
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Old 11-27-2014, 11:13 AM   #15
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was a good listen, thought Punk did a decent job
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Fuck this faggot. Punk ass crybaby bitch.
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Old 11-27-2014, 11:55 AM   #19
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:19 PM   #20
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I somehow knew that the concussion awareness was complete bullshit. They are there simply to avoid bad media coverage. The staph infection thing is pretty unforgivable also, I mean, people legitimately die from staph infections when they aren't treated.

The thing I found crazy is that over the years people in the business have cursed the dirtsheets to death for being muckrakers and for circulating untrue information but every single thing that Punk said about his time there/his heat there we already knew. Just none of it was confirmed. And I KNEW there had to be major heat between Punk and Trips for the Summer of Punk
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:20 PM   #21
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:31 PM   #22
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Punk isnt welcome in WWE anymore. Quite frankly they dont need him. Guys lije Bryan, Cena, Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose etc are better than Punk. And more mature than his gay ass. If I seen him,in real life Id beat his ass like I did Stone Cold
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:35 PM   #25
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Damn, has it dropped on the podcast feed on iTunes yet?
Yes, listened to it last night. Had to refresh a ton before it showed.
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:39 PM   #26
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The story of Punk getting poked in the eye during the Nexus angle then instructing Gallows to kill everybody made me laugh for like an hour.
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:49 PM   #27
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:51 PM   #28
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What a predictable Gertner response.
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Old 11-27-2014, 12:54 PM   #29
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If this is how WWE actually treats their employees (medically), this might spawn some pretty serious shit.

Well. Not employees, I guess. Independent contractors or whatever. So odd.
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Old 11-27-2014, 01:01 PM   #30
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Great listen. If nothing else I hope it puts the butt-hurt "he walked out on me" collective straight on why he went.
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Old 11-27-2014, 01:03 PM   #31
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Pretty damning on Doc Amman with the concussion and MSRA misdiagnosis
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Old 11-27-2014, 01:04 PM   #32
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I think Punk took the stuff with Ryback a little too personally. I don't think he'd have set out to purposefully injure Punk, I think he is legitimately that sloppy in the ring. Then again, I don't know anything. Maybe Reeves had some kind of issue with Punk.
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Old 11-27-2014, 01:12 PM   #33
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yeah pretty much. I think the only kind of "criticism" you can maybe level at Punk throughout is that he very much has a "the world is against me"/takes things personally kind of attitude (like I doubt Triple H gives a fuck either way really as opposed to "never liking him") but at the same time that's probably the biggest reason/driving force behind him getting to where he did and accomplishing what he did etc
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@XL. I got that impression too. It doen't seem like he did any of it on purpose. On the other side of the coin, a guy that big and that strong can't afford to be that sloppy and occasionally incompetent. He could really hurt somebody.
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Old 11-27-2014, 01:19 PM   #35
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Nothing will come of this, and WWE and Vince probably won't give a shit.
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Old 11-27-2014, 01:23 PM   #36
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Naw. Trips sounds like an asshole. Not just because of what Punk says but the stories of his dickery and self-serving behavior are fairly consistent throughout history. The stories are typically always the same. Trips plays the politic game to get what he wants at the expense of others and then when he is confronted about it, he acts like he doesn't know why the person is so angry. Bret has a story like that, the Outlaws told stories like that, Bubba has a similar story, Paul London, Ken Shamrock, Bischoff... The list is fairly long. Everybody knows about the Booker T debacle. Chyna was released a day after finding out Trips had been cheating on her with Steph for over a year. It is pretty consistent.
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So AJ is leaving, right? If not... awkward...
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So AJ is leaving, right? If not... awkward...
Was thinking the same. So weird if she sticks around. Watch her have a transexual gimmick next week or something for punishment.
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So AJ is leaving, right? If not... awkward...
You'd think he'd have her covered in his settlement if she's sticking around.
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Then again he might consider that private stuff and if he don't want to speak on it he won't.
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