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Old 05-28-2007, 07:50 AM   #561
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I'm sure I read that the flash forward was to present day, so 2007. Depends when they got off the island I guess.

They crashed on September 22nd 2004 and have been there for 3 months or so. If Kate is pregnant now and the flashforward is based in 2007 that leaves a gap of about 2 and a half years. Plenty of time for a baby to have been born and to be aware of it's surrundings (i.e. to miss it's mother).

I'm not completely convinced she was talking bout a son though.
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Old 05-28-2007, 02:16 PM   #562
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It is possible she is pregnant in the timeline of when they were about to get rescued since she and Sawyer fucked, mens sperm is like 500% or something increased and yeah, its possible.

Or I read it wrong and you are suggesting Kate is going to or has played a son, which by the laws of nature can't really be possible unless they throw in a stupid transsexual storyline.

I would just like to point out I have now seen the finale and will report back soon with my thoughts. Fucking loved it though.
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:54 PM   #564
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i'm thinking season 4 starts with desmond looking off camera, and he's just had one of his future visions - what we saw - and so events go from that.

There's no way they'd show a fixed ending at the half way point. Not that it matters, most of us will forget this scene by series 5!

I thought the coffin would be for julliet, since jack was really upset and he only cared for her and kate... till i saw the newspaper clipping - has to be locke, since he'd drop his father's surname now he's dead, and the show bosses seem to be building him up, especially since he can hear jacob

Since most of the other's shooters are dead, naomi's people must be the new bad guys

The black mist that killed eko and brought down the plain, i think that's jacob
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Or I read it wrong and you are suggesting Kate is going to or has played a son, which by the laws of nature can't really be possible unless they throw in a stupid transsexual storyline
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Kate as a son?

Are these comments in relation to what I posted? Cos if they are i don't understand. If they're not, then it makes sense that I don't understand.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:06 PM   #567
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Funeral will be for Ben or Jacob. Purely basing this on when Jack was asked if he was a friend or family of the person in the coffin and he said "neither".

Think the line about bringing his dad back to see if Jack if more drunk than he is was just a line to confuse people into thinking he might still be alive. Jack was probably just saying it because he knows they can't bring back someone from the dead.
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Although thinking back to the coffin being empty when Jack landed on the island, did they ever find his Dad's body?

Because I just have this feeling his Dad could be one of the guys behind Dharma along with Penny's dad etc.
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Old 05-29-2007, 02:25 PM   #569
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Because I just have this feeling his Dad could be one of the guys behind Dharma along with Penny's dad etc.
WOW did you come up with that all alone or did you just re-phrase something everyone has said at one point for like ages?

Mr. Widmore is already known to be linked to DHARMA since on TLE and other associated links, his company, Widmore Industries along with Paik Industries are known contributors.

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Im posting it later tonight, so if you don't wanna read it, then, I guess, er, don't?
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:07 AM   #570
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lol you guys.

I tell you what Kano, when you post this thing later it had better not have ideas or theories that I've read anywhere before or you'll be a big bloody hypocrite!!
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:30 PM   #572
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Yeah sorry had a bit of a crisis last night. TONIGHT my thoughts...

And with regard to what I said, there is aline between shared theories, and then blindingly obvious links that can be made. The previous post is a case in point.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:51 PM   #573
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Well as I said, as long as there are no crossover theories in your thoughts it'll be OK!
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This finale blew my mind. Into little pieces. Now I'm messed up.

Thing is in 8 months I might not care so much. :meh:
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BTW for all the people who keep laughing about Mikhail always getting his shit kicked in etc. etc. You do realise that he (similar to Richard who doesn't age) cannot die?
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For whoever it was earlier that said they thought they had read the flashforward was present day, it was 5th April 2007

Anyways, I was on Wikipedia the other day and noticed that on Harold Perrineau's page, it has 'Lost 2004-2006, 2008'. And I also just saw a video where the 'Hot Scoop' was that he's been offered a return as a series regular. Should be good stuff.
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Doesn't mean it isn't funny...
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The newspaper Jack was reading on the plane. It was the LA Times from 5th April.
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Yeah, it was me that said the FlashForward was to present day, mainly cos I read the date somewhere.

Although I don't recall the date on the paper ever being seen though.

What happened to Kano's thoughts?
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Its here.


