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Old 12-15-2014, 06:33 PM   #1
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SPOILER - MASSIVE SPOILER FOR ROYAL RUMBLE
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- Some are saying that WWE has switched gears for WM31 and do not want Brock headlining the show since he will likely not resign after the event. The current plan is for John Cena to defeat Brock Lesnar at the Royal Rumble and go on to defend the WWE Title at WM31, most likely against Rusev or The Rock if he is available. There is some concern this might cause fans to perceive Cena beating Lesnar as Lesnar ending the streak was done to make John Cena look stronger. Time will tell. More on this story as it develops.

- Ryan Clark, tpww.net
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:40 PM   #2
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I don't think thats going to happen. Cena/Rock III is not a good idea.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:43 PM   #3
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Cena/Rock probably won't happen as they've said a bunch of times now that Rock is too busy.

I do hope Cena wins at the Rumble tbh.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:46 PM   #4
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Cena is the absolute last person who needs a rub from beating the guy who broke the Streak.

I see Rusev costing Cena his match against Lesnar. Basically a direct copy of how the Cena/Wyatt feud started last year but whatever.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:50 PM   #5
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There is some concern this might cause fans to perceive Cena beating Lesnar as Lesnar ending the streak was done to make John Cena look stronger.
Cena shrugging off the Summerslam beating and dominating the Night of Champs match already did enough to make him look stronger than Lesnar.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:04 PM   #6
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:24 PM   #7
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He got it from Figure Four Weekly today. So eh, it has some credence.

I would buy Cena/Reigns as the WM Main Event, that would probably get pretty heated and would be a good match. Not saying Cena would turn heel but he would be cast that way by the majority of The WWE Universe.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:35 PM   #8
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No fucking thanks. It was refreshing seeing him outside the main event last year. Not to mention, what's the point of Brock being billed as this special attraction if he's gonna be Cena fodder before Mania?
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:39 PM   #9
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I say it is too late to change course now on Brock going into Mania as the champion.... Cena should not be the one to get that "rub" from beating Lesnar.
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There's pretty much nobody right now they can put in there with Brock or Cena that would make a Wrestlemania headline I'd be interested in. Nobody is built enough or carrying enough momentum to seem like a big deal.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:41 PM   #11
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That said, I really really don't want to see Brock / Cena again.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:02 PM   #12
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Eh. I'm kinda feeling the same way. Though ff built correctly, I wouldn't mind a Cena-Wyatt rematch. But... I don't know. It would be better if Wyatt had beaten Cena last year and now he's coming for the title this year.
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Feel like they missed the boat on putting the strap on Wyatt. Had he been booked like a force,going over Cena, having him take the vacant belt, and run to Mania with it would have been an ideal situation as opposed to rebooting him as a solo act.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:52 PM   #14
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Reigns wins rumble, beats Lesnar when cena never could, gets huge rUb and is the new face of the wwe...cena heel turn to feud through year with reigns, more money made than be counted
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You want Rusev to be a big deal? Ragdolling Brock for the title would shoot him to the moon.
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:23 AM   #18
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Reported by this mistress Ryan Clerk. Anyway Brock Needs to beat up CM Punk in UFC. Have Brock cut weight to like 180 or 170 and have Punks debut and Brocks return there first match.
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This is how it will go down:

- Cena will look set to beat Lesnar
- just as he's putting Lesnar in the AA Rollins comes out and hits Cena with the briefcase
- Lesnar gets the win. Thinking that Rollins is returning Lesnar the favour from Raw last night they shake hands.
- Rollins then hits Lesnar with the brief case, cashes in and wins the title.
- Roman Reigns wins the RR setting up Reigns v Rollins at WM 31.
- Lesnar will most likely face Taker again imo if Taker is fit.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:56 AM   #20
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There's pretty much nobody right now they can put in there with Brock or Cena that would make a Wrestlemania headline I'd be interested in. Nobody is built enough or carrying enough momentum to seem like a big deal.
I'd really like to see Rusev beat Brock at Mania.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:15 AM   #21
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This is how it will go down:

- Cena will look set to beat Lesnar
- just as he's putting Lesnar in the AA Rollins comes out and hits Cena with the briefcase
- Lesnar gets the win. Thinking that Rollins is returning Lesnar the favour from Raw last night they shake hands.
- Rollins then hits Lesnar with the brief case, cashes in and wins the title.
- Roman Reigns wins the RR setting up Reigns v Rollins at WM 31.
- Lesnar will most likely face Taker again imo if Taker is fit.