OK here are my thoughts on the episode and anything else…

First thing I wanna talk about is Locke. Jesus. Well the whole ‘he’s missing a kidney’ thing didn’t happen like I thought but then again it could turn out like that in the end, that he didn’t die cus the bullet didn’t have anything to hit….but whatever. I liked the fact he played a part in the end but it also shoots down a couple of things I thought, one of which was that I had this idea about the ‘good’ in people. I had this idea that only ‘innocents’ can see the Island/Jacob/real answers that’s why they abducted kids, because they are (mostly) innocent and the Others would use them to communicate with Jacob/The Island. But he killed Naomi.

I just don’t get why he gave up so easily with Jack…he could’ve shot the radio phone or whatever but no, he just walked off with too much ease when like Ben, he knows what will happen if the Island is found. John has this communion with the Island….Boone…Walt…Dreams…Signs….its been guiding him to do thing etc but the thing I don’t get is that he has been leading a trail of destruction in his path….destroying the Swan (which ceased their communication with the outside world)….he blew up the Flame (which warned the Hanso/Dharma group that an incursion by the hostiles was present on the island) which is the main thing that has lead to the arrival of whoever it is in the final. They find out comms are down, and then an incursion has happened, they are going to send people to the Island, yet not at any point has the Island addressed this or suggested its going to call for action. Which I think means that the arrival of these people is meant to happen for something else to happen….but what?



How easily could’ve he climbed out of the window after the water had filled the room? Or when he shut the door simply move to the other side where Desmond was standing? I tell this to people then they say ‘yeah but he wanted the premonition of rescue to be true’. But the fact is when he found out Naomi’s story was bogus, he should’ve known something was up, or just because he sees Claire getting into a helicopter, that doesn’t necessarily mean rescue. Hope Mikhail survives he is awesome. Anyway, RIP Charlie you freakin' idiot.


I have been thinking about when Ben said back at the season two finale ‘were the good guys’ and that now its eventually going to turn out that way. And its pretty conclusive now that whatever is coming to the Island, its not going to be good. But again, if it were all so bad and lead to ‘the end’, why didn’t he take the rest of his group? Or some kind of help? He just sent them to the temple which is gonna be interesting to finally see. Maybe shed more light on the 4-toed statue.

Obviously ‘the snake in the mailbox’ was the flashforward. Quite a lot of questions, mainly for me: who and how get off the island?, whats going on in that present time for people still on the island and people who got off? Who was in the casket?….the funeral director asked if he was friend or family, Jack said either – my first guess was Claire as he was both to her, but then we don’t know if he finds that out….and kate was like ‘why would I’, not something I could imagine her ever saying with regard to Claire. And who is HE? Who she has to get back to? Everyone is thinking Sawyer but that’s too easy. Maybe her son, but I dunno, I think its gonna be either a new character. The whole flash forward thing though….I actually get a headache thinking about it….could be an alternate timeline choice…..a Desmond vision….anything. But I do like the fact that Jack finally has that opinion about the Island, that what Locke once told him has finally come to pass.

So yeah….now just gotta wait 9 months. Great.
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I actually thought he said "neither" when asked friend or family.
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So do a lot of people but I watched the repeat last night and turned the volume up to see and I am 95% convinced it was either. But it would make more sense that he said neither in terms of how he woulda phrased it. Either way (no pun intended), it doesnt really matter at this point.

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From ComicCon regarding season 4 and more (From Blogspot)

Comic-Con 2007 - Spoiler Summary

Thanks to all our bloggers who attended last nights Lost Panel at Comic-Con and who bought us all the live updates. I will try to make a summary of all the spoilers from last night.

- Event starts off with a clip with Michael Emerson calling the Others a "Rebel Sect"
- Also on the clip show "By the time you see this I will be dead," says M.C. Gainey).
- Voice-over: "The survival of the Island is now at stake."
- Footage of the Lost game is shown (You can see this in the DarkUFO Home page)
- Carlton says Rachel probably won't be on the Island.
- Damon says the benefits of only doing 16 episodes (versus 22) a year is they can do more ancillary "awesome" stuff.
- Damon and Carlton say don't get too attached to Richard Alpert, because Nestor Carbonell's on CBS' Cane.
- They're writing episode one, but it's still untitled
Shooting starts in four weeks.


Q&A Section

Q) Wants to know about season three's violent turn and that the powers that be to promise that the Others aren't the good guys.
No promises are forthcoming.

Carlton says they wanted a showdown, and that involved a body count.
Damon says our guys are more violent but prettier. "When Sawyer is punching you in the face, you're like, More please, you're so attractive, can you take your shirt off please?" But when Friendly does it, it's relentless violence. Says Damon, "If the violence stays intense, it will at least be perpetrated by catastrophically good-looking people."