Lesnar losing getting hit with a briefcase? That's retarded. Maybe have Cena give Lesnar a tough fight then Lesnar wins and Rollins hits him with the briefcase after Lesnar went through a tough match.
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I'd really like to see Rusev beat Brock at Mania.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:01 AM   #23
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Lesnar losing getting hit with a briefcase? That's retarded. Maybe have Cena give Lesnar a tough fight then Lesnar wins and Rollins hits him with the briefcase after Lesnar went through a tough match.
That's dumb fuck off.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:40 PM   #24
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Pretty much what Francise said, but with Clerks added suggestion, and somehow Dean Ambrose thrown in as well. May as well make the main event a Shield triple threat. I think all three guys can do it, and it'll be something fresh.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:43 PM   #25
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Plus, you could still get that Lesnar attraction match with Orton, or Bryan, or Ryback, or with Cena if they really must. But seeing as it's not the main event (hopefully) or a title match I'm not too worried if it's just a special attraction.
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Plus, you could still get that Lesnar attraction match with Orton, or Bryan, or Ryback, or with Cena if they really must. But seeing as it's not the main event (hopefully) or a title match I'm not too worried if it's just a special attraction.
A Shield triple threat could work.

However I'm an advocate of the WM title match always being one-on-one and given Rollins with his briefcase and Reigns hopefully winning the RR to make up for the fact WWE botched it up allowing Batista to win, I think we will have Reigns v Rollins.

I would like to think Taker will come back and avenge the loss to Lesnar however seeing a recent picture of the man, Undertaker looks more likely to be fighting arthritis.

I still think Triple H v Sting will (and should) close the show and all very much depends on the storyline going in and what's at stake. Of course I'm slightly biased but at the same time it's history in the making; WCW's biggest star, the man who was adamant he'd never work for WWE, making his wrestling debut in a WWE ring at WWE's flagship PPV. I can't think of a better way to end the night than by seeing Sting's arm raised in victory.


But wrt to Cena v Lesnar and the briefcase bit, I'm fed up of seeing Lesnar completely thrash Cena all the time....tbh....I'm fed up of Cena v Lesnar for like the millionth time. I just want them to get the belt off Lesnar and put it on Rollins or Reigns and inject some new life into that belt.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:05 PM   #27
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If Brock is losing the title at Rumble it will be to Rollins, not Cena.
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If Brock is losing the title at Rumble it will be to Rollins, not Cena.
Like I said Mr MITB has to cash in sooner or later and what better way to kickstart 2015 (well a few weeks later) and the road to WM than by having Rollins hold the belt?

We don't need Cena to be 16 times champion.....well that may happen down the line but please not now.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:50 PM   #29
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I'd really like to see Rusev beat Brock at Mania.
I just can't get into Rusev, maybe its the whole generic anti-US gimmick or the undefeated streak, or a combination of the two but I just really don't care about anything he does. He's not even bad or anything, he's just unappealing. Still more interesting than Reigns though.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:09 PM   #30
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I agree with the Anti-US thing and I think they should drop that after he defeats "the american hero" John Cena.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:29 PM   #31
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Dunno how I feel about any of this.

I didn't want to see Lesnar-Reigns as an easily telegraphed title match - even more so with Lesnar leaving; it's like WM20 all over again.

Perhaps Cena-Reigns would work better; Face vs. Face, a true passing of the torch so to speak. That'd mean Cena beating Lesnar at Rumble (for #16, which is fine by me) and a bunch of people moaning that they syphoned off the heat of beating The Streak to Cena. Would beating the guy (Cena) who beat the guy (Lesnar) who beat The Streak mean as much? Dunno.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:41 PM   #32
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Dunno how I feel about any of this.

I didn't want to see Lesnar-Reigns as an easily telegraphed title match - even more so with Lesnar leaving; it's like WM20 all over again.

Perhaps Cena-Reigns would work better; Face vs. Face, a true passing of the torch so to speak. That'd mean Cena beating Lesnar at Rumble (for #16, which is fine by me) and a bunch of people moaning that they syphoned off the heat of beating The Streak to Cena. Would beating the guy (Cena) who beat the guy (Lesnar) who beat The Streak mean as much? Dunno.
They'd likely turn Reigns heel (for no reason) than have a Cena-Reigns face vs. face match.
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Cena beating Lesnar doesn't do anything for Cena, also we already saw this match 4 (or 5) times on PPV there is no interest for me to see this again, I'd rather see Orton, Jericho, Sheamus, Rusev, Ziggler, Daniel, almost anyone one else face Lesnar.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:49 PM   #34
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Rollins has to figure in somewhere, does he not? I think with the strength of other possible matches on the card, you could easily go with a Shield Triple Threat for the title. Have Rollins use the case at the Rumble, Ambrose win the Rumble, and Reigns beat Rollins earlier in the night so he can argue he has a claim to the title.

So you could potentially have

Reigns vs Rollins vs Ambrose - WWE Title

HHH vs Sting

Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt

Lesnar vs Rusev/Ryback

Cena vs Sheamus (as a heel)

Ziggler vs Jericho - IC title

Tag Team Turmoil - Usos vs Brotherhood vs New Day vs The Ascension

Andre the Giant Battle Royal


I would be totally in favour of a card like that. It could be the last year you have guys like Sting and Taker to help the card, so it should be used to put younger guys in top spots.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:55 PM   #35
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I could get behind a Shield Triple Threat match.... even if it means that Lesnar ending the streak was pretty much pointless.

I'd say before that could happen, though, they would need to really work to make Dean Ambrose look stronger.
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They have only booked 3 full-time people to look strong throughout this entire year:
Cena, Reigns, Rusev
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I guess Rollins too.
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Honestly wish Undertaker, Triple H, Lesnar, Rock and any other part-timers would just fuck off now and let the current roster shine. No disrespect to any of them, but they've had PLENTY of Wrestlemania moments, and every year it just seems like such a mess to make sure these particular people, along with guys like Cena, Orton etc, have 90% of the card built around them.

I've been saying this for the last few years now. I'm happy with one, maybe two attraction matches per year, in this case I think Sting and Triple H should more than do the job. The rest of the card could very easily be filled, properly, by todays roster.

I mean seriously, how many more times do guys like Ziggler and Cesaro, along with others, have to get themselves over, only to be thrown into some generic battle royal/ten-man tag match. Let these guys take the spotlight. They deserve it, and with the right matches, they could all put on one hell of a show. If ever there was a night where "the world is watching", Wrestlemania is it. Show the world what the WWE roster can do! Not a bunch of old guys past their prime. Yeah, sure, they're draws. And as I've said props and respect to all of them, but seriously, people know what Wrestlemania is about and will either watch/buy/stream it or they won't, based on it's own history.

If, on the off-chance people do actually tune in specifically to see guys like Undertaker, Triple H etc, then it's no wonder they tune out and don't bother watching Raw or Smackdown.

a Shield triple threat for the title in THE MAIN EVENT would be a great way to kick start this and showcase the current roster today. Might even solidify them as bigger stars.
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Honestly wish Undertaker, Triple H, Lesnar, Rock and any other part-timers would just fuck off now and let the current roster shine. No disrespect to any of them, but they've had PLENTY of Wrestlemania moments, and every year it just seems like such a mess to make sure these particular people, along with guys like Cena, Orton etc, have 90% of the card built around them.

I've been saying this for the last few years now. I'm happy with one, maybe two attraction matches per year, in this case I think Sting and Triple H should more than do the job. The rest of the card could very easily be filled, properly, by todays roster.

I mean seriously, how many more times do guys like Ziggler and Cesaro, along with others, have to get themselves over, only to be thrown into some generic battle royal/ten-man tag match. Let these guys take the spotlight. They deserve it, and with the right matches, they could all put on one hell of a show.
I felt the plan with Lesnar SHOULD HAVE been taking the title off Cena at Summer Slam then quickly losing it to a guy who needed the rub 1 or 2 PPVs after.
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I felt the plan with Lesnar SHOULD HAVE been taking the title off Cena at Summer Slam then quickly losing it to a guy who needed the rub 1 or 2 PPVs after.
I would agree....if he didn't beat the streak. I think they are subconciously trying to protect Taker from having his image further tarnished.
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