Q) Where's Michael?
They announce here that Harold is returning as Michael Dawson, but they tell the questioner they're not talking about how or when he returns.

Q) Re: Flashbacks
Carlton says flashbacks and flashforwards are both on the show going forward. "How far forward" and "with whom" are the Q's.

Q) Will Jack and Claire find out they are related?
Carlton rings the bell on Damon, but Damon nods furiously. The crowd goes wild.

Q) Did Ben get caught by Rousseau on purpose? Did Ben kill the real Henry Gale?
Damon says he will answer one of those questions. The asker chooses the capture question. Carlton: "He got caught by accident." Damon volunteers this, regarding Ben vs. Henry Gale: "They had words."

Flashbacks/Flashforwards
They were running out of plausible flashback material, so it was time to switch gears into flashfowards. The end date allowed them the certainty necessary to add that element into the show without further antagonizing fans. Carlton: "What you saw with Kate and Jack was not the end of the show." Damon: "The show has never really been about getting off the Island...There's this whole chapter of the story that takes place off the Island." Outstanding!

Michael
Carlton, regarding poor crazy Michael, "He took some extreme actions." Michael's story is about the power of the Island to be redemptive. And this won't be a quick pop by Redemption Island; Harold is a series regular. Michael returns early in the fourth season, or so says Damon.

Q) "What questions are fans not asking that we ought to be?"
Carlton: "Who's in the coffin?" and rings the bell on himself. D.L. and C.C. ask Harold, "Who do you think is in the coffin?" Harold thinks it's the person with the teenage son...probably Locke! Damon would ask, "Who's on that freighter out there, and what do they want out of the Island?" Carlton would ask, "Okay, Kate and Jack got off the Island? Did anybody else get off the Island?"

Q) Will we get back to Libby and was she part of Dharma
Carlton: "It is our intention to get to Libby's story this year, and we think you will be happy when we finish that." Damon: "You're not barking up the wrong tree."

Q_ Will there be a Danielle flashback soon?
Damon: "There are important things going on in that story, and they have to sync up." They'll do that syncing in this season or next.

Q) A fan named Aaron asks, "Can I call the monster Cerberus?"
Damon says...On the blast-door map, C.V. stood for Cerberus Vents. "That's Dharma's name for it, maybe. Cerberus is one of it's names." Damon: "Aaron, may I call you Cerberus?" Aaron-Cerberus: The monster seems kind of seems like it represents judgment. Why did Eko have to die? Damon: The whole deal with the monster will be definitely answered. Carlton: The monster answer is "not going to be 10 seconds of blank tape."

Dharma Film
The Comic-Con exclusive clip was "discovered" in "Narvik, Norway."

The promised clip is one of the station orientation films, hosted by Marvin Candle under an alias. The footage begins with him getting his makeup done and smoothing down his Dharma labcoat. Bunnies! It's about bunnies! Bunny #15, to be specific. Marvin, who calls himself Dr. Edgar Halifax in this film, identifies it as station six, the Orchid. He says the viewer has probably realized by now that he or she is not working at a mere botanical research unit. He apologizes for making him or her lie to friends and family members about the nature of the work. He mentions something that sounds like "Kasimir effect" and mentions the "unique properties of the Island." Then there's one of Jacob's subliminal messages. It may have been some variation on "as Jacob loves you." Then there's a bunny riot. One of the station's alarms blares, Dr. Halifax/Marvin panics. There's an intercut clip of someone riding a bicycle. The clip is inserted upside-down, and the rider appears to be in the village green of Otherville...And then, amid the chaos (perhaps this is the Incident?), the filmstrip slides off the reel.

And you can watch said video here
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All the rest of you fans catch the previews for season 4 showing on ABC? Sucks that it's only going to be 8 episodes but I can't wait.

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8 Eps?

Does that mean the entire season is 8 episodes? Or that they only have material for 8 episodes?

I can't use youtube at work, sorry
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They only have material for 8 of the planned 16. Unless the strike ends, S5 will be 24 eps, S6 will be 16.
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Btw I just read this whole thread and I realized how great it was to not have the internet for 8 months. Made me totally enjoy that last half of the season on a viewer level. Like I guess once it starts back up I'll go ahead and look at the anagrams and the "OMG DID YOU SEE WHO WAS IN THE PICTURES?" and what have yous and that will be neat and all but I won't get too caught up in it anymore.

But I still wish the pregnant girl Jack's dad killed while operating on was Jack's wife.
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